Why does it seem all 1 andro off the market recently?

There sh1t loads of fake gear on eBay, and I’m not just talking ph/ds/aas. But it’s a well known fact lots of people sell bunk supplements. It’s too easy to do and even easier to fake. Buy from a reputable supplier. Your first port of call.... the uk.
You can thank me later
 
solidsnake said:
There sh1t loads of fake gear on eBay, and I’m not just talking ph/ds/aas. But it’s a well known fact lots of people sell bunk supplements. It’s too easy to do and even easier to fake. Buy from a reputable supplier. Your first port of call.... the uk.
You can thank me later
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Thanks starting from now


Any suggestions from UK
 
I ran 1-andro once and it wasn’t all that good. Although 4-andro will be missed as test base. Sarms seem to be the way to go now
 
So is the FDA actually banning 1-DHEA and 4-DHEA, or is this just related to the fact that Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals owns the patents for these hormones and is currently dealing with a more generalized variety of legal issues with the FDA?
 
JCR97 said:
I ran 1-andro once and it wasn’t all that good. Although 4-andro will be missed as test base. Sarms seem to be the way to go now
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You need test bases for sarms. This could impact SARM business, and increase AAS usage....
 
Mzakif said:
Thanks starting from now


Any suggestions from UK
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I would never buy an off label product from eBay bud. I’m talking finding people selling off stock of name brand products they have. I bought some prinevil labs Lgd there and it was very good.
 
SpicedCider said:
So is the FDA actually banning 1-DHEA and 4-DHEA, or is this just related to the fact that Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals owns the patents for these hormones and is currently dealing with a more generalized variety of legal issues with the FDA?
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Yes. There’s some long threads on it her somewhere. Hi tech has stopped production because of legal issues and they are the supplier to all the brands.
 
Robert11 said:
Yes. There’s some long threads on it her somewhere. Hi tech has stopped production because of legal issues and they are the supplier to all the brands.
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Wow, that sucks to hear. Hopefully Hi-Tech will get their legal issues worked out soon so that these products will be back on the market. In the meantime, what are the best choices for very PH cycles? SARMS?
 
JCR97 said:
I ran 1-andro once and it wasn’t all that good. Although 4-andro will be missed as test base. Sarms seem to be the way to go now
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What was the issue with 1 andro

Actually I have Spartan hard and Cerberus but when I got them I didn’t know that proper dose should be 330+ for 1 and 4 andro and 600+ for epi

That’s why I’m trying to get more of them to start my 1st cycle

Otherwise I’ll have to run them together for 4 weeks

Or start with hi tech anavar the. Take them for 4 weeks

I’m open to suggestion for future cycles

As lesson learned is I should have done better research befor buying any thing
Jm88888 sorry didn’t mean to hack your post
 
I know VaughnTrue has said that he has heard the andros should be back up and running sooner than later. I'll be honest - I'm getting a little nervous myself. I have a couple bottles of 19nor and 1,4 (Equibolin), but I want to pick up several more bottles of each in order to get a good run of each (or stacked). There are still places on the market selling them but it is mostly price gouging.
 
VaughnTrue, Would you happen to have an ETA regarding when we can expect to see these products back on the market? And do you know if Superdrol will be one of the products that resumes production? I'm especially interested in giving that a run when it's available to purchase again (would be interested in logging it as well).
 
SpicedCider said:
VaughnTrue, Would you happen to have an ETA regarding when we can expect to see these products back on the market? And do you know if Superdrol will be one of the products that resumes production? I'm especially interested in giving that a run when it's available to purchase again (would be interested in logging it as well).
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christ83189 said:
Subbed for VaughnTrue 's update
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I've been told they should all be sooner than later...I'm waiting on the edge of my seat right here with ya guys!
 
Mzakif said:
What was the issue with 1 andro

Actually I have Spartan hard and Cerberus but when I got them I didn’t know that proper dose should be 330+ for 1 and 4 andro and 600+ for epi

That’s why I’m trying to get more of them to start my 1st cycle

Otherwise I’ll have to run them together for 4 weeks

Or start with hi tech anavar the. Take them for 4 weeks

I’m open to suggestion for future cycles

As lesson learned is I should have done better research befor buying any thing
Jm88888 sorry didn’t mean to hack your post
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Try Iron Mag Labs, however their doses of 1 Andro and 4 Andro is small so you will have to buy several bottles to get the recommended 330 mg daily
 
VaughnTrue said:
I've been told they should all be sooner than later...I'm waiting on the edge of my seat right here with ya guys!
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Isn't it true the Indictment against Hi Tech wasn't due to selling 1 Andro or 4 Andro per se, but rather that they added illegal banned steroids and labeled them as Andros? If this is the case, I don't think Andros will be gone for good.
 
