HiTech and IGF-1

Danes said:
I bought 6 bottles of my own money and I need to say I am skeptic to this.
But its fun to try new stuff and if this works, it will deliver nice results. If it does not bring any IGF1 effects it means its jist expensive whey tabs. I will not hear like " well you are non responder to this". There are no non responder to IGF1 :)
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Yes, I love to try new stuff too! It is even more fun though when it is followed by a positive response. I hope it turns out to be more than just expensive whey tablets for your sake though :D
 
Danes said:
I bought 6 bottles of my own money and I need to say I am skeptic to this.
But its fun to try new stuff and if this works, it will deliver nice results. If it does not bring any IGF1 effects it means its just expensive whey tabs. I dont want to hear like " well you are non responder to this". There are no non responders to IGF1 :)
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thank you, my friend....this stuff is way to expensive for me to experiment with, I will wait to see what you think!!!

6 bottles would well exceed my total sup allowance for 2 months, lol!!!
 
thebigt said:
thank you, my friend....this stuff is way to expensive for me to experiment with, I will wait to see what you think!!!

6 bottles would well exceed my total sup allowance for 2 months, lol!!!
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Honestly my friend, I bought this product to let other know how it works. If it works, I will definitely let people know and even recommend it but If it does not work, I will definitely not recommend it and I can say the product is nothing than garbage .

But until then, it need to be tested :)
 
Needless to say, I'm hoping too..seeing as I have some bottles on the way
 
Danes said:
Honestly my friend, I bought this product to let other know how it works. If it works, I will definitely let people know and even recommend it but If it does not work, I will definitely not recommend it and I can say the product is nothing than garbage .

But until then, it need to be tested :)
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You drawing blood?
 
Danes said:
Honestly my friend, I bought this product to let other know how it works. If it works, I will definitely let people know and even recommend it but If it does not work, I will definitely not recommend it and I can say the product is nothing than garbage .

But until then, it need to be tested :)
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You purchasing 6 bottles will certainly make you qualified to give real world knowledge and feedback on whether or not this is worth the purchase. ;-)
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Great! Put up the "before" number when you get it. Now we can see (if this works at all) what the better value is: This stuff or MK-677 (which we know works).
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I will :)
Its very tricky to get bloodwork done here. Doctors are like " why do you need to check your IGF1. Blablabla"
 
djbombsquad said:
To see if oral igf works lol
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Been 5 days on it. (Taking 5 tabs pre workout and 5 pre bed). Usualy I dont sleep heavy but last 2 days I have slept like king and actually felt lethargy too.
Have not changed workout routine, diet or anything. I am not saying its due to IGF1 but amazing sleepquality those 2 last days and lethargy (feeling tired whole day) is strange and not common for me
 
Danes said:
Been 5 days on it. (Taking 5 tabs pre workout and 5 pre bed). Usualy I dont sleep heavy but last 2 days I have slept like king and actually felt lethargy too.
Have not changed workout routine, diet or anything. I am not saying its due to IGF1 but amazing sleepquality those 2 last days and lethargy (feeling tired whole day) is strange and not common for me
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Interesting
 
So all IGF-1 that is NOT Lr3 has a very short half life. I personally would take this as I walk into the gym. Hits your blood as you are about 2/3 way through your training and hopefully due to blood flow it hits the muscles being trained before anything else.

Assuming the products hits the blood stream intact I would have liked to see a much higher dose as even with effective delivery it is not going to be 100%. Something in the neighborhood of 50-100mcg/day would be much better IMO. Now I know this is brand new and hopefully the cost per mcg will come down with time.
 
djbombsquad said:
Maybe add it to a delivery system like astragin etc
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the product comes with a delivery system...thats what most of this discussion has been about. there's nothing yuou can add to this product that will enhance absorption and delivery better than whats already within it
 
6th day. 2 last days I have noticed strong hunger after waking up. Usualy my appetite is low right after waking up.
 
well I'll take these as extremely positive signs here from Danes!


what % increase in IGF-1 levels would people in here find "impressive"?
 
VaughnTrue said:
well I'll take these as extremely positive signs here from Danes!


what % increase in IGF-1 levels would people in here find "impressive"?
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Lets say this product at this dose deliver nice strength and size, I would not care about IGF1 numbers at all.
 
Danes said:
Lets say this product at this dose deliver nice strength and size, I would not care about IGF1 numbers at all.
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ultimately, it is all about results I agree.

I just also know % increase or total numbers has been peoples biggest question since we released the product however
 
VaughnTrue said:
ultimately, it is all about results I agree.

I just also know % increase or total numbers has been peoples biggest question since we released the product however
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Numbers are a good indication if a product works. And numbers are needed because there are some people who has poor diet and horrible training routine..but totaly changing when they are on a exciting product. I am not saying we shall eat crap and expect huge things from natural supps but I mean I dont need to change workout routine and diet when its great actually. 300-350g protein daily (50g from hydrolysate and other 250-300 from whole food) should be MORE than enough to get anabolic effect lets say from Pro IGF1 :)
 
Danes said:
Numbers are a good indication if a product works. And numbers are needed because there are some people who has poor diet and horrible training routine..but totaly changing when they are on a exciting product. I am not saying we shall eat crap and expect huge things from natural supps but I mean I dont need to change workout routine and diet when its great actually. 300-350g protein daily (50g from hydrolysate and other 250-300 from whole food) should be MORE than enough to get anabolic effect lets say from Pro IGF1 :)
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Agreed..you dont have to change a thing :-)
 
It looks VERY promising so far. I know I'm starting my second week now and already feeling much fuller and much better recovery time between workouts. Now after this week hopefully the size gains come on strong as well :)






-Spaz
 
Big_Spaz said:
It looks VERY promising so far. I know I'm starting my second week now and already feeling much fuller and much better recovery time between workouts. Now after this week hopefully the size gains come on strong as well :)






-Spaz
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I hope we get some sexy gains :D
 
so I just got emailed a set of blood tests comparing pre IGF-1 levels, and then IGF-1 levels 2 weeks later when using 20mcg/day.


anyone interested in seeing them?
 
VaughnTrue said:
so I just got emailed a set of blood tests comparing pre IGF-1 levels, and then IGF-1 levels 2 weeks later when using 20mcg/day.


anyone interested in seeing them?
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Definitely..now this is what Im talking about..reps who dont just talk the talk but walk the walk. :-)
 
Joe12 said:
VaughnTrue can this stuff cauls lethargy? I've been exsperiacing some lethargy the last three days. I'm never down, and am not sure what's up.
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its definitely possible...again, you're going to feel the exact same benefits and negatives as with injectable IGF-1. Do a quick google search for "IGF-1 lethargy"
 
VaughnTrue said:
its definitely possible...again, you're going to feel the exact same benefits and negatives as with injectable IGF-1. Do a quick google search for "IGF-1 lethargy"
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stay on it too long or mega dose and it can create hair loss...interesting article here..

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Guys..i need some feedback. Would it be overkill to run igf-1 with alphamax xt and xgels? I have my bottle ariving tomorrow and i have the rest sitting at home.
 
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