Q&A FOR RE1GN

carguy123 said:
But some people are 2 scooping the other flavors with no issue, yet 1.5 or 1 scoop of DM is knocking people on their butts. This does not compute to me. Not trying to come off rude or start anything just having a hard time wrapping my head around this. So could the entire stim blend be off by a factor of +/-10%, or just 1 ingredient? And even at 10% difference thats not making sense as to the thresholds people are having issues with. IDK maybe Im just out in left field here
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The way I initially interpreted this 10% margin of error was this;

The entire blend can be off by 10%. So let's say 10 grams "could" have up to an additional 1 gram (total 11grams).

If there is anywhere up to an additional gram of the Energy Matrix, that would potentially make it as high as 1,678 mg rather than just 678 mg. That would definitely make a notable impact!

In other words, for this example, the 1,678 mg Energy Matrix accounts for the batch being off by 10%.

Bottom line, I really don't know how it works so I could be way off base..:confused:
 
Ricky10 said:
Guess what came today! I was quite impressed with the results..

On top of that, when I got home this evening there were two tubs of ISee Fury on my doorstep. I suspect I will be lifting tomorrow, so I will be sure to post some comments about that experience as well!
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Soo you were diligent and didn't go in for the full scoops from the get go?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Soo you were diligent and didn't go in for the full scoops from the get go?
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I was just being "playful" (for lack of a better word) in my prior post..

I will not be trying RE1GN at all until tomorrow as I was away all day today. Assuming that I am not too hungover, I will be taking it for a spin tomorrow. I suspect I will start at 1.5 scoops. If not....it will be two. My stim tolerance is the highest it has ever been right now...
 
Ricky10 said:
I was just being "playful" (for lack of a better word)

I will not be trying RE1GN at all until tomorrow as I was away all day today. Assuming that I am not too hungover, I will be taking it for a spin tomorrow. I suspect I will start at 1.5 scoops. If not....it will be two. My stim tolerance is the highest it has ever been right now...
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Do NOT take this on a hangover haha. Made that mistake a couple of days ago and it's not an experience I ever want to repeat
 
Log3k said:
Do NOT take this on a hangover haha. Made that mistake a couple of days ago and it's not an experience I ever want to repeat
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I think I will be OK to proceed. I am drinking lost of fluids right now...if I get a good night sleep I should be GTG!
 
Internationals: Australia

UPS mail innovations international

I looked it up, no tracking. It says priority tho on the shipment information.

Judging by the website it could arrive 4-8 days? Otherwise 7-14 days. I'm wondering since it says priority tho, and express if anyone has received?

Shipment information was 03/08

Thus could arrive today or tomorrow, otherwise it may be 7-14 days which would be next week.

Last time I ordered with Suppz, it had tracking. This time it doesn't, yet says express/priority.

Hate waiting ?, it would be fun for shoulders tomorrow!
 
Ricky10 said:
I was just being "playful" (for lack of a better word) in my prior post..

I will not be trying RE1GN at all until tomorrow as I was away all day today. Assuming that I am not too hungover, I will be taking it for a spin tomorrow. I suspect I will start at 1.5 scoops. If not....it will be two. My stim tolerance is the highest it has ever been right now...
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People talk about their stim tolerance, but, remember, this has a new stim in it that you have zero former experience with. Don't be surprised if you are better off with less than the max of 2 scoops
 
janson_kaniaz said:
Like I said I'm not looking for a fight and I'm also not expecting any rep to reply to my post.

You have a tougher job to do now than replying to me and that is to get an answer for the discrepancies.
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You received it from the owner himself, and FYI most people don't take it well when they're being accused of lying/ being dishonest.
 
Farlesworth said:
People talk about their stim tolerance, but, remember, this has a new stim in it that you have zero former experience with. Don't be surprised if you are better off with less than the max of 2 scoops
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Very true...and I definitely have considered that. 1.5 scoops is what I will do....

EDIT:

Ugh..who am I kidding? I can't promise that....it may end up being 2. I do appreciate the heads up though..
 
Another very entertaining evening in this Olympic Labs thread and I've contacted Hollywood and this might
be up for an academy award for the BEST DRAMA of 2017 and there's nothing in the theater playing now
that comes even close to this one.;)
 
AdelV said:
Internationals: Australia

UPS mail innovations international

I looked it up, no tracking. It says priority tho on the shipment information.

Judging by the website it could arrive 4-8 days? Otherwise 7-14 days. I'm wondering since it says priority tho, and express if anyone has received?

