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The strongest PWO ever?

Might be the AY, it feels incredibly stimmy the come up does feel like AY in that you get all the twitchiness and potential for shakes.

It's really good for the stim tolerant, hell I'm tolerant and this was way too much, mesomorph is dead on the money for me.
Not to mention you seem to come up twice on executioner, not nice 3 hours later when you're trying to sleep.
Plus you crash hard, least I did.

I've given mine to a mate who loves his columbian marching powder, he needs it to be that strong to work which is fair enough.

Nope just mesomorph, mixed with hypermax xt on occasions will do me fine, least for now.
Yeah, I have been mixing forever now...really allows you to tailer different products to your needs. You should try OL RE1GN soon..it has a very different feel to it than anything else..
 
I'm now convinced OL RE1GN is the strongest out there if you take the recommended 2 scoops. But this can be too overpowering and can effect your workout adversely depending on your stim tolerance. 1.5 scoops for me is perfect.
 
In terms of raw stimulant potency, the most powerful PWO I have ever had was OG MAN Sports Game Day. 1/2 scoop was enough to get me tweaking out hardcore...and not in a good way. I think my one and only tub lasted me well over a year with intermittent use. That, or it may have just sat in my supplement stash and eventually evaporated out of my life. Either way, it was not anything that was conducive to working out.
 
In terms of raw stimulant potency, the most powerful PWO I have ever had was OG MAN Sports Game Day. 1/2 scoop was enough to get me tweaking out hardcore...and not in a good way. I think my one and only tub lasted me well over a year with intermittent use. That, or it may have just sat in my supplement stash and eventually evaporated out of my life. Either way, it was not anything that was conducive to working out.

Original Prodigy did that to me..
 
That was a nice product, and it was fairly potent but I built up a tolerance to it pretty quickly. The new one looks like a very respectable formula!

That I haven't tried yet
 
bloodshot by vein that stuff was messed up (pretty sure it was pulled because of something with the scoop damn near double dosing dmaa big time)

God of rage....or i believe they re named it Rage...one of my favs..stim bomb
 
No one has mentioned SCHIZOPHRENIC PSYCHO? Havnt tried it myself but seems its worth mentioning here...have a couple of bottles ordered and on its way :)
 
OG Platinum Labs Defcon 1

By far, hands down, my favorite preworkout ever. I miss it so much
 
HyperMax XT is rated as one of the highest non-DMAA pre workouts on several sites. Recently, HyperMax XT was slightly reformulated and there is almost an extra gram in the energy boosting ingredients. It is now an open label, so you can see the amount of each ingredient as opposed to before, it was a prop blend. HyperMax XT was given those great reviews when the prop blend was one gram less, with that added gram of stimulants, it should be even better.
 
HyperMax XT is rated as one of the highest non-DMAA pre workouts on several sites. Recently, HyperMax XT was slightly reformulated and there is almost an extra gram in the energy boosting ingredients. It is now an open label, so you can see the amount of each ingredient as opposed to before, it was a prop blend. HyperMax XT was given those great reviews when the prop blend was one gram less, with that added gram of stimulants, it should be even better.
Yeah Priceplow said works great every time, no different reactions like other PWOs and no noticeable tolerance.
I think it's due to PEA and Eria. Not sure if Hordenine effects it too but probably because has some synergy with caffeine too (in addition to prolonging PEA).
 
Mesomorph had me skipping workouts to stare at the ceiling in bed. That **** was too much for me
Odd...it just made me want to go to bed. Same with my friend who was a stimulant virgin, I gave him a sample and he completely forgot that he even took anything.
 
Odd...it just made me want to go to bed. Same with my friend who was a stimulant virgin, I gave him a sample and he completely forgot that he even took anything.

Maybe the FDA is raiding Hi Tech because they're mad that the new DMAA isn't the same as the OG version.
 
not sure what was different in V3 but to me V4 was no comparison to V3.

I thought I was the only one, but the previous versions of katana went like this:

A mental buzz with tunnel vision/alertness/mood boost

V4:
Average


But I did notice during the times of the previous versions of katana, that those products that also had CDP-choline provided the same type of buzz. Maybe contamination on the supplier side? But I would think cognizin would be 100% contamination free
 

Previous versions of katana:
30 serves @ 1 scoop, 1 scoop being max dosage
230mg caffeine
500mg cognizin
Etc.


Katana v4:
40 servings @ 1 scoop, 20 @ 2, with 2 scoops being max serving size

1 scoop = 115mg caff, 250mg cognizin, etc
Double that and you have the same amount of ingredients as previous versions, with some ingredients having more



Btw hi Daniel, it's damon from da other place my man
 
I thought I was the only one, but the previous versions of katana went like this:

A mental buzz with tunnel vision/alertness/mood boost

V4:
Average


But I did notice during the times of the previous versions of katana, that those products that also had CDP-choline provided the same type of buzz. Maybe contamination on the supplier side? But I would think cognizin would be 100% contamination free

ditto.. with V3 my focus, mood boost and aggression were on a different level and the effects never changed for the entire tub. V4 = meh
 
Previous versions of katana:
30 serves @ 1 scoop, 1 scoop being max dosage
230mg caffeine
500mg cognizin
Etc.


