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Your favorite natural test booster if you're natty.

As people have already mentioned, products like AlphaMax XT and M-Test are solid options. I've never used M-Test, but the ingredient profile looks good. I've used AlphaMax XT and enjoyed it before. You have the full doses of ashwagandha, tongkat ali, forksolin, etc. So I find, and research suggests, that it can help with libido and mood, as well as with performance and body composition, so it has many uses that most of us could probably benefit from.
 
johnl1800 said:
I've run a number of test boosters over the years. Many either aren't being made anymore or were so forgettable that I couldn't even remember the names. Here's a partial list of the Test Boosters that I've tried more recently that I can remember off the top of my head, what my impressions of them were and whether or not I would purchase them again.

Viron (Black Lion): Noticed a libido increase, like the other BLR products that I've tried I would repurchase.

Diesel Test Pro/Hardcore (Diesel Nutrition): What I have been running lately, I know that a lot of people do not like the Diesel Nutrition policy of proprietary blends or the "kitchen sink" approach of their products but so far I have been happy with all of the Diesel products that I've purchased (Ether, Ready4War, Coq, DTP, DTH, Raw Test) and would purchase them again.
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I agree with you on Get Diesel's products. Everyone of them I used worked well.



johnl1800 said:
The ones that I would probably repurchase would be Diesel Test, Viron and maybe, Test1fy and Anabolic Matrix. One of my friends is a big AlphaMax fan but I haven't taken it myself. I also see that Kaged Muscle has a new one out called Ferodox that looks interesting but I haven't tried that one yet either.
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I am using Kaged Muscle Ferodrox and today is day 25. Sleep is great, libido is up and #1 for me is the mood boost from the KSM-66.


johnl1800 said:
Genius Test does look interesting but at $57.99 a bottle it had better be the best test booster ever made.
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Looks great but way over priced.
 
johnl1800 said:
I'm 54 and the only bloodwork that I had done was when I went to a TRT clinic to see where I was at. At my age I would expect that my test levels aren't what they once were but at 650+ I guess that for my age they aren't bad and obviously TRT isn't necessary or an option.

I didn't do any further bloodwork because I really wasn't expecting any of them to actually boost my test all that much. However I did notice that I felt, slept and seemed to recover better and had a nice libido boost while on the ones that I liked which was the main reason that I was taking them.

The ones that I would probably repurchase would be Diesel Test, Viron and maybe, Test1fy and Anabolic Matrix. One of my friends is a big AlphaMax fan but I haven't taken it myself. I also see that Kaged Muscle has a new one out called Ferodox that looks interesting but I haven't tried that one yet either.
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650 @ 54 is really good..
Viron is good, M-Test is good, Get diesel RAW test is good.
 
Studhorse said:
650 @ 54 is really good..
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Thanks, yeah I figured "Hey I'm old now" so let me get some bloodwork done and see what's up. The doctor called back and when I asked him what the verdict was he laughed and said "You're not even close to being eligible for TRT." I asked him why I don't seem to have quite the same energy, libido etc. that I used to and he said that I probably had pretty high levels when I was young so 650 is "low" compared to what I was used to operating on but in the overall scheme of things is pretty good for my age I guess.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
As people have already mentioned, products like AlphaMax XT and M-Test are solid options. I've never used M-Test, but the ingredient profile looks good. I've used AlphaMax XT and enjoyed it before. You have the full doses of ashwagandha, tongkat ali, forksolin, etc. So I find, and research suggests, that it can help with libido and mood, as well as with performance and body composition, so it has many uses that most of us could probably benefit from.
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It's legit
 
While I thoroughly enjoy K1NGSBLOOD and TEST1FY, my all time favorite without any question was the original Sparta Trojan PCT. It included Fadogia, Tribulus, Prolensis, Trans Resveratrol, HMB, and a bit of Arimistane. It was all wrapped up in their TetraSorb technology which very well could have made the difference. It was absolutely amazing for libido...over the top! In addition to that, it actually offered some significant physique enhancement which can be rare in a test booster.

I went through about 5 bottles of this within a year or two. Sadly, they decided to change the formula into something that looks less than spectacular and I have never tried that..

If anyone can find this original gem somewhere...it would be well worth your time to pick some up...
 
Ricky10 said:
While I thoroughly enjoy K1NGSBLOOD and TEST1FY, my all time favorite without any question was the original Sparta Trojan PCT. It included Fadogia, Tribulus, Prolensis, Trans Resveratrol, HMB, and a bit of Arimistane. It was all wrapped up in their TetraSorb technology which very well could have made the difference. It was absolutely amazing for libido...over the top! In addition to that, it actually offered some significant physique enhancement which can be rare in a test booster.

I went through about 5 bottles of this within a year or two. Sadly, they decided to change the formula into something that looks less than spectacular and I have never tried that..

If anyone can find this original gem somewhere...it would be well worth your time to pick some up...
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Surely original must have expired by now, u ever email them asking why the change in formula?
 