Shipment information was 03/08

Thus could arrive today or tomorrow, otherwise it may be 7-14 days which would be next week.

Last time I ordered with Suppz, it had tracking. This time it doesn't, yet says express/priority.

Hate waiting , it would be fun for shoulders tomorrow!
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I've had no tracking at all since it is as shipped

The number doesn't work
 
Reason we told everyone to take this chilled or iced is because there is vaso6 in this product which is extracted from green tea, so the coolness makes a day/night difference

We could have released this without vaso6 but then we wouldn't be innovative nor would the performance be great. There is more info coming out on how this ingredient converts to 50% nitric oxide.

We weren't kidding when we were saying we had new kickass flavoring on the way, but if we had not included vaso6 the same people who are mentioning bitter and tea like after taste would be saying, "but what innovation"?

This pre tastes as great as great can be and is leaps and years beyond conqu3r, and to say the least endur3 and tr1umph will be significantly better since there are no bitter stims or ings like vaso6 in there.
 
Workout # 2 with Re1gn today - I did 1.5 scoops of Krusherz which was delicious. Tastes very close to Orange Crush Soda - I finally got where the name came from. I shook the tub vigorously a few times again to make sure it was evenly mixed. Was definitely better tasting with no aftertaste at all and smoother than Area 51 in terms of energy. Not hot flashes or sweating more than I normally do unlike Monday which was pretty intense at first but still nothing to complain about. Pump was really good today as well as the focus. Feel a little more wired than I did yesterday and it's 7 hours after I took it so without part of a sleep aid I might have a tough time getting to sleep. I definitely think if you eat beforehand you should have no problems with the stims which for me was about 1.5 hours. Very happy so far with the product - just glad I didn't get DM. Would definitely rate Krusherz over Area 51 for now.
 
The Area 51 flavor is being changed to a sour flavor...this is what you guys want right?
 
Q&A FOR RE1GN

Olympus Labs said:
The Area 51 flavor is being changed to a sour flavor...this is what you guys want right?
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I would wait abit longer to allow international customers to express reviews and feedback..

I do not remember anyone who bought all the flavours providing full review on each flavour alone. Maybe you guys should make some sAmples even if it will cost..
 
Olympus Labs said:
It's interesting to say the least that a lot of people think DM is stronger than the other 4 flavors, and some simply think its the same, all flavors are batched and mixed separately. In GMP, there is a margin of error that manufacturers are allowed, which is 10% underage or 10% overage. We have the ability to screen whether or not the ingredients meet label claims but remember 10% overage would or could make a tremendous difference in perception of pre-workout especially with the heavy stim blend we've concocted.

To say the very least we are looking into installing a method that will allow us to minimize the overage of at least the stimulant proportion of the formula going fwd so the experience is more uniform across the board.

The first batch is sold out and we are already running the second with the new internal screening method to make sure DM is of equivalent strength to the other flavors and that the overage is <1%

That 10% that we the manufacturer are allowed may just be the difference and determining factor at play here, but as i've stated above we'll make sure it's less than 1% going fwd.
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Im going to ask this for the 4th or 5th time ITT....Im not sure why this keeps getting danced around but I will continue to ask until someone addresses it.

What exactly does this +/-10% mean? 10% of what exactly? Can someone explain this please.

Am I the only curious about this? or not comprehending exactly what this means?
 
carguy123 said:
Im going to ask this for the 4th or 5th time ITT....Im not sure why this keeps getting danced around but I will continue to ask until someone addresses it.

What exactly does this +/-10% mean? 10% of what exactly? Can someone explain this please.

Am I the only curious about this? or not comprehending exactly what this means?
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He just explained what all supplements produced in a GMP facility have a tolerance of +/- 10% of each individual ingredient amount. This isn't solely relating to RE1GN, but all supplements which arent produced in someones bath tub.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
He just explained what all supplements produced in a GMP facility have a tolerance of +/- 10% of each individual ingredient amount. This isn't solely relating to RE1GN, but all supplements which arent produced in someones bath tub.
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People produce supps in a bathtub?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
He just explained what all supplements produced in a GMP facility have a tolerance of +/- 10% of each individual ingredient amount. This isn't solely relating to RE1GN, but all supplements which arent produced in someones bath tub.
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If anyone needs a further breakdown ...
The mfg doesn't get a 'matrix' weight to work with, they know the exact dose of each ingredient.

