brundel
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Hey Mike. Yah raspberry lemonade sounds tasty and a lot of people said they like lemonades. I'm testing a super strong and a mild taste version before we go to production next week.
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Mike Arnold
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Sounds good. It should be here soon then.
brundel
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Yes we are going to do a kitchen sink product for sure.
Ergogenic is a very broad term as it can pertain to endurance, recovery, overall performance.
The pre will increase performance and endurance.
Kitchen sink will as well.
Im going to do a powdered fat burning stim.
And we are testing 5x anabolic extracts currently. Eventually Ill be satisfied with the anabolics efficacy and release it to the world.
Also update- the BCAAs are in production. We should have in 3 weeks ish.
And we are finalizing the formula for a protein powder as well. Really solid stuff. Youll like
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00A
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Yes we are going to do a kitchen sink product for sure.
Ergogenic is a very broad term as it can pertain to endurance, recovery, overall performance.
The pre will increase performance and endurance.
Kitchen sink will as well.
Im going to do a powdered fat burning stim.
And we are testing 5x anabolic extracts currently. Eventually Ill be satisfied with the anabolics efficacy and release it to the world.
Also update- the BCAAs are in production. We should have in 3 weeks ish.
And we are finalizing the formula for a protein powder as well. Really solid stuff. Youll like
Can we at least see BCAA label etc
Segansational
Well-known member
Sour apple, pina colada (or a tropical fruit flavor), and mango are top flavors for me.
primolift00
Member
Yes we are going to do a kitchen sink product for sure.
Ergogenic is a very broad term as it can pertain to endurance, recovery, overall performance.
The pre will increase performance and endurance.
Kitchen sink will as well.
Im going to do a powdered fat burning stim.
And we are testing 5x anabolic extracts currently. Eventually Ill be satisfied with the anabolics efficacy and release it to the world.
Also update- the BCAAs are in production. We should have in 3 weeks ish.
And we are finalizing the formula for a protein powder as well. Really solid stuff. Youll like
What flavors are you considering for the protein?
brundel
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I'm unsure.
What flavors do you guys like?
Most likely we would play it relatively safe for the first run.
1 flavor. Vanilla or chocolate etc.
Where it will be different is on the label. Protein sources and a lack of artificial additives.
primolift00
Member
Blueberry toaster pastry and pb cereal milk by ghost are probably my two favorite flavors for drinking shakes or making ice cream.
Mts pumpkin is another favorite but I use it mostly for making pancakes and waffles.
Just my opinion but already too many vanillas and chocolates on the mkt, I am always more excited for more exciting flavors. Also, Brundel you have made the BLR brand synonymous with innovation. I think a more exciting flavor would better represent the brand than vanilla or chocolate.
brundel
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Ill certainly take into consideration all options.
I just dont want to make 1000 units of something and have nobody want it. Or only a handful of people want it.
But pretty much all options are open. When I get closer to having the formula ready Ill start a thread with a poll and some options and Ill let you guys help me make the decision on flavor.
I also wanted to ask you guys.
How many of you would want a powdered stim. Something like alphamine for example.
I just dont want to make 1000 units of something and have nobody want it. Or only a handful of people want it.
But pretty much all options are open. When I get closer to having the formula ready Ill start a thread with a poll and some options and Ill let you guys help me make the decision on flavor.
I also wanted to ask you guys.
How many of you would want a powdered stim. Something like alphamine for example.
paul56778
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Cinnamon Bun or Red Velvet I Feel are good flavours as well as Snickerdoodle And Blondie, How do you make protein ice cream, i have tried but it becomes to solidified and then is more like protein ice blocks than cream?
paul56778
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+ 1 for powdered Stim fat burner like alphamine.
and also for Incinderine 2.0
also what about another non stim fat burning option or is that covered with new anabolic being developed.
a topical fat burning gel cream in addition to exotherm would also make a great addition.
primolift00
Member
I splurged on one of the higher end Cuisinart models (where you don't have to pre freeze anything. I use it several times a week so well worth it). Protein, almond milk, and depending on the particular protein, sweetener ( Stevie and/or Blueberries or fruit/berry of choice). Actually comes out relatively soft in Cuisinart.