00A said:
Surely original must have expired by now, u ever email them asking why the change in formula?
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No...I never mailed them. They basically changed all their original formulas.
If it can be found, I am quite sure it would still be in code as the change was made less than 2 years ago I think. It is tricky because some retailers show a picture of the current bottle and old ingredients or vice versa. The original has 180 caps and the new one has 90. Ultimately, a phone call would have to be made to the retailers to verify the correct product.
 
johnl1800 said:
Thanks, yeah I figured "Hey I'm old now" so let me get some bloodwork done and see what's up. The doctor called back and when I asked him what the verdict was he laughed and said "You're not even close to being eligible for TRT." I asked him why I don't seem to have quite the same energy, libido etc. that I used to and he said that I probably had pretty high levels when I was young so 650 is "low" compared to what I was used to operating on but in the overall scheme of things is pretty good for my age I guess.
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Did he test you estrogen? they usually don't. your estrogen might be higher than it should. reducing the estrogen might help your libido.
 
Studhorse said:
your estrogen might be higher than it should. reducing the estrogen might help your libido.
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The strange thing for me is that I've actually had issues with low estrogen in the past rather than high. While I seem to have a pretty high tolerance for things like pre-workouts and sleep aids, estrogen blockers on the other hand, not so much. That's probably why I didn't care for certain test boosters with estrogen blockers in them. After a few weeks I start to exhibit the same familiar signs, stiff achey joints, poor sleep, my libido dries up, etc.
 
JAS51 said:
Since this thread is about natty test boosters, I have a question.Is the "morning wood" from taking a natty test booster a sign of increased testosterone? Jiigzz Studhorse muscleupcrohn USPlabsRep
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Your testosterone level is at its highest in the morning after you wake up. It is highest immediately after waking up from rapid eye movement (REM) sleep stage. I know at 54 it happens more than not when I'm on a good natty booster. when I was younger I woke up almost every morning with wood.
 
johnl1800 said:
The strange thing for me is that I've actually had issues with low estrogen in the past rather than high. While I seem to have a pretty high tolerance for things like pre-workouts and sleep aids, estrogen blockers on the other hand, not so much. That's probably why I didn't care for certain test boosters with estrogen blockers in them. After a few weeks I start to exhibit the same familiar signs, stiff achey joints, poor sleep, my libido dries up, etc.
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I was the same way I had to watch things that naturally lowered my estrogen. But my last blood work. it was higher than usual.
I took LETRONE & VIRON for 8 weeks and about 3 weeks in my labido was back to full strength.
 
I had good experience with Sergeant Steel it has a solid formula. I also liked Forged Methyl eaa when I took it a couple of years ago. I tried hardcore test a long time ago, it was nothing special. I also tried IML's Ultra Male and it was ok.
 
JAS51 said:
Since this thread is about natty test boosters, I have a question.Is the "morning wood" from taking a natty test booster a sign of increased testosterone? Jiigzz Studhorse muscleupcrohn USPlabsRep thebigt
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testosterone is a major player in quality of erections, but it is by far not the only role player....many guys who are on trt are also prescribed Viagra...test boosters work in a variety of ways, increasing test to a small degree is only one of them...

it is my opinion that test boosters are more performance enhancers[bedroom and gym] than straight up test boost enhancers.
 
JAS51 said:
Since this thread is about natty test boosters, I have a question.Is the "morning wood" from taking a natty test booster a sign of increased testosterone? Jiigzz Studhorse muscleupcrohn USPlabsRep thebigt
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As others have mentioned, it's a "good sign," but it doesn't technically "prove" anything. In my opinion, the primary benefits of testosterone boosters often work via other MoAs than increasing testosterone to provide benefits traditionally associated with increased testosterone. For example, many of forskolin's benefits come from effects on cAMP, not just increasing testosterone. Similarly, some ingredients can improve libido and sexual function in ways that aren't via increasing testosterone, even if they can also increase testosterone a bit, if that makes any sense. So things like AlphaMax and M-Test have ingredients that can increase testosterone, many of the benefits will come from MoAs besides increasing testosterone, but will provide many benefits associated with increased testosterone (libido, mood, performance, body composition, etc).
 
Studhorse said:
Your testosterone level is at its highest in the morning after you wake up. It is highest immediately after waking up from rapid eye movement (REM) sleep stage. I know at 54 it happens more than not when I'm on a good natty booster. when I was younger I woke up almost every morning with wood.
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thebigt said:
testosterone is a major player in quality of erections, but it is by far not the only role player....many guys who are on trt are also prescribed Viagra...test boosters work in a variety of ways, increasing test to a small degree is only one of them...

it is my opinion that test boosters are more performance enhancers[bedroom and gym] than straight up test boost enhancers.
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muscleupcrohn said:
As others have mentioned, it's a "good sign," but it doesn't technically "prove" anything. In my opinion, the primary benefits of testosterone boosters often work via other MoAs than increasing testosterone to provide benefits traditionally associated with increased testosterone. For example, many of forskolin's benefits come from effects on cAMP, not just increasing testosterone. Similarly, some ingredients can improve libido and sexual function in ways that aren't via increasing testosterone, even if they can also increase testosterone a bit, if that makes any sense. So things like AlphaMax and M-Test have ingredients that can increase testosterone, many of the benefits will come from MoAs besides increasing testosterone, but will provide many benefits associated with increased testosterone (libido, mood, performance, body composition, etc).
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Thank you.
 
