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Admin said:
Farleworth, If you actually think all opinions are let go there, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
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Admin, I think that if people suspected there was a flavor variance within the first run of Reign, they would say so (and have said so, in fact) and it wouldn't be a problem. I suppose I can pay attention to those posts and posters and see if they disappear or something, but that would be rather weird and unexpected

GNO said:
Don't believe that comment was in regards to an OL product so please do not post in our subforum. Thanks
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Sorry, admin is getting me off topic

It was definitely not a comment regarding an OL product. That was a MT product, edited for clarity
 
Farlesworth said:
Admin, I think that if people suspected there was a flavor variance within the first run of Reign, they would say so (and have said so, in fact) and it wouldn't be a problem. I suppose I can pay attention to those posts and posters and see if they disappear or something, but that would be rather weird and unexpected





Sorry, admin is getting me off topic

It was definitely not a comment regarding an OL product. That was a MT product, edited for clarity
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My comment had nothing to do with OL, but you're general statement about posts. I know the history there and the supplement world is a very small revolving door with the same people. I know how and why posts get removed and users get removed over there. I know why company owners get removed. I know why certain brands are not allowed to be discussed. Its not the same there as everywhere else and for good reason...we don't do 200-500 million plus in sales revenue. I don't have a store and I don't have house brands to protect and promote. Its not the same. Not even close.
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
In my experience it seems DM has twice the amount of stims on a gram for gram basis than A51.
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if that is in fact the case, that would explain why I felt like I was going to die taking 2 scoops of DM vs 2 scoops of A51. More like getting 4 scoops of DM.
 
Antv1001 said:
if that is in fact the case, that would explain why I felt like I was going to die taking 2 scoops of DM vs 2 scoops of A51. More like getting 4 scoops of DM.
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That's the part that always stood out to me, is how taking less of DM has such strong negative impact on me, than more of A51.

It doesn't make sense, it's the same product, same ingredients, same everything (as far as main components) but they elicit polar opposite effects.

But again, this is just my experience. Not saying this is or will be the case for everyone else
 
Antv1001 said:
if that is in fact the case, that would explain why I felt like I was going to die taking 2 scoops of DM vs 2 scoops of A51. More like getting 4 scoops of DM.
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m1k3_d0z4 said:
That's the part that always stood out to me, is how taking less of DM has such strong negative impact on me, than more of A51.

It doesn't make sense, it's the same product, same ingredients, same everything (as far as main components) but they elicit polar opposite effects.

But again, this is just my experience. Not saying this is or will be the case for everyone else
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easy guys...let's not be ridiculous.
[sarcasm]
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
That's the part that always stood out to me, is how taking less of DM has such strong negative impact on me, than more of A51.

It doesn't make sense, it's the same product, same ingredients, same everything (as far as main components) but they elicit polar opposite effects.

But again, this is just my experience. Not saying this is or will be the case for everyone else
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This is why I questioned this +/- 10% a few posts back. I have not tried DM but based on what I have ready from user feedback it "seems" like its more than a 10% stim margin. Maybe I have finally went full potato
 
carguy123 said:
This is why I questioned this +/- 10% a few posts back. I have not tried DM but based on what I have ready from user feedback it "seems" like its more than a 10% stim margin. Maybe I have finally went full potato
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Not sure about percentages, but your questions/concerns are valid. All I know is DM is strong as **** and I'm not sure what to do with it. Even at a small dose the negatives will out way the positives and it will be in the back of my mind that DM will effect me in a negative way. It's not worth it to me.
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
Not sure about percentages, but your questions/concerns are valid. All I know is DM is strong as **** and I'm not sure what to do with it. Even at a small dose the negatives will out way the positives and it will be in the back of my mind that DM will effect me in a negative way. It's not worth it to me.
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Sell it in the supplement auction. I'll bet that it won't last a day.
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
Even if it's opened? I'm not familiar with selling supplements here..
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Yep. List it for what you paid and I'll be amazed if it lasts. Hell, you've probably already gotten pm's from others already.
 
SFreed said:
Yep. List it for what you paid and I'll be amazed if it lasts. Hell, you've probably already gotten pm's from others already.
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People love stims lol, that's a constant.

I may move my tub along as well. Not opened either. But if I move the tub of DM I'll literally have only 1 tub left out of the 5 I ordered lol.

Can we have BOGO when the second run comes out? I may need a couple more lol
 
Farlesworth said:
People love stims lol, that's a constant.

I may move my tub along as well. Not opened either. But if I move the tub of DM I'll literally have only 1 tub left out of the 5 I ordered lol.

Can we have BOGO when the second run comes out? I may need a couple more lol
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What happened to the other tubs you purchased?
 