So if Stim-X is at X mg in the blend +/- 10% of X not the total blend or tub weight.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
He just explained what all supplements produced in a GMP facility have a tolerance of +/- 10% of each individual ingredient amount. This isn't solely relating to RE1GN, but all supplements which arent produced in someones bath tub.
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So this means every stim could be off by a factor of 10%? I could see where this could compound into a real issue if that is the case. Also I completely understand this is a GMP tolerance that has been deemed acceptable . But other than Craze (not comparing re1gn to craze, just the only instance I can think of) I have never experienced or seen feedback where a particular flavor of a product is noticeable and substantially stronger than another flavor.

So lets break it down. Lets say the entire stim blend is off by 10%. 670mg stim blend at 10% overage = 737mg. This is equivalent to the amount of stims in a ~5.5g serving of reign. Am I looking at this incorrectly? Legit trying to learn over here :)
 
carguy123 said:
So this means every stim could be off by a factor of 10%? I could see where this could compound into a real issue if that is the case. Also I completely understand this is a GMP tolerance that has been deemed acceptable . But other than Craze (not comparing re1gn to craze, just the only instance I can think of) I have never experienced or seen feedback where a particular flavor of a product is noticeable and substantially stronger than another flavor.

So lets break it down. Lets say the entire stim blend is off by 10%. 670mg stim blend at 10% overage = 737mg. This is equivalent to the amount of stims in a ~5.5g serving of reign. Am I looking at this incorrectly? Legit trying to learn over here :)
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That is the way I see it now too, as opposed to my prior interpretation..
 
carguy123 said:
So this means every stim could be off by a factor of 10%? I could see where this could compound into a real issue if that is the case. Also I completely understand this is a GMP tolerance that has been deemed acceptable . But other than Craze (not comparing re1gn to craze, just the only instance I can think of) I have never experienced or seen feedback where a particular flavor of a product is noticeable and substantially stronger than another flavor.

So lets break it down. Lets say the entire stim blend is off by 10%. 670mg stim blend at 10% overage = 737mg. This is equivalent to the amount of stims in a ~5.5g serving of reign. Am I looking at this incorrectly? Legit trying to learn over here :)
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That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it...
Say you have 100mg of caffeine, +/- 10mg ain't a huge difference. More potent stims are dosed lower of course so their deltas are proportional.

To say the stim blend in RE1GN could be off by 67mg is technically correct but misleading because then you say oh look at the potent stims in there I could be getting 67mg of that which is FALSE
 
GNO said:
That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it...
Say you have 100mg of caffeine, +/- 10mg ain't a huge difference. More potent stims are dosed lower of course so their deltas are proportional.

To say the stim blend in RE1GN could be off by 67mg is technically correct but misleading because then you say oh look at the potent stims in there I could be getting 67mg of that which is FALSE
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But then that doesn't explain the difference in people dosing Dragons mist that have tried other flavors as it does seem "significant"... Do you agree?
 
Godstrength said:
But then that doesn't explain the difference in people dosing Dragons mist that have tried other flavors as it does seem "significant"... Do you agree?
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Look I'm not calling anyone a liar but some people tend to exaggerate. You ever eat a bag of chips and say 'damn tasted so salty' and then look at the label and was the same as other flavours you usually eat. Some things just feel different and we exaggerate that difference.

Sometimes you get an extra hour of sleep, have an extra donut, go workout and 'feel' like you 'crushed it!'. In hindsight I only got a couple extra reps than normal or so not huge but just felt great. That's my take on it.

If it feels too strong for you, then it's too strong for you. Try taking a lower dosage or you can contact me or another rep privately for other options.
 
carguy123 said:
So this means every stim could be off by a factor of 10%? I could see where this could compound into a real issue if that is the case. Also I completely understand this is a GMP tolerance that has been deemed acceptable . But other than Craze (not comparing re1gn to craze, just the only instance I can think of) I have never experienced or seen feedback where a particular flavor of a product is noticeable and substantially stronger than another flavor.

So lets break it down. Lets say the entire stim blend is off by 10%. 670mg stim blend at 10% overage = 737mg. This is equivalent to the amount of stims in a ~5.5g serving of reign. Am I looking at this incorrectly? Legit trying to learn over here :)
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Yes, if somehow some way every single stimulant ingredient was a full 10% over, a ~5g serving (basically, one scoop) would yield the stimulant equivalent of a ~5.5g serving per the label. In other words, worst case given a 10% margin, is...10% more stims, yes?


