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ax1 said:
I believe Dump (well the whole establishment as a whole) would start a war with Iran before ever really considering DPRK. I think its a matter of when than if actually.
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Eisenhower tried to warn us all. Trump will see dollar signs every time he launches an attack.
 
Anyone follow Qanon stuff?

Gitmo flights
ATL power outage
The LAX flight that returned
Passport glitch

I hope it's true. If so there's a few people itt that will owe some apologies.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Anyone follow Qanon stuff?

Gitmo flights
ATL power outage
The LAX flight that returned
Passport glitch

I hope it's true. If so there's a few people itt that will owe some apologies.
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What exactly is it that you hope is true? I have an opinion on this and 4chan is general, but I'm curious why you're in favor of it.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
What exactly is it that you hope is true? I have an opinion on this and 4chan is general, but I'm curious why you're in favor of it.
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I'm in favor of past/current corrupt politicians/ people going to prison for a very long time. Their party doesn't matter to me. Rep, Dem, Indep, I don't care what race or sex, if someone was using tax dollars, murdering people, sharing classified info, etc for personal gain... Bye. Enjoy Guantanamo

What is your opinion of it?
 
cubsfan815 said:
I'm in favor of past/current corrupt politicians/ people going to prison for a very long time. Their party doesn't matter to me. Rep, Dem, Indep, I don't care what race or sex, if someone was using tax dollars, murdering people, sharing classified info, etc for personal gain... Bye. Enjoy Guantanamo

What is your opinion of it?
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Keep it simple, move Gitmo to Washington and lock them all up!
 
cubsfan815 said:
I'm in favor of past/current corrupt politicians/ people going to prison for a very long time. Their party doesn't matter to me. Rep, Dem, Indep, I don't care what race or sex, if someone was using tax dollars, murdering people, sharing classified info, etc for personal gain... Bye. Enjoy Guantanamo

What is your opinion of it?
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If you were actually in favor of any of that, then you wouldn't be in favor of this. How is Trump using tax dollars and sharing classified info and putting us at risk of war to go after this fictional "deep state" bull**** actually lining up with anything you claim to be in favor of? I'm in favor of corruption being dealt with and that includes Hillary and Trump and not doing it in secret which would be the actual "deep state" if that existed outside of the minds of internet trolls who have no real life experience in this and think they have the world figured out because other random strangers on 4chan support their ego.

4chan and qanon and all the little Mr. Robot-watching, Alex Jones disciples have gotten people killed and it's **** like this that will get more innocent people killed. And they should be held accountable for it.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
If you were actually in favor of any of that, then you wouldn't be in favor of this. How is Trump using tax dollars and sharing classified info and putting us at risk of war to go after this fictional "deep state" bull**** actually lining up with anything you claim to be in favor of? I'm in favor of corruption being dealt with and that includes Hillary and Trump and not doing it in secret which would be the actual "deep state" if that existed outside of the minds of internet trolls who have no real life experience in this and think they have the world figured out because other random strangers on 4chan support their ego.

4chan and qanon and all the little Mr. Robot-watching, Alex Jones disciples have gotten people killed and it's **** like this that will get more innocent people killed. And they should be held accountable for it.
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I actually partially disagree with something, the ""deep-state" bullshyt,"" if there is anything bullshyt about it is that Dump is every part of it.

Lets not forget who wanted Snowden assassinated.
 
ax1 said:
I actually partially disagree with something, the ""deep-state" bullshyt,"" if there is anything bullshyt about it is that Dump is every part of it.

Lets not forget who wanted Snowden assassinated.
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I typically agree, but something seems weird. I can't determine if he's a puppet like I assumed, or if that was part of the act. It's weird
 
I hope the folks over in iran are able to pull it off without too much killing....watching the protests I kept seeing signs that said 'bring back pavlavi'...I guess they are referring to reza pavlavi the heir apparent to the defunct throne.

how sweet it would be for iran to be an ally once again like when reza's father was in charge.....thanks a lot jimmy carter!!!
 
thebigt said:
I hope the folks over in iran are able to pull it off without too much killing....watching the protests I kept seeing signs that said 'bring back pavlavi'...I guess they are referring to reza pavlavi the heir apparent to the defunct throne.

how sweet it would be for iran to be an ally once again like when reza's father was in charge.....thanks a lot jimmy carter!!!
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Pahlavi. I wouldn't count on it as long as Trump continues to bend over for Netanyahu.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
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I thought Trump was going to take care of vets.