What if, it's not DM that's overdosed but other flavors are underdosed? Until and unless we get a confirmation from their random tests no one can be quite sure if they are actually as per labeled.

Again, not looking for a fight. ✌️
 
Farlesworth said:
People love stims lol, that's a constant.

I may move my tub along as well. Not opened either. But if I move the tub of DM I'll literally have only 1 tub left out of the 5 I ordered lol.

Can we have BOGO when the second run comes out? I may need a couple more lol
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m1k3_d0z4 said:
What happened to the other tubs you purchased?
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Was wondering the same thing. If you've already been through 3 tubs, you probably have other issues.
 
Farlesworth said:
People love stims lol, that's a constant.

I may move my tub along as well. Not opened either. But if I move the tub of DM I'll literally have only 1 tub left out of the 5 I ordered lol.

Can we have BOGO when the second run comes out? I may need a couple more lol
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I know GNO mentioned it will be going on sale on another site soon. Maybe another BOGO, thats just me being optimistic ;)
 
janson_kaniaz said:
What if, it's not DM that's overdosed but other flavors are underdosed? Until and unless we get a confirmation from their random tests no one can be quite sure if they are actually as per labeled.

Again, not looking for a fight. ✌️
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Just pure speculation here, but I would guess more stim in DM than anythibg else being underdosed. People have commented on the pumps, so I would wager everything is gtg there.
 
janson_kaniaz said:
What if, it's not DM that's overdosed but other flavors are underdosed? Until and unless we get a confirmation from their random tests no one can be quite sure if they are actually as per labeled.

Again, not looking for a fight. ✌️
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i doubt there's any way of knowing, unless someone shells out the cash to test it.
 
janson_kaniaz said:
What if, it's not DM that's overdosed but other flavors are underdosed? Until and unless we get a confirmation from their random tests no one can be quite sure if they are actually as per labeled.

Again, not looking for a fight. ✌️
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What's more likely, one flavor being off or four?
Methinks it's the one flavor that is the issue, but that's just my reasoning.
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
What happened to the other tubs you purchased?
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Traded two of them, gifting one to my brother, one opened (Isee Fury), Dragons Mist in the fridge unopened. I got the 5 pack so I could read some flavor feedback before opening any (good thing too I thought Area 51 was going to be my first lol) and I figured that once reviews started coming in guys who didn't pre order would be looking to trade for one.

janson_kaniaz said:
What if, it's not DM that's overdosed but other flavors are underdosed? Until and unless we get a confirmation from their random tests no one can be quite sure if they are actually as per labeled.

Again, not looking for a fight. ✌️
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lol, I doubt it...way too much positive feedback on how strong and great it is for the others to be under dosed. I mean I guess technically the others could be that strong and be under but I'm thinking not.

SFreed said:
Was wondering the same thing. If you've already been through 3 tubs, you probably have other issues.
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lol, I can't imagine somebody having used very much yet it's been less than a week, I've seen people post that they've used like two scoops four different days which seems like a lot to me but I like seeing somebody post that and say it hasn't dropped off due to immediate tolerance buildup

I've had two scoops of isee fury one time (Friday)

carguy123 said:
I know GNO mentioned it will be going on sale on another site soon. Maybe another BOGO, thats just me being optimistic ;)
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I would like to share in that optimism

MidwestBeast said:
Just pure speculation here, but I would guess more stim in DM than anythibg else being underdosed. People have commented on the pumps, so I would wager everything is gtg there.
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Yup

BamBam0319 said:
What's more likely, one flavor being off or four?
Methinks it's the one flavor that is the issue, but that's just my reasoning.
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Also yes. With each flavor batching individually and possibly just one flavor being perceived as different from the others, that alone, regardless of the way in which it is different, says the -1- is what's off, not the 4 (if there is a difference in reality)
 
I gambled and took 1.5 DM this morning. Fasted, same as any of my other workouts. There are 2 differences:

- I take a 3mg AlphaBurn each morning. I did not take it Monday knowing I would be using Re1gn and knowing the feeling was similar to alpha-y. I DID take it on Sunday for my first workout (1.25 DM).

- Sunday, I went to church and then the gym. Still fasted, but started 3 hours later than usual. Perhaps that was enough time extra without food to play a role (e.g. I last ate around 7 PM each night prior).

1.5 scoops DM hit harder than 1.5 LB. HOWEVER, it was nowhere near what day 1 was with the 1.25 DM.

So, I'm thinking (in my case) the extra time without food and/or the addition of that 3mg alpha-y (though 3 hours prior) escalated the feelings.

Tomorrow I will crack open Area 51 and am going for 2 full scoops. It's high volume arm day for me, so I should really be able to put it to the test.

