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Myostatin inhibitors

RickyBlobby

RickyBlobby

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Anyone know if there is a more effective myostatin inhibitor than (-)-epicatechin?
 
Im planning on running vaso 6 @ 300 mg twice per day stacked with turkesterone for a bridge between cycles.
 
Never come across vaso 6 on any research website...
 
ANyone know how long it takes myostatin to normalize after a cycle?
 
Epicat and vaso 6 are both derived from green tea extract. Im not positive if vaso 6 is 5 times better at myostatin inhibitor but is supposed to be 5 times stronger NO production. Research chemical wise they sell follistatin injectable.
 
I know YK11 is known to cause injuries due to torn ligaments. And anavar is known to improve ligament strength. Was considering running them together, anyone see any issues with that?
 
I noticed some creaky joints with yk11 but some low dose TD trest and it went away quick. Yk11 definitely seemed to have AI properties. I think anavar would make a nice addition. Not sure about the dosing for ligament strength though
 
Thinking 10-20mg YK with 50 anavar
 
My experience so far with 10 mg/d yk11 has been overall good. Losing fat and retaining muscle in small caloric deficit. Personally it's a little hard to describe sides as it feels dry in regards to joints but not dry in regards to a very small amount of bloat. Nothing I couldn't tweak with diet however. I'm happy with results so far. Definitely helping me lean out while keeping muscles full. Thinking about upping dose but don't want to mess with a good thing
 
adammorrow36 said:
I was running 16mg of yk with 600 mg test 800 nandrolone 75 dbol and it crashed my estrogen stoped last thursday and still havent needed to dose an ai yet
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Guess I'm glad I've stayed at 10mg. Wow. Makes me wonder if I could go down to 7.5mg/d and still see results.
 
Karlrobert said:
Guess I'm glad I've stayed at 10mg. Wow. Makes me wonder if I could go down to 7.5mg/d and still see results.
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Probably i never meant to use it as an ai but when i realized it after tak8ng it i thoughtbit was great but way tomuch so ill proly start back at 4 ng a day and see how that works
 
I ran yk about a year ago on a recomp with osta, 4 andro and ignite. Recovery between sets was the best I ever experienced. Def want to use yk on a bulk tho.

Dry compound and the only side effect I had from yk was really dry eyelids. Weird.
 
RickyBlobby said:
I know YK11 is known to cause injuries due to torn ligaments. And anavar is known to improve ligament strength. Was considering running them together, anyone see any issues with that?
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Is the reason YK can cause injuries is because it takes your body’s natural boundaries off that limit muscle size, thus users muscles grow so fast so they tear ligaments? (Just learning about myoststin inhibitors)
 
dvw said:
I think its progesterone not dht derivative. Progesterone is anti estrogen
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I believe that dvw is correct. That might explain the dry joints but very mild bloat I've felt. No gyno type symptoms for me for what that's worth. I've never been prone however
 
ive been using follidrone during my cycles. im thinking you just want to keep it slighty below what the cycle causes myostatin to do.
so killing it isn't necessary.
 
I know follastatin is king but I heard its very hard to find someone who has legit ****
 
adammorrow36 said:
Idk but in a week or so im throwing in some bear strength wich is mentabolin I've heard its prety wet so we will see
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Is the mentobolin is not exactly same as trestolone acetate? Im still confused if there different or same compound
 
Yeah Im confused if it's same compound. Guy said he blew up on only 30 mg of bear strength. Olympus tr3st oral capsules less than 75 mg was pretty underwhelming.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
ive been using follidrone during my cycles. im thinking you just want to keep it slighty below what the cycle causes myostatin to do.
so killing it isn't necessary.
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Is this the same “Folidrone” by Black Lion Research? This natty supp actually works? (Never tried it, but if that is what you are referring to I may have to give it a try on a bulk cycle with the andros).
 
dvw said:
Yeah Im confused if it's same compound. Guy said he blew up on only 30 mg of bear strength. Olympus tr3st oral capsules less than 75 mg was pretty underwhelming.
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My understanding is that ment is the prohormone to trest but active on its own as well. Supposed to be great pwo. I've had some great workouts with oral trest acetate as well
 
JoePaul39 said:
Is this the same “Folidrone” by Black Lion Research? This natty supp actually works? (Never tried it, but if that is what you are referring to I may have to give it a try on a bulk cycle with the andros).
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yep, the GDA properties alone make it worth the money but you get the benefit of blocking some myostatin.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
yep, the GDA properties alone make it worth the money but you get the benefit of blocking some myostatin.
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Sounds good. I am always skeptical of natty supps unless there is research to back it up or a lot of unsponsored user logs with good results. I know for Black Lion the latter often exists.I got to ask, are you a rep for Black Lion? (Not saying if you are that necessarily means what you are claiming is false). I have some Vector I plan on running later this year.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Anyone know if there is a more effective myostatin inhibitor than (-)-epicatechin?
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Ecklonia cava and flos carthami are both myostatin inhibitors.
Both are combined with Epicatechin in Follidrone.
Plus absorption enhancement.
 
Questions to those who have used YK-11.

How fast did you start to notice it's effects and what were they early on?
 
dvw said:
Is the mentobolin is not exactly same as trestolone acetate? Im still confused if there different or same compound
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MENT= Trestolone acetate

Mentabolan= Prohormone to MENT

Trestolone= trestolone with no ester

Ment has a much longer half life, so if dosing pre workout trestolone is superior IMO

30MG a day on MENT is a solid dose. Not sure of the oral bioavailability so you might only be getting 20-25mg if taken orally
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
id like to know were you heard much longer half life? u got studies > post them up.
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The acetate ester obviously increases the half life substantially.
 
Karlrobert said:
My understanding is that ment is the prohormone to trest but active on its own as well. Supposed to be great pwo. I've had some great workouts with oral trest acetate as well
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Ya after reading that thread about it i bought a bottle and tried it twice pwo and wasnt impressed so i will throw it into my cycle in a few days
 
Newth said:
Questions to those who have used YK-11.

How fast did you start to notice it's effects and what were they early on?
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I started it on week 5 of my oil cycle. I have ran the same cycle be for but adding the yk seemed to make itwork faster lime i was seeing 12 week results in 8 or 9 weeks and wud have kept funning it if it didnr crash my e. Its been exactly a week since ive stoped the yk and still havent needed to dose an ai yet
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
orally esters don't matter.
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Strange then how you can get trestolone base and also acetate in oral form. First I've heard of that- about esters not mattering orally
 
Karlrobert said:
What about transdermal application then? In for knowledge
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Transdermally I'm sure the ester is still active as it goes directly into the bloodstream.
 
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