USPlabsRep said:
Ultimate T, not even close...

Don't take my word for it, PM address (complete address folks that means a real name to the shipping address not your screen name), I'll send you a bottle with ONE CONDITION..... if you agree to post honest feedback after 10-14 days...you'll know pretty quick....
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Been out of the natty test booster game awhile but ultimate T was the only one I ever felt. Went from zero morning wood a few months post cycle to morning wood every day
 
I was using OL LJ100 just for daily maintenance. I don't particularly favor doing cycles of 8 weeks on certain "all-in-one" products anymore. But the OL LJ100 seemed to not work as well as Nutrex TestED: I could really feel a difference on 4 caps a day, but once again, it jacked up my sleep. I hate that some products that work so great for others seem to mess up my sleep and I usually quit it after 5 bad nights in a row...

Bumping to see what a good daily or 5/2 maintenance test booster is that people like that is QUALITY, that isn't once of the "mood, muscle, test, E2" combinations. Something simple.

Thanks!
 
I was using OL LJ100 just for daily maintenance. I don't particularly favor doing cycles of 8 weeks on certain "all-in-one" products anymore. But the OL LJ100 seemed to not work as well as Nutrex TestED: I could really feel a difference on 4 caps a day, but once again, it jacked up my sleep. I hate that some products that work so great for others seem to mess up my sleep and I usually quit it after 5 bad nights in a row...

Bumping to see what a good daily or 5/2 maintenance test booster is that people like that is QUALITY, that isn't once of the "muscle, test, E2" combinations. Something simple. A few ingredients are ok. I was looking at Kaged Muscle's Ferodrox.

CEL M-Test, Alpha-Max, CEL Anabolic and BLR Vector ALL messed with my sleep.

Thanks!
 
JYD said:
I was using OL LJ100 just for daily maintenance. I don't particularly favor doing cycles of 8 weeks on certain "all-in-one" products anymore. But the OL LJ100 seemed to not work as well as Nutrex TestED: I could really feel a difference on 4 caps a day, but once again, it jacked up my sleep. I hate that some products that work so great for others seem to mess up my sleep and I usually quit it after 5 bad nights in a row...

Bumping to see what a good daily or 5/2 maintenance test booster is that people like that is QUALITY, that isn't once of the "muscle, test, E2" combinations. Something simple. A few ingredients are ok. I was looking at Kaged Muscle's Ferodrox.

CEL M-Test, Alpha-Max, CEL Anabolic and BLR Vector ALL messed with my sleep.

Thanks!
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If you want the simplest, most barebones, budget option that’s cheap but has promising research on the ingredients and good user feedback, 600mg/day KSM-66 ashwagandha and 500mg/day PrimaVie shilajit is a good stack that you can use daily for months. Most products only use 200-250mg/day PrimaVie, but the most promising research I’ve seen used 500mg/day. Shouldn’t run you more than $20/month for the two together. I don’t see either of these ingredients messing with sleep either TBH, but YMMV I suppose.
 
Their useless! And I am 52 years old.
You can get much more from your money with great supplements like BMP, AE and Folidrone.
Do your f**ckn squats, manage your stress, get your sleep. That is what maintains and raises natural test...
 
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Ptlhains said:
Their useless! And I am 52 years old.
You can get much more from your money with great supplements like BMP, AE and Folidrone.
Do your fuckin squats, manage your stress, get your sleep. That is what maintains and raises natural test...
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You're staying the test boosters are useless? ...and for AE = Anabeta Elite or...???
 
Ptlhains said:
Their useless! And I am 52 years old.
You can get much more from your money with great supplements like BMP, AE and Folidrone.
Do your fuckin squats, manage your stress, get your sleep. That is what maintains and raises natural test...
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bullshit...and I am 61
 
JYD said:
You're staying the test boosters are useless? ...and for AE = Anabeta Elite or...???
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Yes, for the money spent you can get much more results and feel better using other supplements like Anabolic Effect etc.. etc..
 
thebigt said:
bullshit...and I am 61
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One will get infinitely more results if they focus more - on doing their f**ckn squats, managing their stress and getting their sleep. One should not limit themselves with a test booster.
 
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Ptlhains said:
Guess you need to focus much more on doing your f**ckn squats, managing your stress and getting your sleep.
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and those 'worthless' test boosters help me with those very things...raising test isn't a issue for me since I am on trt. 'good' test boosters help in many ways outside of test increase. todays test boosters include a nice variety of ingredients geared towards performance, and better quality of life--at least in my experience.
 
What about Fordrox? Looks like a good formula without too much other "all emcompasing" stuff added in. ??

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JYD said:
What about Fordrox? Looks like a good formula without too much other "all emcompasing" stuff added in. ??

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Why 200mg PrimaVie though? IIRC, 250mg/day was the low dose used in studies, with 500mg/day having the most promising data IMO.
 
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