"Veteran homelessness increased 1.5 percent (or 585 persons) since January 2016, primarily in California cities. Since 2010, however, Veteran homelessness declined nationally by 46 percent. On a single night in January 2017, 40,056 veterans were experiencing homelessness."

First increase in veteran homlessness since 2010...you know when Obama was President lmao
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Which day in January? 2/3's of Jan 2017 Obama was still pres.
 
thebigt said:
I hope the folks over in iran are able to pull it off without too much killing....watching the protests I kept seeing signs that said 'bring back pavlavi'...I guess they are referring to reza pavlavi the heir apparent to the defunct throne.

how sweet it would be for iran to be an ally once again like when reza's father was in charge.....thanks a lot jimmy carter!!!
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Bring back "Pavlavi" would be something of huge concern for me watching these protests. Ive met Chinese in China that want Mao back...and he only slaughtered 70-100 million Chinese. Just makes no logical sense. People have it so bad that dont mind a little not as bad, kinda like how people get trapped voting for Demicans and Republicrats all the time.

Why not, "fuq the Iranian government and all the Iranian governments (aka puppet dictators) before it and put it something good for once that will really benefit us moving forward?"

Personally, been busy working alot lately so havent looked into it but Id be utterly shocked if the Iran protests werent all started by the CIA.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Were you born mentally challenged where you hallucinate **** I said or were you hit in the head a lot as a kid? I'm suspecting a little bit of both.
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How is it welfare when the program is set up to take money out of your income in order to give it back to you at retirement? The system is so screwed because they didn't follow the rules with how they handled the money.
 
youngandfree said:
How is it welfare when the program is set up to take money out of your income in order to give it back to you at retirement? The system is so screwed because they didn't follow the rules with how they handled the money.
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Ignoring that social is right in the name, it's not the same as a private pension. The money that we are taxed is used to pay those currently receiving social security which does not only include retirees. From the beginning, Congress has increased and cut benefits, so it's never a dollar for dollar return. Benefits also favor lower wage earners, but people have been brainwashed into thinking this is a retirement plan they have earned. It's fairly straightforward socialism. The government decides how much you have to pay, what they're going to do with the money, when you're going to get a return, and how much of a return you'll get all for the sake of public welfare.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Ignoring that social is right in the name, it's not the same as a private pension. The money that we are taxed is used to pay those currently receiving social security which does not only include retirees. From the beginning, Congress has increased and cut benefits, so it's never a dollar for dollar return. Benefits also favor lower wage earners, but people have been brainwashed into thinking this is a retirement plan they have earned. It's fairly straightforward socialism. The government decides how much you have to pay, what they're going to do with the money, when you're going to get a return, and how much of a return you'll get all for the sake of public welfare.
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I don't know this for fact, but I suspect many entitlement programs are paid for with ssi money?

you are right, for most of my life my generation was told it is a retirement plan...only in the last 20 or so years has the truth came out.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
18 billion for a wall that won't work. $ee billion total?! Can't wait to see where that money comes from.
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When they launch all these new wars and initiate a draft I think that wall will work somewhat to keep us in. That primarily what its going to be used for and we are more proficient in texting than digging tunnels.

That 18 Billion dollar wall will probably end up costing 25 billion and they will probably also sneak in financing to hire TSA to molest people at national park entries somewhere or everywhere.
 
ax1 said:
When they launch all these new wars and initiate a draft I think that wall will work somewhat to keep us in. That primarily what its going to be used for and we are more proficient in texting than digging tunnels.

That 18 Billion dollar wall will probably end up costing 25 billion and they will probably also sneak in financing to hire TSA to molest people at national park entries somewhere or everywhere.
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Exactly. Plus upkeep and repair. Then it'll cost us 50 billion when a future Republican/Democrat decides to remove it.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Exactly. Plus upkeep and repair. Then it'll cost us 50 billion when a future Republican/Democrat decides to remove it.
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It will make a great tourist destination for Asians in about 1,200 years. They can walk on it as one of the great laughing stocks of many lifetimes past.

Actually never-mind, they dont build walls like the way they used to during the Qin Dynasty days. It will just be some type of ground level walking trail and gift shops.
 
ax1 said:
It will make a great tourist destination for Asians in about 1,200 years. They can walk on it as one of the great laughing stocks of many lifetimes past.

