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Long lasting Stim (non-Dmaa)

I also picked up 1g of tianeptine sulfate to see if there’s a difference. I have read where sulfate doesn’t hit as hard but lasts longer than sodium. We’ll see.
 
I also picked up 1g of tianeptine sulfate to see if there’s a difference. I have read where sulfate doesn’t hit as hard but lasts longer than sodium. We’ll see.
Let us know how you like... Most people don't like the sulfate as much because it does give a different feel than the sodium.
 
Let us know how you like... Most people don't like the sulfate as much because it does give a different feel than the sodium.

Will do. I just ordered another bottle of Vicaine also. I’m trying it in different ways but taking 1 along with a stim product seems to be the ticket for me. It’s great for appetite suppression.
 
I don’t know man. I’ve used HydroxyElite (25mg straight DMAA) for years and it’s still my favorite stim.

the new version of hydroxyelite aint all that bad either... picked up a bottle from Strong the other day and have been liking it so far. It has that new DMHA ingredient in it. Not quite the same as the DMAA but still has a nice little kick to it.
 
I also picked up 1g of tianeptine sulfate to see if there’s a difference. I have read where sulfate doesn’t hit as hard but lasts longer than sodium. We’ll see.
I have 25mg tianeptine sulfate caps as well. For me...it is just OK. It makes me tired dosed any higher than 1 capsule at a time. Also, don’t expect it to feel all that close to Vicaine...even dosed with a good stim..
 
I have 25mg tianeptine sulfate caps as well. For me...it is just OK. It makes me tired dosed any higher than 1 capsule at a time. Also, don’t expect it to feel all that close to Vicaine...even dosed with a good stim..
You got to buy that sodium mannnnnn... They are really different in terms of effects.

By the way, ma research will have it in stock as we are waiting for a shipment now. Hopefully within the next week.

5 grams in a liquid solution which is for research purposes only of course
 
I have 25mg tianeptine sulfate caps as well. For me...it is just OK. It makes me tired dosed any higher than 1 capsule at a time. Also, don’t expect it to feel all that close to Vicaine...even dosed with a good stim..

It’s pretty cheap so I just decided to give it some research.
 
You got to buy that sodium mannnnnn... They are really different in terms of effects.

By the way, ma research will have it in stock as we are waiting for a shipment now. Hopefully within the next week.

5 grams in a liquid solution which is for research purposes only of course
Yes...excited for the new products!

I only got the sulfate a few months ago because I was curious to see what the longer lasting effect was all about. No so wonderful :D
 
Depends on what you’re looking for. Sulfate is a longer, smoother ride. At low doses you don’t always notice it, but it improves a pre wo. Say you look back hours later and realize, good workout, no jitters, feeling good, T Sulfate contributes to that. The sodium is much more immediate.
 
Vicaine is awesome
Finally tried it
Loved it at 2 caps and I’m a stim whore
 
Please let us know.
 
I hear ImperialNutrition -makers of Excelsior are bringing out a tablet fat burner called Thermospark ?. Supposed to be stronger than Excelsior!
 
Well. DS Superstim is no mas
 
I got the new mesomorph, I'm. Super curious to see how this goes.

Stuff is STRONG, a one-scooper for sure. I actually find it too strong for my kettlebell workouts, reduces cardio abilities (common for me with strong stims). But wow does it feel good for getting **** done.
 
Agree...had 2 bottles of C&P Orchilean. Many attempts with increasing doses. Nothing. They went into the garbage.
 
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