Katana v4:
40 servings @ 1 scoop, 20 @ 2, with 2 scoops being max serving size

1 scoop = 115mg caff, 250mg cognizin, etc
Double that and you have the same amount of ingredients as previous versions, with some ingredients having more



Btw hi Daniel, it's damon from da other place my man
Hey hey. That makes sense now, but looking at the panel at retailer sites I had not seen a "2 scoop max serving size" for v4 and 1 scoop being the serving.
 
I've got a new contender in my favorite pw right now up there with Kraken and Reign. Just received Arez in "Energy Drink" and took it for the first time today.

The flavor was mediocre, sorta had a pineapple type thing going on. I guess they were trying to make it taste similar to Red Bull based on the picture on the front.

Energy and focus were pretty strong and smooth. I also had a pretty heavy sweat going on. Very close to the same feeling I had with Reign.
 
Hydrazine hasnt been mentioned and should be up there as ine of the strongest. Was very strong with 2 capsules mixed with a non stim pump preworkout for many workouts but unfortunately ive built up a tolerance to it so taking a break.
I love Hydrazine too !
I am on my 2nd bottle. I took about 6 months break after i finished my 1st bottle.
I took 2 caps Hydrazine and 1 scoop Quake this morning. Hit me like a train!
 
Greatest PWS ever
OG Dust Extreme (30 servings not 25)
OG Ntel Pharma Arez Black (50 servings now discontinued)
OL Reign

NB. I mixed one full serving of Nutra Bio Pre Extreme (Comes with 15g of Carbs) and one scoop of Reign. BEST WORKOUT EVER. My workout just went on and on and on and had full focus throughout. I bought two tubs in each.
But my best singular PW ever, I'd have to say OG Arez Black.
 
Greatest PWS ever
OG Dust Extreme (30 servings not 25)
OG Ntel Pharma Arez Black (50 servings now discontinued)
OL Reign

NB. I mixed one full serving of Nutra Bio Pre Extreme (Comes with 15g of Carbs) and one scoop of Reign. BEST WORKOUT EVER. My workout just went on and on and on and had full focus throughout. I bought two tubs in each.
But my best singular PW ever, I'd have to say OG Arez Black.

I also love the OG Dust Extreme and OG Arez Black. Give the new Arez white container a shot. High energy and good focus. Focus isn't as good as the OG Black but still respectable.
 
I also love the OG Dust Extreme and OG Arez Black. Give the new Arez white container a shot. High energy and good focus. Focus isn't as good as the OG Black but still respectable.
I've had both the new reformulated arez white and black with NTEL Pharma's pump product for the past month. Have not yet tried them. Still looking for tubs of OG Arez black.
 
I've had both the new reformulated arez white and black with NTEL Pharma's pump product for the past month. Have not yet tried them. Still looking for tubs of OG Arez black.
Came up right away for me for sale, pretty popular place. Was their 2 versions of Black? This is in a black container.
***Edit*** ah yes the OG had Noopept & 1,3
 
Came up right away for me for sale, pretty popular place. Was their 2 versions of Black? This is in a black container.
***Edit*** ah yes the OG had Noopept & 1,3
Yes. The new Arez Black is in a black container. You know anywhere that still has a few tubs of the OG Arez Black?
 
Yes. The new Arez Black is in a black container. You know anywhere that still has a few tubs of the OG Arez Black?

Have to do some serious digging...more than likely no mainstream supp online retailers have it or if they do they won't advertise it. Honestly to find some of the good ones...you need to look at German or Russian supplement websites. They still have some of the good ones that were either banned or discontinued here. Russian supp websites have some crazy azz f'in pre's...nothing you can get here.
 
Have to do some serious digging...more than likely no mainstream supp online retailers have it or if they do they won't advertise it. Honestly to find some of the good ones...you need to look at German or Russian supplement websites. They still have some of the good ones that were either banned or discontinued here. Russian supp websites have some crazy azz f'in pre's...nothing you can get here.
Yeah. I saw the OG Arez on several Russian sites but my issues are the language barrier and the fact that I don't know if I can trust putting my C.card on a Russian site. Know dam well sure will I get nowhere if they took money and not send item and I wanted issue resolved.
 
Yeah. I saw the OG Arez on several Russian sites but my issues are the language barrier and the fact that I don't know if I can trust putting my C.card on a Russian site. Know dam well sure will I get nowhere if they took money and not send item and I wanted issue resolved.
Take my word for it, don't give Russians your CC info. A lot are suspect.
 
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Yeah. I saw the OG Arez on several Russian sites but my issues are the language barrier and the fact that I don't know if I can trust putting my C.card on a Russian site. Know dam well sure will I get nowhere if they took money and not send item and I wanted issue resolved.

I'll let you know...I have a query out with a place in the states that might have some pre's that can't be advertised...or at least they advertise "stuff they have they cannot list on the site" lol. We'll see.
 
I'll let you know...I have a query out with a place in the states that might have some pre's that can't be advertised...or at least they advertise "stuff they have they cannot list on the site" lol. We'll see.
Any results as yet? Interested to see whats out there.
 
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