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Liver damage from oral AAS greatly exggerated

Transhuman said:
Let's also not forget how Mayweather stayed on the defensive until McGregor was too tired to keep going.
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Lets not forget a fresh mayweather smiling at the camera between rounds.
People really got suckered into thinking Connor could some how knock out mayweather.
How would that even happen?
I guess luck because the baddest men at that weight class couldn't do it.
I still paid and watched.
And I hoped Connor won.
But I knew that was not even close to happening.
People were staring waiting for this magic left.......
Diaz will eat up Connor next time too.
 
Cgkone said:
Lets not forget a fresh mayweather smiling at the camera between rounds.
People really got suckered into thinking Connor could some how knock out mayweather.
How would that even happen?
I guess luck because the baddest men at that weight class couldn't do it.
I still paid and watched.
And I hoped Connor won.
But I knew that was not even close to happening.
People were staring waiting for this magic left.......
Diaz will eat up Connor next time too.
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I wasn't expecting McGregor to win but I was expecting more effort from Mayweather.
 
Cgkone said:
Lets not forget a fresh mayweather smiling at the camera between rounds.
People really got suckered into thinking Connor could some how knock out mayweather.
How would that even happen?
I guess luck because the baddest men at that weight class couldn't do it.
I still paid and watched.
And I hoped Connor won.
But I knew that was not even close to happening.
People were staring waiting for this magic left.......
Diaz will eat up Connor next time too.
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I sure hope so. Cant stand that retard. Diaz won that last fight too. I was blown away when conor got the majority decision. The mma judging has been garbage the last few years
 
Mayweather bet on himself on when he was gonna end it. That's why he wore the mask going in to the stadium because he robbed all people paying for this fight. He played with conor this fight. He wasn't a ***** cause he literally had everything to lose. He was 49-0 , losing would put the whole boxing science in jeopardy and his own legacy. There wasn't gonna be any unfair slaps or grabbing during this fight. The only thing he did was to annoy conor and make him play by the boxing rules.

I don't like mayweather but this fight was ridiculous to even begin with.
 
Chados said:
Mayweather bet on himself on when he was gonna end it. That's why he wore the mask going in to the stadium because he robbed all people paying for this fight. He played with conor this fight. He wasn't a ***** cause he literally had everything to lose. He was 49-0 , losing would put the whole boxing science in jeopardy and his own legacy. There wasn't gonna be any unfair slaps or grabbing during this fight. The only thing he did was to annoy conor and make him play by the boxing rules.

I don't like mayweather but this fight was ridiculous to even begin with.
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It was for people in bars to scream at and put 100$ on Connor trying to get lucky
 
Cgkone said:
I don't like mayweather.
Normally he runs.
But didn't run from Connor.
By the end of the fight Connor didn't even have his hand up and was trying to get away from a 25lb lighter mayweather
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This boxing amateur really thought he could beat one of the most skilled and quickest boxers, ever?!

I find that hard to believe. There's no way any sane person would think that.
 
RickyBlobby said:
So you think if Floyd works on, say 75% takedown/ kick defense and can stuff the takedowns AND turn up the intensity (5 rds vs 12)he wouldn't stand a chance against Connor?



Tyson was plumb scary in his prime. I'm shocked he never broke somebody's neck with one of those blows!



IF they can get the takedown. Or tie them up against a wall and rain in elbows and knees..
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Golota suffered a concussion, a fractured left cheekbone, and a herniated disc in his neck after Tyson pummeled him during one of his comeback fights. The guy was subsequently hospitalized.
 
Georgiepecker said:
he won’t get sued for 20 million get real...if that’s what you were implying
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Broken hand, major lacerations, property damage, mental anguish from being attacked...... Maybe not 20 million, but I bet it could add up to a whole lot.
 
Spurfy said:
This boxing amateur really thought he could beat one of the most skilled and quickest boxers, ever?!

I find that hard to believe. There's no way any sane person would think that.
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Like I said.
ONLY bar people and guys being paid to hype the fight thought that.
I've watched rounds in slow motion and mayweather is literally having his way with him.
 
Spurfy said:
This boxing amateur really thought he could beat one of the most skilled and quickest boxers, ever?!

I find that hard to believe. There's no way any sane person would think that.
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Just people got caught up in the moment.
Dana white is smart.
But I think that cross over fight hurt UFC
Connor and Diaz is the only fight people should care about
 
Hey Spurfy, if running ox at 10mg during a 12+ wk cruise period, would you drop the 30gm creatine dose back or nah?
 
Currently on 40mg OX at night with 20 mg creatine daily.
Hgh 5iu
EQ
Mast
Test
All <300 mg
The mast I'm going to start 100ED
Give this OX thang a go go!
 
