My second cycle

Skeptik said:
I thought test and blood work 1 or 2 days before my end(furuza and 11oxo_oral)
Than I'm left 10 days with 7 keto dhea and low dose transdermal 11oxo. Nolvadren in my pct has cortisol reduction. After that my arranged at doctor for my complete blood test(because my thyroid levels are slightly higher(SLIGHTLY). I will pay for my hormone levels so this is the plan if my next blood test is OK. If it shows suppression I'm jumping on serms.
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Sounds good.
 
Cgkone said:
I'd like a log or two with some unconventional techniques.

Chados I'm thinking 5mg of osta in pct wouldn't be that bad at all.
I wouldn't do it....but it might be just fine.

OP is planning on logging this for us so I'm excited about the results of a recovery no SERM

I may run EQ all the way till July
At 450 mg 250 test 5iuGH
Then blast the EQ 900 mg for 2 months max out all lifts
That's 8 months of EQ
1 pint of blood every 7 weeks and bloods every 4 weeks

But variety is cool
Plus I like the experimental aspect

Yes SERM is advised
OP knows this.
OP is a grown up

I'm in for the end results
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Thank you
 
So yesterday I done legs, biceps back and forearms, today chest shoulders and triceps, later I'm going for some cardio. Any difference? My muscle pump is longer lasting. I feel a little weird, have more energy but also anxious a bit, had a few hot flashes today(nothing alarming), red on internet it's common side effect of taking Peds. Didn't done any cardio last few days(weather sucks) in my first cycle when doing cardio I noticed pump in my front side lower leg(opposite of calves) haha bad English, sorry, if it starts again I will know it's working. And since I have 7oxo would it be smart to throw it in my Pct since it reduces fat and cortisol?
 
Yeah I would think that would be a good idea regarding the 7oxo in PCT.
 
Did biceps back and forearms, barely forced myself to workout, my sleep was poor last two nights. Pump is still lasting longer(not sure if it is PH work or me forcing myself)
I'm taking furuza at 7 11 15 and 19h
11oxo at 7 200mg transdermal and at 15 300mg oral.
My diet is lower carbs higher fat and protein(a lot of fruits and vegetables) day 5 of my cycle. No wow yet
 
Skeptik said:
Did biceps back and forearms, barely forced myself to workout, my sleep was poor last two nights. Pump is still lasting longer(not sure if it is PH work or me forcing myself)
I'm taking furuza at 7 11 15 and 19h
11oxo at 7 200mg transdermal and at 15 300mg oral.
My diet is lower carbs higher fat and protein(a lot of fruits and vegetables) day 5 of my cycle. No wow yet
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I don't think it will be a WOW factor, so much as hey, I am getting stronger and leaner a little faster than usual. Furaza is pretty mild, you will notice the effects but I don't expect you will be wow'ed unless you have very low expectations.

SOme people seemed to get extra energy from Furaza too, so you may want to try backing the last dose away from bedtime to see if that has anything to do with the sleep issue.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I don't think it will be a WOW factor, so much as hey, I am getting stronger and leaner a little faster than usual. Furaza is pretty mild, you will notice the effects but I don't expect you will be wow'ed unless you have very low expectations.

SOme people seemed to get extra energy from Furaza too, so you may want to try backing the last dose away from bedtime to see if that has anything to do with the sleep issue.
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We'll see, I'm thinking the problem for sleeplessness and yesterday's anxiety was my experiment with pre-workout cookies I made. I mixed too much pine nuts ? with whey. Later I was feeling like I have eaten solid kg of tree bark. Discussing
 
Yeah that could sit on your stomach a bit and cause some discomfort. Well keep it in mind if sleep doesn't improve.
 