If you don't mind the extra calories use whole milk.
Also great to put the ice cream into a blender, add some milk and have a milk shake.
this works better with protein that mixes thick ( e.g. Select or ghost. A more watery isolate is not a good choice).
primolift00
Member
Yes a powdered fact burner would be awesome. Brundel, in case it's helpful to get ideas, Here is how I would rank my current 3 favorites.
Taste
1. Enduralean
2. Radiate
3. Bloodshr3d raw
Energy without crash
1. BSR
2. Radiate
3. Enduralean
Appetite suppression
1. Radiate
2. BSR and enduralean are equal
I think all of them are good as fat burners with bsr probably the best in that area.
Also since you mentioned alphamine, I am noting that enduralean is essentially a carbon copy of alphamine ( profile is close to being exactly the same) but enduralean does not match alpine in taste
brundel
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I'd say there is a strong chance we will have a powdered stim/fat burner soon. Just dialing in the formula.
Incinderine is also for sure possible.
Have been considering some new transdermal. There are some pretty exciting ingredients that could work well transdermally. looking into it.
Well see. The new anabolic product is evolving. 1 of the ingredients is a unique standardization of a known plant. This stuff has been testing very strong. I think we'll have the anabolic by Xmas.
Powdered stim prob within 60 days.
Bcaa 3 weeks or less.
Pre workout....potentially by xmas.
Ricky10
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I would like lightning in a capsule too!
TheMovement
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Honestly a Chocolate Protein that reminds people of brownie batter is a sure winner. Chocolate always will appeal to the masses.
In the term of Stims OG Alphamine was a killer product. Great taste, ease of use, and most of all that I think people forget is the serving sizes for full customization. When Norco first hit the market it had an appetite suppression complex that was phenomenal. Energy and mood boost from Alphamine, and the actual suppression and heat factor with Norco made for one amazing product. The formula was changed and I gave both a try and was shocked and appalled at the different. To date I no longer use or recommend them.
I was one of very few who actually got to try and use Oxyelite Powder and I was awesome as well.
In the term of Stims OG Alphamine was a killer product. Great taste, ease of use, and most of all that I think people forget is the serving sizes for full customization. When Norco first hit the market it had an appetite suppression complex that was phenomenal. Energy and mood boost from Alphamine, and the actual suppression and heat factor with Norco made for one amazing product. The formula was changed and I gave both a try and was shocked and appalled at the different. To date I no longer use or recommend them.
I was one of very few who actually got to try and use Oxyelite Powder and I was awesome as well.
GreenMachineX
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Are you going for a massive mood boost too?
TheMovement
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Seems like the common thing alot of companies are doing now. A nice mood lift is great while sipping something like a powdered stim.
brundel
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I think we want a real feel good product yes.
I also think I'm going to utilize something I learned while researching the pre workout.
Something that makes stimulant use better
But the tentative ingredient panel already looks killer.
GreenMachineX
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I think we want a real feel good product yes.
I also think I'm going to utilize something I learned while researching the pre workout.
Something that makes stimulant use better
But the tentative ingredient panel already looks killer.
This sounds awesome.
brundel
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Just another quick update.
We are going to be including this new ingredient in 2 products. Its a strong, fat burning anabolic. Exceptionally strong.
This is a 100%.
Oral and transdermal in a phospholipid complex.
This ingredient is going to be a big one. Its sort of like...clenbuterol mixed with a light PH. Wicked stuff.
We will be running final testing in about 2 weeks. You should be seeing a product with it within 90 days.
We are going to be including this new ingredient in 2 products. Its a strong, fat burning anabolic. Exceptionally strong.
This is a 100%.