I haven't took creatine in about a year or so I'm already all plumped up . feels pretty good actually
 
Cgkone said:
I haven't took creatine in about a year or so I'm already all plumped up . feels pretty good actually
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Does creatine bloat your midsection? What is the main benefit? Kinda sad I’ve eaten dbol like skittles but don’t know **** about creatine lol
 
RickyBlobby said:
Does creatine bloat your midsection? What is the main benefit? Kinda sad I’ve eaten dbol like skittles but don’t know **** about creatine lol
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No it just bloats the muscles pretty much. It's just the water that's held is water held inside the muscle is the way I explain it not surface layer water blow like from estrogen
 
90% of people I know run creatine year round. I had stopped because I wanted to cut down on weight. Upon taking it again I'm hoping to find Synergy with anavar as reported by spur fee and users above
 
Cgkone said:
Currently on 40mg OX at night with 20 mg creatine daily.
Hgh 5iu
EQ
Mast
Test
All <300 mg
The mast I'm going to start 100ED
Give this OX thang a go go!
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That's a baller cycle. Looking forward to hearing about your results.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Does creatine bloat your midsection? What is the main benefit? Kinda sad I’ve eaten dbol like skittles but don’t know **** about creatine lol
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If it's not dissolved properly it can. That's why I recommend dissolving it in hot coffee, or at least hot water. Do not use tea, it will crystallize.
 
And I’m reading this right.... 30 GRAMS in the morning, right
 
Spurfy said:
That's a baller cycle. Looking forward to hearing about your results.
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well if i get BOMB results credit will be given where credit is due.
you make a very good case for OX
i was cruising on all the GEAR already adding OX posed little risk.
im in love with EQ so slow gainers are looking more and more appealing.
OX fits in nicely.
i get a good deal on 3 bottles so im in!!
 
Cgkone said:
well if i get BOMB results credit will be given where credit is due.
you make a very good case for OX
i was cruising on all the GEAR already adding OX posed little risk.
im in love with EQ so slow gainers are looking more and more appealing.
OX fits in nicely.
i get a good deal on 3 bottles so im in!!
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OX isn't going to blow up your mass, because it's a very dry AAS, but your muscles will become very dense/hard and strength will go up dramatically, especially with the creatine on board. All weight gains on Var are pure muscle. Var also directly burns fat, if you didn't already know.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Does creatine bloat your midsection? What is the main benefit? Kinda sad I’ve eaten dbol like skittles but don’t know **** about creatine lol
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Cgkone said:
No it just bloats the muscles pretty much. It's just the water that's held is water held inside the muscle is the way I explain it not surface layer water blow like from estrogen
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My stomach bloats on it a little bit and I do get a little water under my skin at higher doses.

Spurfy said:
I would bump that to 15/15. I think 30 grams/day is the sweet spot with oxandrolone, but obviously it's up to you.
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I was going to ask if this was okay... been running this for about 10 days, scale weight has increased from 209-213.4 while getting a little leaner. Digestive issues / appetite seem better than when using the normal dosing pattern thus far anyway.
 
Spurfy said:
I would bump that to 15/15. I think 30 grams/day is the sweet spot with oxandrolone, but obviously it's up to you.
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roger that.
might as well utilize the synerrgy.
from what ive read OX is one of the only steroids that has that relationship with creatine...is that correct?
 
Spurfy said:
If it's not dissolved properly it can. That's why I recommend dissolving it in hot coffee, or at least hot water. Do not use tea, it will crystallize.
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Interesting. I tried it for a while years ago, and it bloated me, so I never tried it again. Maybe I'll give it another try.
 
Bump for teh knowledge
 
Well my feeling is that you can't be too safe when it comes to liver protection while running orals. Sure, there are plenty of studies and experience from old school AAS. But does anyone really know how liver toxic the new designer steroids are that hit the market? We say on paper they are high toxicity or low toxicity, but then it doesn't always play out that way. It's much harder to gauge with the new stuff, especially if you're stacking them. I'd feel far more comfortable running tbol for 12+ weeks than any of the new designer steroids.
 
exactly.

Var Tbol dbol are all compounds I wouldn’t be scared to run for 12-16 weeks. With designers, your body will “tell” you when enough is enough.
 
Just curious, on sites about roids, how do they decide on the liver toxicity of a compound?
Some will say "DMZ exhibits only moderate toxicity", or "Hdrol=Mild on liver"....

Who decides this? Is it based on just opinions that get regurgitated over and over on websites or was it originally based on scientific evidence on the structure of the specific compound?
 
Kratom267 said:
Just curious, on sites about roids, how do they decide on the liver toxicity of a compound?
Some will say "DMZ exhibits only moderate toxicity", or "Hdrol=Mild on liver"....

Who decides this? Is it based on just opinions that get regurgitated over and over on websites or was it originally based on scientific evidence on the structure of the specific compound?
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Ain’t no human studies on DS, bruh

It’s just someone trying to compile anecdotes from guys like us that eat the stuff for 6 weeks and maybe get some bloods after and talk about how we felt on it. #broscience
 
Hyde said:
Ain’t no human studies on DS, bruh

It’s just someone trying to compile anecdotes from guys like us that eat the stuff for 6 weeks and maybe get some bloods after and talk about how we felt on it. #broscience
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That's what i figured.
But, there has been human studies and research done on dymethazine, back in the 60's...so id guess that whatever most designers are close to, like Hdrol is Turinabol, theres been studies, right?
 
Kratom267 said:
That's what i figured.
But, there has been human studies and research done on dymethazine, back in the 60's...so id guess that whatever most designers are close to, like Hdrol is Turinabol, theres been studies, right?
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No, in general the DS that were abandoned due to side effects during the testing never made it to the medical market, they were also not classified as drugs so they could be called Supplements which was the loophole that everyone started selling them under. So even though HDrol may seem similar to TBol that does not mean it is as healthy of an option. The likelihood is that it isn't.
 
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