Did elevated lounges, stiff legged deadlifts chest triceps and shoulders. Slept like a baby for 9 hours last night. Feeling great like in last cycle(11-kt /11oxo) slightly more energized, pump lasting longer. Gonna do cardio latter. No more weirdness/anxiety (don't even think it was because of PHs). Guys down there OK, morning system check was OK. Feeling like muscles are getting more separated. That's all for now
 
Yesterday I got some sort of food poisoning. My stomach got 3 times bigger. First I was scared it's because of my peds, spoke to doctor and he gave me medication, he said if bloating stays after medication it's not food poisoning. Today bloat is OK, I have temperature. I skipped last dose of furuza yesterday at 19h. Did it today on schedule, but I couldn't put my 11oxo transdermal, I'm still to f+++*d. I'm hoping it won't affect me if I skipped few dosages. And another question about clomid and nolva I can get them and they will come in zip bags (I don't know what I'm getting) but I found research chemical site in my country (pretty weird for primitive country I live in) they claim they are getting chemicals from American research chemicals giant bought by German one. So my question is how safe is to purchase and consume their staff and can I post name of company?
 
You're asking very comlicated questions here. I mean zip bags doesn't seem unusual but it not directly from a pharmacy. When on gear you might eat more or eat something you normally don't to get calories etc and it can upset your stomach , so think about spreading meals out and not showing it down your stomach.
 
Chados said:
You're asking very comlicated questions here. I mean zip bags doesn't seem unusual but it not directly from a pharmacy. When on gear you might eat more or eat something you normally don't to get calories etc and it can upset your stomach , so think about spreading meals out and not showing it down your stomach.
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So it's OK to order from research Chem site. Thanks on the zip bag info
 
Chados said:
You're asking very comlicated questions here. I mean zip bags doesn't seem unusual but it not directly from a pharmacy. When on gear you might eat more or eat something you normally don't to get calories etc and it can upset your stomach , so think about spreading meals out and not showing it down your stomach.
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I'm spreading meals 5 to 6 of them, problem was paprika it messed me up pretty bad
 
Skeptik said:
I'm spreading meals 5 to 6 of them, problem was paprika it messed me up pretty bad
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Yeah I mean focus on how long between meals. Don't eat if you feel bloated and full basically. Not saying it's the problem but might be something to think about.
 
Skeptik said:
So it's OK to order from research Chem site. Thanks on the zip bag info
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Well aas comes in zip bags sometimes. I can't say whats safe. I know that many sites look suspicious because they are just underground labs with not much money I marketing. This doesn't mean that this specific company Is legit
 
Did lounges chest triceps and shoulders yesterday. Finally death crawled out of my @$$, but still didn't want to push myself to the max. Now had no problems no sides, feeling great a lot of energy. Feeling like my muscles are separating more and more. Strength increase noticed (especially when benching) Now at 103kg. Last time it was 107 or 106 about 3 or 2 weeks ago(don't really care that much) noticing vains even if I'm at higher body fat. For now everything is going good.
 
Did elevated squats, calf raises back biceps and forearms. This is starting to work. Did more pull ups, upped from 13kg dumbell bic curls(standing) to 15 for 3 sets 8 reps than dropped to 12 for 21s. Vains started showing on my forearms, I noticed one below my chest(I'm vainy when lean). Yesterday I noticed strength increase on my chest workout, today on every workout, I'm hoping this is going to go even further, off course aggression is there, no sides at all. I'm really glad I'm going with something mild, because for me this is weird before 4 days you are lifting normal and all of the sudden boom upping everything, so I feel it's like cheating if you know what I mean. I don't feel like I earn it. But overall pretty good. Not disappointed with results for now
 
Chest shoulders and triceps today. Yesterday and today wasn't that motivated, blame the weather, I'm slightly meteorophatic. Anyways I can push myself more than usual and pump is lasting longer, my biceps from yesterday workout are rock solid, noticing I'm getting leaner in abdomen area, and my arms are getting bigger
 
Back biceps and forearms today, pump was great, strength same as yesterday, feeling like my chest have grown.
 
Chest shoulders triceps today followed by cardio. Feeling terrible(weather is f;:'"d) anyway when I started to train I noticed more strength increase, I'm even thinking about ordering one more bottle of furuza. Could do more reps, next time I'm upping the weight.
 
Back biceps and forearms today, wasn't that motivated, pump was there no cardio due to the weather , I'm getting leaner in abdomen
 
Finally good weather, added 5kgs on each dumbell on my bench press, 2 on my skull crushers and more reps on laterals, just finished my 1hour fast uphill walk, feeling great and s+>t, little sides my joints are feeling rusty a bit, nothing to worry about(very minimal). I'm noticing vains everywhere, now funny thing is, when I'm lean I'm pretty vainy, but my fat accumulates around my lover back and abdomen, so you can see vains on chest shoulders and below chest and than just layers of fat . Pretty happy with results for now.
 