At least that's how it seems to me.
 
GNO said:
Look I'm not calling anyone a liar but some people tend to exaggerate. You ever eat a bag of chips and say 'damn tasted so salty' and then look at the label and was the same as other flavours you usually eat. Some things just feel different and we exaggerate that difference.

Sometimes you get an extra hour of sleep, have an extra donut, go workout and 'feel' like you 'crushed it!'. In hindsight I only got a couple extra reps than normal or so not huge but just felt great. That's my take on it.

If it feels too strong for you, then it's too strong for you. Try taking a lower dosage or you can contact me or another rep privately for other options.
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I understand what your saying but I don't think we can say that's the case here. I mean these are our beloved am members being honest about dragon mist being considerably stronger. One thing I love about this forum is the honesty about products. I'm a call a spade a spade guy.

I have been on this forum since OL first came out. They put out great pro hormones and were top notch quality. Then they added the UK line which was really good. Then I also witnessed them evolve with the times. They have always put,out top notch products, really stellar company. I think that you guys are one of the best in the supp industry no doubt.

I also think there is a possibility that you guys were behind on the production of Reign and experiencing a lot of pressure from the consumer due to pushed back release dates. There's probably a good chance that production was rushed and there was possibly some qc issues. Would you say these are fair statements? I understand and believe fully that you guys will investigate and figure it out and adjust accordingly, bc OL is a great company.

That being said I understand PR. So at the end of the day if you guys goofed up I don't understand why you wouldn't just come out and be honest. But I also know that's there is the almighty dollar at stake which at the end of the day is the reason why business is business. I think we live in a society today where no one wants to take ownership and say
" you know what, I did it it was an error on my part. Going forward I hope to make it right and ask for forgiveness"

I think its unfair to tell the consumer their reviews are "exaggerated" and to pm a rep, contact distributor or just lower your dose. Love OL, but its obvious to me you guys goofed.

And seriously GNO I respect you and OL
 
carguy123 said:
But other than Craze (not comparing re1gn to craze, just the only instance I can think of) I have never experienced or seen feedback where a particular flavor of a product is noticeable and substantially stronger than another flavor.
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Alphamine. I remember people swearing up and down certain flavors were more potent.
 
Godstrength said:
I understand what your saying but I don't think we can say that's the case here. I mean these are our beloved am members being honest about dragon mist being considerably stronger. One thing I love about this forum is the honesty about products. I'm a call a spade a spade guy.

I have been on this forum since OL first came out. They put out great pro hormones and were top notch quality. Then they added the UK line which was really good. Then I also witnessed them evolve with the times. They have always put,out top notch products, really stellar company. I think that you guys are one of the best in the supp industry no doubt.

I also think there is a possibility that you guys were behind on the production of Reign and experiencing a lot of pressure from the consumer due to pushed back release dates. There's probably a good chance that production was rushed and there was possibly some qc issues. Would you say these are fair statements? I understand and believe fully that you guys will investigate and figure it out and adjust accordingly, bc OL is a great company.

That being said I understand PR. So at the end of the day if you guys goofed up I don't understand why you wouldn't just come out and be honest. But I also know that's there is the almighty dollar at stake which at the end of the day is the reason why business is business. I think we live in a society today where no one wants to take ownership and say
" you know what, I did it it was an error on my part. Going forward I hope to make it right and ask for forgiveness"

I think its unfair to tell the consumer their reviews are "exaggerated" and to pm a rep, contact distributor or just lower your dose. Love OL, but its obvious to me you guys goofed.

And seriously GNO I respect you and OL
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Its also possible you're completely wrong.


And its not unfair to tell people they exaggerate on the internet. People lie their ass every single day here and to sit here and tell OL what you think might have happen based on a couple people's expert testimony is also extremely unfair.
 
Godstrength said:
I understand what your saying but I don't think we can say that's the case here. I mean these are our beloved am members being honest about dragon mist being considerably stronger. One thing I love about this forum is the honesty about products. I'm a call a spade a spade guy.

I have been on this forum since OL first came out. They put out great pro hormones and were top notch quality. Then they added the UK line which was really good. Then I also witnessed them evolve with the times. They have always put,out top notch products, really stellar company. I think that you guys are one of the best in the supp industry no doubt.

I also think there is a possibility that you guys were behind on the production of Reign and experiencing a lot of pressure from the consumer due to pushed back release dates. There's probably a good chance that production was rushed and there was possibly some qc issues. Would you say these are fair statements? I understand and believe fully that you guys will investigate and figure it out and adjust accordingly, bc OL is a great company.