Depending on how that goes, I will likely take a break from Re1gn for a while and reassess. I normally rotate pre's and use a "heavy hitter" twice a week and something lighter the other 3 days. I've only used this the last 3 lifts in a row to help assess things for myself and hopefully others who are reading.
 
MidwestBeast I know it's only been a few days, but what are your thoughts so far in regards to the differences in flavors having different levels of stims? Not that I'm doubting others, scratch that. I'm doubting others reports, but have faith in an established member that I've dealt with many times in the past.
 
00A said:
Any international customers have tracking numbers that work??
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I bought Crimson from them the same time I placed my Re1gn BOGO. Took them 2 weeks to depart from the US alone. Only then the tracking started.

UPS needs to send the parcel to USPS for international shipping.
 
Ok. So I wanted to report back for feedback to OL and others.

Today I took Area 51 under the same body environments as I did for Lions Blood on Monday.
-2 scoops
-Empty Stomach
-1st thing in the morning around 4:15 AM after drinking my Ergonine at 4:05 AM.

Area 51 gave me chills and cold sweats again like it did on Friday, but Lions Blood did not have this effect on me.
The Focus, Energy, and Pump were the same!

I believe there may be some deviation in stim between these two flavors (the only ones I have), but I do not mind it. They both hit good. I also measured out the scoops at top level. It read 4g... so this means that I took 8g of both (not even the 10.5g serving size!), so I am really happy with this pre-workout... but now i want Dragons Mist!
 
janson_kaniaz said:
I bought Crimson from them the same time I placed my Re1gn BOGO. Took them 2 weeks to depart from the US alone. Only then the tracking started.

UPS needs to send the parcel to USPS for international shipping.
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Thanks for the info man, this definitly not good, will not order from them again if this is the case and it looks like it.. need more stores to start selling the product after the checks..
 
SFreed said:
MidwestBeast I know it's only been a few days, but what are your thoughts so far in regards to the differences in flavors having different levels of stims? Not that I'm doubting others, scratch that. I'm doubting others reports, but have faith in an established member that I've dealt with many times in the past.
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In my limited (3) trials, DM seems substantially harder hitting than LB. I plan to use A51 tomorrow to see what I experience.

Too little time to definitively say anything, but thats how it seems thus far.
 
I'm totally losing track of everything.

Couls someone list the apparent more potent flavors in an order.

I have a 5 pack on the way, I'm not sure what to use!
Happy to test 2 tubs, I was going to potentially palm off 1-2 and keep 3.

Doesn't look like they'll arrive this week anyways, definitely by next I assume.
 
AdelV said:
I'm totally losing track of everything.

Couls someone list the apparent more potent flavors in an order.

I have a 5 pack on the way, I'm not sure what to use!
Happy to test 2 tubs, I was going to potentially palm off 1-2 and keep 3.

Doesn't look like they'll arrive this week anyways, definitely by next I assume.
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I think enough people have suggested that Dragons Mist is stronger we can believe there is something to that.

I don't think there is enough, consistently, on others to suspect anything else. I've seen some hint at isee fury being 'weaker' but I took 2 scoops (10g) of isee fury Friday and there is no way I would use the word weak or any derivative thereof to describe it. However, that's the only one I've had so I'm no use for actual data on differences, if any, between flavors
 
AdelV said:
I'm totally losing track of everything.

Couls someone list the apparent more potent flavors in an order.

I have a 5 pack on the way, I'm not sure what to use!
Happy to test 2 tubs, I was going to potentially palm off 1-2 and keep 3.

Doesn't look like they'll arrive this week anyways, definitely by next I assume.
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DM seems to be the stim killer, for most people the other flavors all seem to be on point and not overkill. That's the consensus I'm getting and also my own experience.
 
Took 1.5 servings of I see fury today. This time I shook the container to mix the powder. Seems much better. No sides like 2 scoops did. Didn't feel like sh**!
 
Ok, so back to Re1gn, I am not hearing a lot of about Krusherz and Lion's Blood...

How is the flavoring with these two?

And also, where is the best place to purchase a tub of this now that the BOGO and 5 pack thing is over?
 
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TommyTuffGuy said:
Ok, so back to Re1gn, I am not hearing a lot of about Krusherz and Lion's Blood...

How is the flavoring with these two?

And also, where is the best place to purchase a tub of this now that the BOGO and 5 pack thing is over?
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I can only speak to Lions blood but I actually enjoyed it. 1.25 scoops in 10 oz of water +4 ice cubes was pleasant. Citrus/tropical flavor. Slightly bitter aftertaste but it wasn't bad per se.

Currently I think it's still on an exclusive with Suppz, but you can get it 50% off (I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong please)
 
Beta said:
I can only speak to Lions blood but I actually enjoyed it. 1.25 scoops in 10 oz of water +4 ice cubes was pleasant. Citrus/tropical flavor. Slightly bitter aftertaste but it wasn't bad per se.