No workout today slept whole afternoon, tomorrow I'm going to help in some farming, later workout and cardio. I'm noticing my chest growing, it's ridiculous. I'm getting wider in shoulders.
 
Back biceps forearms squats and calves today followed by cardio, did farming in morning. Feeling strong upped my dumbell curls for 2 kgs. Ordered one more bottle of furuza
 
Push day yesterday, today biceps back and forearms. I'm growing hehe arms chest shoulders, it's incredible. I'm hoping I'll receive my next furuza this week. No sides(zero), no suppression. I'll up my cardio for next 10_12 days.
 
My furuza just came, I will run it 250mg for 12days, I'm left with 4 days with 200mg. 11oxo I will lower the transdermal pump 3/4 and take 200mg orally not 300mg as before. Yesterday I did triceps shoulders and chest. I'm getting bigger and more defined. My biceps is rock solid. No sides for now
 
Today biceps forearms back, pump is stronger, vascularity is better and more strength. Starting to lose more weight around abdomen area. Started working my abs . No sides, zero. Libido there, no hair loss nothing, got one odd pimple on my face (I think it's not from my peds). After three days I'll up the furuza dose to 200mg so it's 5 tabs daily. Baby please. Started doing more cardio.
 
Skeptik said:
Today biceps forearms back, pump is stronger, vascularity is better and more strength. Starting to lose more weight around abdomen area. Started working my abs . No sides, zero. Libido there, no hair loss nothing, got one odd pimple on my face (I think it's not from my peds). After three days I'll up the furuza dose to 200mg so it's 5 tabs daily. Baby please. Started doing more cardio.
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Up to 250mg not 200
 
Push day yesterday, pull today, pump is just increasing. Got massive pump from first set. Vain on biceps noticed more than previously. Got lower back pain last 3 days, lower back and upper glutes, don't know is it back pump or something else? Some pain in right forearm. Now question for you guys. I found product containing epistane and halodrol 20mg each, would it be smart to take in my next cycle? Of course with test base and proper pct
 
Skeptik said:
Push day yesterday, pull today, pump is just increasing. Got massive pump from first set. Vain on biceps noticed more than previously. Got lower back pain last 3 days, lower back and upper glutes, don't know is it back pump or something else? Some pain in right forearm. Now question for you guys. I found product containing epistane and halodrol 20mg each, would it be smart to take in my next cycle? Of course with test base and proper pct
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You could run that for your next cycle, but I would either choose epistane or halodrol and go with proper dosing. 20mgs of each is tough because 60mgs of epistane is on the high end and 60mgs of hdrol is on the lower end. I don't like it because it doesn't give you the freedom to alter your doses as you see fit, but you could definitely run it.
 
210LBS said:
You could run that for your next cycle, but I would either choose epistane or halodrol and go with proper dosing. 20mgs of each is tough because 60mgs of epistane is on the high end and 60mgs of hdrol is on the lower end. I don't like it because it doesn't give you the freedom to alter your doses as you see fit, but you could definitely run it.
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Thanks, probably halodrol than
 
Didn't work out for last 2 days, today calves squats Bic back and forearms than over 1 hour uphill fast walking. I did my famous break from healthy lifestyle, I was on two day beer marathon hehe , now I'm at peace for next couple of months. Progress definitely noticeable. Vains on biceps getting more visible,on quads too and forearms too. No sides at all, guys down there are OK, everything is good. Have 6 more days of my cycle.
 
So, three more days at 200mg of furuza, I'm left with extra 11oxo(I'll use it later this summer). Push day today. I'm leaner in my abdomen, but much more wider in shoulders and my arms are more defined(bigger too)so I didn't expect to get results like this with no sides at all, very pleased with results. In two days I'll measure my e and test levels, and at Sunday I'll post my pictures so you can see results. I'm repeating myself here I'm very happy with the way it ended no sides feeling good, guys down there are spitting fine. At the beginning you guys scared me a bit with all suppression stuff and blah blah,will see after complete blood work in a month.
So if I start to plan next cycle it will be 40 days max, I'm just starting to feel bored with non stop pill swallowing. Going for cardio now, I'm hoping this will help some noob someday
 
Here are some pictures. I'm so bad at taking photos. I hope you can see the difference. Push day today, done some farming in the morning, later going for the cardio. Blood work next week Monday or Tuesday Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
Good progress man, it looks like you have leaned out quite a bit.