Oral and transdermal in a phospholipid complex.
This ingredient is going to be a big one. Its sort of like...clenbuterol mixed with a light PH. Wicked stuff.
We will be running final testing in about 2 weeks. You should be seeing a product with it within 90 days.
kjscatch
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Perfect. Will be running out of FD2 around then.
paul56778
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Sounds awesome i cannot wait to try new product to provide feedback on them and test to see how they work, i have had great results from Formeron, Exotherm, Incinderine, Letrone, Prolactrone, and Follidrone 2, i am yet to use Rebirth and Nootrol.
00A
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brundel
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Its been a while please update us, especially about the new natural anabolic
Final batch of raws for the anabolic shipped to us today. We will prob get by Mon. Well mix and cap and send out to a handful of testers.
If, after 2 week we have no unforseen sides we will order production quantity of raws and go to production.
So...4 weeks ish we should have the new anabolic.
One of our members has been testing just 1 of the 5 ingredients and after a couple of weeks he asked if it was a prohormone.
2. we will also be testing the new fat burning ingredient. This stuff will be going into a new fat burner. Powdered.
3. BCAAs should land at our warehouse today. Ill try to get em up on the site by this weekend and we will offer some stacks and deals.
brundel
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I think the pre could be ready within the first quarter of 2018.
TheMovement
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Well got dang!!!
TheMovement
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Looking like BLR is about to step out and seriously change the game!
brundel
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So for everyone who has been asking about the new anabolic (hopefully available by Xmas)I wanted to share a recent report. This one particularly because its a well known forum member and not some random name nobody knows of.
This is I think at the 2 -3 week point-
They are testing just 1 of the 5 ingredients going into the final product-
Lots of Supp and PED experience. So not a noob-
This is the same person who on the last update asked if this was a prohormone or DS.
Here is their update=
Well I wanted to wait a bit to actually give you quantifiable information:
Weights up 5-7lbs. My weight fluctuates constantly but water or not its all a gain in the right direction.
Bench: started my training cycle with a contest max of 375. Just tested my same pause bench in the gym for 390lbs. Almost to 405 but im quite impressed because it wasnt a "good" bench day. Followed up with a 315x7 bench press when I was only aiming for 4x5.
Squat: 425x4 when my previous max was 405x4. I believe Im almost back to 455. Def not a favorite of mine.
DL: 545x4!!! Never been able to DL for volume and I tell ya when its heavy its really difficult for me.
Thickness is improving and thats something thats been a real burden for me. I had a VO2 max test but wont be able to pay for that again until I find another job but currently staying very active and eating 5400 calories. Some days I fall short but I make up for it in the long run.
Endurance: Really haven't noticed much in this department but I can sustain my HR easier. Its a work in process since my bike snapped.
Sleep: No issue taking close to bedtime.
GI: No distress noted on a fasted morning or anytime for that matter.
Physique: No leaning out but my abs have thickened and held on well. Vascularity is there and looking to keep it that way. The addition of more veins in my shoulders has me thinking Im heading in the right direction. Circumference measurements will be retaken at the end of 10weeks.
This is the reason I asked my previous question. I am stronger and my weight jump has been more then what I am used to seeing. Almost to new territory in my strength training. I can say whatever this is, its good!
This is I think at the 2 -3 week point-
They are testing just 1 of the 5 ingredients going into the final product-
Lots of Supp and PED experience. So not a noob-
This is the same person who on the last update asked if this was a prohormone or DS.
Here is their update=
Well I wanted to wait a bit to actually give you quantifiable information:
Weights up 5-7lbs. My weight fluctuates constantly but water or not its all a gain in the right direction.
Bench: started my training cycle with a contest max of 375. Just tested my same pause bench in the gym for 390lbs. Almost to 405 but im quite impressed because it wasnt a "good" bench day. Followed up with a 315x7 bench press when I was only aiming for 4x5.