Actually never-mind, they dont build walls like the way they used to during the Qin Dynasty days. It will just be some type of ground level walking trail and gift shops.
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It's a canvas. I would buy stock in spray paint now!
 
yup, who needs a wall and while were at it lets fire all ice and border patrol...democrats say illegal immigration is good for the economy, that should get the economy booming!!!
 
thebigt said:
trump donated 1st quarter salary to national parks service, recently he donated 2nd quarter salary to education....I have a feeling vets will be on that list!!!
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Lol, then he cuts their budgets bigly.
 
p5sky said:
Good memory, I haven't been on the boards so much for a while now.
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you made a good impression. lots of respect for teachers, especially male teachers these days!!! :bigok:
 
thebigt said:
you made a good impression. lots of respect for teachers, especially male teachers these days!!! :bigok:
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Much appreciated. It's sad, my school used to be about 50/50 male to female teachers, now I'm one of a few. More like 75/25 female to male. Our local elementary school has ONE male teacher. :(
 
p5sky said:
Much appreciated. It's sad, my school used to be about 50/50 male to female teachers, now I'm one of a few. More like 75/25 female to male. Our local elementary school has ONE male teacher. :(
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I have my reasons for why that is...but I'm interested to hear what you think.
 
thebigt said:
yup, who needs a wall and while were at it lets fire all ice and border patrol...democrats say illegal immigration is good for the economy, that should get the economy booming!!!
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Trump has hired and continues to hire immigrants at his properties. That's not making up fake claims as you do about democrats; that's an easily found fact that he doesn't even hide. I can't wait for you to blame democrats when your benefits get cut to pay for a wall that doesn't work.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
How do you define it then?
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It's OUR money! The govt takes our money to save for our retirement days. How is that welfare or an entitlement?

If we are not going to get SS then don't take it directly out of our paycheck, let us invest it on our own.

I wonder how much of a return we get in our investment? I will not get SS even though I paid into it for 13 years in the private sector, so I donated MY money.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Trump has hired and continues to hire immigrants at his properties. That's not making up fake claims as you do about democrats; that's an easily found fact that he doesn't even hide. I can't wait for you to blame democrats when your benefits get cut to pay for a wall that doesn't work.
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go ahead and look it up, democrats claim illegal immigration is good for the economy...I am NOT making this up!!!
 
p5sky said:
It's OUR money! The govt takes our money to save for our retirement days. How is that welfare or an entitlement?

If we are not going to get SS then don't take it directly out of our paycheck, let us invest it on our own.

I wonder how much of a return we get in our investment? I will not get SS even though I paid into it for 13 years in the private sector, so I donated MY money.
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I don't disagree with you that it's our money and we should be alowed to invest it how we wish or blow it on hookers and crack honestly. I think perhaps we're not agreeing on the word 'welfare' which is a pretty heated term. I'm simply saying that it's welfare because they take our money against our will and redistribute it to those currently receiving social security, which does not only include retirees who spent their lives working and paying into it. The money we MIGHT get won't be from us, but will be a younger generation paying whatever percentage the government decides at that time and wel'' also only get whatever percentage they decide. That's why I'm calling it welfare.
 
thebigt said:
go ahead and look it up, democrats claim illegal immigration is good for the economy...I am NOT making this up!!!
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You're talking in generalizations. I have no doubt I can waste my time looking for this article (it's control-c and then control-v...it's not that hard...I believe in you!) and I have no doubt I could find an article in which a single democrat said something that dumb or the quote was taken out of context and given some inflammatory headline.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
You're talking in generalizations. I have no doubt I can waste my time looking for this article (it's control-c and then control-v...it's not that hard...I believe in you!) and I have no doubt I could find an article in which a single democrat said something that dumb or the quote was taken out of context and given some inflammatory headline.
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geez, dude...you really need to do some research.
 
thebigt said:
go ahead and look it up, democrats claim illegal immigration is good for the economy...I am NOT making this up!!!
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This is the same with Republicrats too...I remember Bush constantly saying they are the ones that do jobs that we wont.

They all really mostly have the same policy views.
 
ax1 said:
This is the same with Republicrats too...I remember Bush constantly saying they are the ones that do jobs that we wont.

They all really mostly have the same policy views.
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I'm sure this will piss people off, but my view is that if your job can easily be done by somebody with no experience or training, then maybe immigration isn't the issue. I worked my ass off to get to a place where I can't be replaced and make zero apologies for it.
 
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