Not to distract from your log but there seems to be some more experienced ppl on here and I want some advice for my next cycle. Im thinking about running methdrol from pred or triumph superdrol. My question is have any of you used these compounds or know how good/legit they are? I have ran 2 cycles before, then1st was hi tech superdrol which is basically andros(was suprisingly a great cycle for me) and the my last was epi andro, 1 and 4 andro all from olympus (also a suprise but in a bad way, did not feel as strong as the first cycle but i did gain some strength while cutting)
 
Jglove said:
Good progress man, it looks like you have leaned out quite a bit.

Not to distract from your log but there seems to be some more experienced ppl on here and I want some advice for my next cycle. Im thinking about running methdrol from pred or triumph superdrol. My question is have any of you used these compounds or know how good/legit they are? I have ran 2 cycles before, then1st was hi tech superdrol which is basically andros(was suprisingly a great cycle for me) and the my last was epi andro, 1 and 4 andro all from olympus (also a suprise but in a bad way, did not feel as strong as the first cycle but i did gain some strength while cutting)
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As I know methdrol is super potent, as I would progress with peds this would be my last stuff to try , stuff from pred is g2g. Just me as you can see, I'm new to this world
 
Here it is guys, last day of my cycle, pull day today, tomorrow starts my pct, I will still use min dose of 11oxo for 4 5 days. I'm happy with results. Strength went up size went up, my arms cannot fit in my favorite long sleeve, side effects, almost nothing, suppression 0,every morning I'm having morning wood, the only thing I noticed was pimple on my face, just one, and today couple on my back(nothing like examples on net from roids, more like sweat pimples). So if someone wants to try this I even suggest upping the dose of furuza to 300mg(if money isn't a problem), and if you are more expirienced and determined as natural bb you can have fare more better results, I even measured my arms 45cm, that's 18 inches(correct me if I'm wrong)
 
Push day today, pump is gone, while I was on, on my 2nd set I was pumped, strength same, to my eye I'm looking better than on. Still pushing myself hard. Decided to skip blood work, I'll do it later this month, as I have arranged my complete blood test. Pct for now is nolvadren xt(man sports) and pct complete from brown nutrition. Feeling good and energetic, haaard morning wood.
 
Been a while hehe, so I'm taking nolvadren xt and test booster plus low dose of atd, it's OK still growing, especially arms and chest, and now the problem guys? I ordered couple pre workout testers, they are all potent "so they claim" they have thar dmaa dmha stuff in the plus other stimulants, and now I tried them and they don't work FOR ME, my theory is, since I used before amphetamines mdma and that stuff, those pre-workouts don't do $h>t, is there someone like me, or is there someone who is immune to pre-workouts. Stuff is from Warior labs kraken, and not 4 p"ssy pre-workout?
 
Skeptik said:
Been a while hehe, so I'm taking nolvadren xt and test booster plus low dose of atd, it's OK still growing, especially arms and chest, and now the problem guys? I ordered couple pre workout testers, they are all potent "so they claim" they have thar dmaa dmha stuff in the plus other stimulants, and now I tried them and they don't work FOR ME, my theory is, since I used before amphetamines mdma and that stuff, those pre-workouts don't do $h>t, is there someone like me, or is there someone who is immune to pre-workouts. Stuff is from Warior labs kraken, and not 4 p"ssy pre-workout?
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Pre workouts are just like drugs these days. The first time I tried DMAA I fell in love. After that, it just wasn't the same again. I kept chasing that feeling like a drug addict tries to chase the feeling of their first high.
 
210LBS said:
Pre workouts are just like drugs these days. The first time I tried DMAA I fell in love. After that, it just wasn't the same again. I kept chasing that feeling like a drug addict tries to chase the feeling of their first high.
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Snorting blow with superdrol
 
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