Currently I think it's still on an exclusive with Suppz, but you can get it 50% off (I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong please)
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Oh ok I see it now, Buy one get one 50% off. I know I wanted to try Area 51 but just undecided on the other flavor..I'm a little Cherry'd out.
 
TommyTuffGuy said:
Ok, so back to Re1gn, I am not hearing a lot of about Krusherz and Lion's Blood...

How is the flavoring with these two?

And also, where is the best place to purchase a tub of this now that the BOGO and 5 pack thing is over?
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Of those 2 I prefer Krusherz. Both are decent, but Lions Blood has a little more noticeable aftertaste.
 
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Krusherz is decent if you allow it to fully dissolve and use cold water. still a small hint of "bitter butthole" (as someone else coined) at the end. but not bad. it's straight up orange.

currently, 2 scoops is a little much. cold sweats.
 
Will just say area 51 was pretty decent in ice cold water. 8g (so like 1.5 scoops ish) was the perfect amount for me, could actually have backed it down to 7g and would have been good. I thought Isee fury had a wicked after taste, but really need to revisit that one. Those are the only 2 I have tried so far
 
carguy123 said:
So regarding this +/- 10% in variance, is this by ingredient or by blend or ?? I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that +/-10% could really that big of a difference. Lets just say it was the stim-x that was over and just to use round numbers lets say you put 50mg of it in the blend. So worst case +10% would be 5mg so you could be looking at 55mg. That doesn't seem like enough to make the kind of difference people are experiencing. Maybe Im a potato and not trying to cause drama just trying to understand all of this.
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Rebumping my question since it may have gotten lost in the mayhem that was this thread this morning lol
 
I agree. 5mg isn't enough to make much of a difference. Maybe we need to shake the canisters up a bit to better consistency between scoops?
 
carguy123 said:
Rebumping my question since it may have gotten lost in the mayhem that was this thread this morning lol
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The 10% may be a huge different. Especially since the stim blend is 678mg and the stims work together to make it even more potent blend.
It could very well be that any +variance could push the blend to be above someones typical tolerance, but yea we wouldn't really know without any testing of the blend to benchmark values that they have recorded. For now we can just take less per serving.
 
Mowglisml said:
The 10% may be a huge different. Especially since the stim blend is 678mg and the stims work together to make it even more potent blend.
It could very well be that any +variance could push the blend to be above someones typical tolerance, but yea we wouldn't really know without any testing of the blend to benchmark values that they have recorded. For now we can just take less per serving.
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Yes without divulging info on our blend, you are absolutely correct. There are some ingredients where 1mg makes a night and day difference in this world
 
Olympus Labs said:
Yes without divulging info on our blend, you are absolutely correct. There are some ingredients where 1mg makes a night and day difference in this world
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But some people are 2 scooping the other flavors with no issue, yet 1.5 or 1 scoop of DM is knocking people on their butts. This does not compute to me. Not trying to come off rude or start anything just having a hard time wrapping my head around this. So could the entire stim blend be off by a factor of +/-10%, or just 1 ingredient? And even at 10% difference thats not making sense as to the thresholds people are having issues with. IDK maybe Im just out in left field here
 
let's think about this. we're talking a 10% increase over the other flavors (potentially). yet, users are feeling way more than a 10% increase.

it doesn't matter what is in the product. a 10% increase over the other flavors (which contain the exact same ingredients) should correlate to ~10ish% feelz.

however, if you do have something in there that could ramp up the potency that far with only a 10% increase in volume, you've taken a big risk with formulating and the error of its way is showing.
 
janson_kaniaz said:
Like I said I'm not looking for a fight and I'm also not expecting any rep to reply to my post.

You have a tougher job to do now than replying to me and that is to get an answer for the discrepancies.
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While everyone is entitled to their opinions and i am open to all positive and negative posts, writing sh1t like you do saying your not looking for a fight, is like me calling you an a*sehole but saying with all due respect first.
 
Guess what came today! I was quite impressed with the results..

On top of that, when I got home this evening there were two tubs of ISee Fury on my doorstep. I suspect I will be lifting tomorrow, so I will be sure to post some comments about that experience as well!
 
uforce said:
let's think about this. we're talking a 10% increase over the other flavors (potentially). yet, users are feeling way more than a 10% increase.

it doesn't matter what is in the product. a 10% increase over the other flavors (which contain the exact same ingredients) should correlate to ~10ish% feelz.

however, if you do have something in there that could ramp up the potency that far with only a 10% increase in volume, you've taken a big risk with formulating and the error of its way is showing.
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I had a few cookies pre-workout today and felt my blood sugar raise by 15.7%....true story
 
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