That being said I understand PR. So at the end of the day if you guys goofed up I don't understand why you wouldn't just come out and be honest. But I also know that's there is the almighty dollar at stake which at the end of the day is the reason why business is business. I think we live in a society today where no one wants to take ownership and say
" you know what, I did it it was an error on my part. Going forward I hope to make it right and ask for forgiveness"

I think its unfair to tell the consumer their reviews are "exaggerated" and to pm a rep, contact distributor or just lower your dose. Love OL, but its obvious to me you guys goofed.

And seriously GNO I respect you and OL
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Bottom line is we are investigating and taking corrective actions.

The reviews are not all consistent is my point. I don't think it's disingenuous to suggest you contact me direct directly if you have a concern. Trying to help is all, last I'll post on it.
 
GNO said:
Bottom line is we are investigating and take by corrective actions.

The reviews are not all consistent is my point. I don't think it's disingenuous to suggest you contact me direct directly if you have a concern. Trying to help is all, last I'll post on it.
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Thank you, no worries bro... Y'all are alright in my book regardless. The companies history trumps anything here.
 
Godstrength said:
Of course, I don't know everything
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Yes but you sure painted a story in which you know people will now believe as the truth...and for good measure even insinuated they are not saying anything because of the almighty dollar.

And you want to talk about being unfair?

They might..its possible...it could...and the dollar. Seriously?
 
Admin said:
Yes but you sure painted a story in which you know people will now believe as the truth...and for good measure even insinuated they are not saying anything because of the almighty dollar.

And you want to talk about being unfair?

They might..its possible...it could...and the dollar. Seriously?
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Why will they believe it... unless its plausible. I stated what I think, not a fact. People are entitled to think for themselves correct? Would you agree they're are inconsistencies here from your own forum members on the product consistency? If we can't express that here then I'm wasting my time
 
It is also possible that even though it was produced in a GMP facility, the stim x ingredient could be slightly higher then the allowed 10% margin. It does happen and it could very well be the case. Personally, I think the 10% margin is high enough to cause the overstimulation in the DM flavor.
 
Godstrength said:
Why will they believe it... unless its plausible. I stated what I think, not a fact. People are entitled to think for themselves correct? Would you agree they're are inconsistencies here from your own forum members on the product consistency? If we can't express that here then I'm wasting my time
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Wait..are you actually asking me why people would believe something on the internet?

There is a difference between what you can do and what you should do. You can think anything you want. But when you come on here, create an entire scenario based on a few people's experiences then tell someone else they are being unfair, I have to laugh.

If I owned OL I would have told you to go F yourself and I don't need your business...coming in here and telling me that I goofed up, lied about it because of the money based on a few people's experiences. I don't get the same feeling out of my daily cup of coffee yet you're willing to crucify them based off a few people. Its amazing.
 
Admin said:
Wait..are you actually asking me why people would believe something on the internet?

There is a difference between what you can do and what you should do. You can think anything you want. But when you come on here, create an entire scenario based on a few people's experiences then tell someone else they are being unfair, I have to laugh.

If I owned OL I would have told you to go F yourself and I don't need your business...coming in here and telling me that I goofed up, lied about it because of the money based on a few people's experiences. I don't get the same feeling out of my daily cup of coffee yet you're willing to crucify them based off a few people. Its amazing.
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That's why you run a board and not a business brother. Nobody crucified them I think I was fair and courteous.
 
Godstrength said:
That's why you run a board and not a business brother. Nobody crucified them I think I was fair and courteous.
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Its amazing what little you know.

Yes, telling them they might be lying because its a business and they have to protect their money is being real fair...based on...a few people on a forum. Thank God you aren't on a jury.
 
GNO said:
Bottom line is we are investigating and taking corrective actions.

The reviews are not all consistent is my point. I don't think it's disingenuous to suggest you contact me direct directly if you have a concern. Trying to help is all, last I'll post on it.
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Is the factory in USA, where it located? Hope not a secret
 
Admin said:
Its amazing what little you know.

Yes, telling them they might be lying because its a business and they have to protect their money is being real fair...based on...a few people on a forum. Thank God you aren't on a jury.
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I never said anyone was lieing those are your words. That's twice you've thrown that out there. I'm speaking about damage control and public relations... Oh but I know so little about that lol
 
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