Squat: 425x4 when my previous max was 405x4. I believe Im almost back to 455. Def not a favorite of mine.
DL: 545x4!!! Never been able to DL for volume and I tell ya when its heavy its really difficult for me.
Thickness is improving and thats something thats been a real burden for me. I had a VO2 max test but wont be able to pay for that again until I find another job but currently staying very active and eating 5400 calories. Some days I fall short but I make up for it in the long run.
Endurance: Really haven't noticed much in this department but I can sustain my HR easier. Its a work in process since my bike snapped.
Sleep: No issue taking close to bedtime.
GI: No distress noted on a fasted morning or anytime for that matter.
Physique: No leaning out but my abs have thickened and held on well. Vascularity is there and looking to keep it that way. The addition of more veins in my shoulders has me thinking Im heading in the right direction. Circumference measurements will be retaken at the end of 10weeks.
This is the reason I asked my previous question. I am stronger and my weight jump has been more then what I am used to seeing. Almost to new territory in my strength training. I can say whatever this is, its good!
00A
Well-known member
Is it Urolithin B? Lol, sorry couldnt help myself
brundel
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I can tell you that within this specific plant extract are several interesting constituents. Each of the extracts we are using have several actives. There is even have some overlap. In this way we get exceptional doses of the targets and a wide spectrum of anabolic, anticatabolic, androgenic, fat burning effects. My expectation with this product is it will be more of a mass builder than Follidrone. Follidrone is great for building muscle yes but its very lean due to the GDA effects and fat burning properties. Ive seen ALOT of guys lose weight in spite of muscle growth. Not a bad thing but Im saying I think this will be a different animal. I expect more of a wet muscle builder. Tester A. whos report you saw above has gained between 5-7lbs in 2-3 weeks. Keeping in mind this is only 1 of 5 ingredients. He is also already I would think near or well above his genetic max and well trained so this isnt to be taken lightly. This new stuff is going to be a powerhouse.
00A
Well-known member
Thank you sir, please can you add some confidence and do the needed blood tests, do not wish for any hormone issues especially lowering of T levels..I know you may not catch out any side effects, but following these new natural anabolics there is many mixed reviews and reactions
00A
Well-known member
No they did not - my current mood has changed as a result of this, Im strong beliver in quality and safety. We learn these things in school, Im fairy new to your style of work, so if you provide the needed, then I will have much confidence in yourself as a consumer and someone who loves the fitness life..
brundel
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I agree with you 100%.
It's important to do our due diligence, run necessary labs and double check our own work because.....We are selling people products that are supposed to help them reach their goals and companies make statements that have shaky validity at best. From where I stand if something is anabolic then we need to show how and why. If, it's via androgen receptor activity then we need to show it's stronger as an anabolic than our endogenous androgens. If not then are we displacing 1 anabolic in favor of a weaker one which reduces anabolism not increases and potentially leaves us needing pct for a Catabolic cycle.
So far we have not seen much in the way of suppression during testing but we won't know until we have all the labs. And finally, I don't mind if it lowers test levels as long as it's sufficiently anabolic and not only replaces the lost testosterone and dht but surpasses it's anabolic potential.
This is a lofty expectation for a natural anabolic though which is why we use many anabolic agents instead of 1.
If your going to need to run a pct it should be worth it!
TheMovement
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Has the price been added to the BCAAs yet?
BlockBuilder
Well-known member
Good to see new products coming. I’m about to give follidrone a run for the first time. If I like it I’ll probably keep it as a staple. Will be my first go with an Epicatechin product
brundel
Board Sponsor
Price is up but I'm not sure where it will land.
Prob going to run an intro sale in the next day or so.
brundel
Board Sponsor
You'll love the fd2. It so much more than an so I product. It isn't even sort of comparable to just epicatechin.
TheMovement
Well-known member
Now that’s what I’m talking about!!! Now to make myself some more $$$.
beastreborn
New member
Looking forward to it! FD2 has been great!