JoePaul39 said:
Isn't it true the Indictment against Hi Tech wasn't due to selling 1 Andro or 4 Andro per se, but rather that they added illegal banned steroids and labeled them as Andros? If this is the case, I don't think Andros will be gone for good.
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Not exactly. They didn’t add anything. As part of the manufacturing process trace amounts of, idk, precursor or secondary substances which are illegal were found. The levels are so low it has no pharmacological effect but a nice loop hole for the government to shut them down. So in theory anyone manufacturing it can have a microscope stuck up their ass and better have a perfect manufacturing process.
 
JoePaul39 said:
Try Iron Mag Labs, however their doses of 1 Andro and 4 Andro is small so you will have to buy several bottles to get the recommended 330 mg daily
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Thanks buddy

Noticed that it’s doses are low I’ll keep the as last option. Specify that will add much to the cost in addition to shipping to Egypt .

However My problem is finding a supplier with good price and ships to Egypt

Any suggestions?
 
When you are the big dog in the industry, you paint a big target on your back.
Sellers that get questioned by the feds can just point the finger at them.
Lastly, the eq ph isn’t found in any food. It’s a difficult compound to synthesize.
 
Robert11 said:
Not exactly. They didn’t add anything. As part of the manufacturing process trace amounts of, idk, precursor or secondary substances which are illegal were found. The levels are so low it has no pharmacological effect but a nice loop hole for the government to shut them down. So in theory anyone manufacturing it can have a microscope stuck up their ass and better have a perfect manufacturing process.
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I think it is odd trace elements of that was found in the supplements. Where did you hear it was only trace elements?
 
JoePaul39 said:
I think it is odd trace elements of that was found in the supplements. Where did you hear it was only trace elements?
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Here man. I said there was an older thread on all this.

anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/297434-legal-andros-under.html
 
Tbh in my opinion if your going to mess with your hormones and endocrine system make it worth while, why bother with all these 2 step Andros?take something that’s going to give you results because at the end of the day most of us use anabolics to make us look better ( yes, we do)and with these 2 step Andros your not really going to achieve much and probably end up disappointed with the results. For the time you’ll have to use the aforementioned Andros to get an absolute minimum gain is 8 weeks and in that timeframe I can think of many better compounds that will give you much better results ..... just my 2 cents( euro cents that is )
 
solidsnake said:
Tbh in my opinion if your going to mess with your hormones and endocrine system make it worth while, why bother with all these 2 step Andros?take something that’s going to give you results because at the end of the day most of us use anabolics to make us look better ( yes, we do)and with these 2 step Andros your not really going to achieve much and probably end up disappointed with the results. For the time you’ll have to use the aforementioned Andros to get an absolute minimum gain is 8 weeks and in that timeframe I can think of many better compounds that will give you much better results ..... just my 2 cents( euro cents that is )
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So what do you suggest instead of Andros

And do u think they are good option even for 1st cycle
 
Everything is goal dependent. There have been plenty of users who have had solid results with andros. Primordial Performance created a legendary line of Andro's that people still covet...I just saw a few bottles of AndroHard sell for $100 each, and they expired in 2013.

Their AndroHard was a combo of epiandro and androsterone
Androbulk was 4-dhea + 19nor
Androdrive DHEA + Pregnenolone
AndroMass 1-DHEA + 4-DHEA

these things are not cheap, but they do give results.
 
I have a bunch of andro and similar stuff on eBay at all times, you just gotta know what to look for on there. 4 andro is catching the ban hammer along with dmz, msten, and 1 alpha but only those 4 are up on the chopping block currently.
 
yates84 said:
I have a bunch of andro and similar stuff on eBay at all times, you just gotta know what to look for on there. 4 andro is catching the ban hammer along with dmz, msten, and 1 alpha but only those 4 are up on the chopping block currently.
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Dang they're all getting banned? Glad i swooped some up yesterday then. Looks like im gonna have to go all the way to the dark side soon
 
Yeah, he's right. The only website, for that matter place, in the world where people sell fake supplements is ebay.

Commmmmmmme on man....if you know what you're looking for Ebay has perfectly legit, real, banned, suspended, discontinued, you name it..

read reviews, see seller's history, and buy products from trusted labs.

It's that simple.

Why would any red blooded american purchase something from the UK that will take 2-3 weeks to arrive, if it does, when you can basically buy anything you want if you look hard enough and have it in a matter of days. look for supps based in arizona (Iconsupplements) guarantee you they sell 1-andro, if they dont ebay is a reputable publicly traded marketplace where reviews are prevalent, and seller history is abundant.
 
yates84 said:
I have a bunch of andro and similar stuff on eBay at all times, you just gotta know what to look for on there. 4 andro is catching the ban hammer along with dmz, msten, and 1 alpha but only those 4 are up on the chopping block currently.
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4-andro? That seems random. I have no interest in DMZ or Msten and I'm already sitting on a bottle of M1A, so I'm not too worried about that. But I should have picked up some 4-andro. There are still some good deals on Black Stone Labs andros but I'm very suspicious because they seem to never go out of stock. They're the only company that seems to have an infinite supply of product out there...
 
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