We want 5 Laxogenin 100 Loggers!

Yes but that's a different name not the brand name. What hi tech have done is call it Adidas when in fact, it's Gola being sold as Adidas.

Gotti, is hi tech pharma your dad?

I've touched on this subject so many times at this point its nauseating. If you don't like the use of our names (which we own the rights to mind you), you can either choose to not use the products, or do the smart thing and judge a product by its ingredients.

I hope you have a WONDERFUL day.
 
FWIW, I agree with you. I avoid HTP for exactly those reasons you have mentioned. Others may not have a problem with them, but, for me, it is an integrity issue.

Don't name your product after something that isn't even in the damn thing just to prey on the ignorant consumer. Because, in my opinion, that is exactly what they are doing.

You better be boycotting a ton of supplements out there then. Hi Tech has their hands in more than you can imagine. Guess the name really is all you care about.
 
FWIW, I agree with you. I avoid HTP for exactly those reasons you have mentioned. Others may not have a problem with them, but, for me, it is an integrity issue.

Don't name your product after something that isn't even in the damn thing just to prey on the ignorant consumer. Because, in my opinion, that is exactly what they are doing.
Kinda like joining a supplement logging opportunity for the company that you don't support just to bash/troll.....
 
Agreed, I don't think it's a culture thing though, just personal opinion. I'm American and I wouldn't purchase HTP products because of this. There are WAY too many ignorant and young people who just want results fast and don't care to do lots of research. If they even just Google "Anavar" then the results will be misleading. Is it their fault for being ignorant? Yes. But does a company need to exploit that ignorance and mislead them? Not in my opinion. To me it comes off as kinda a scumbag move (although smart from a financial standpoint). Maybe someone will come out with a product called "Testosterone Cypionate" and on the ingredient panel list "2-aminobutanedioic acid" aka DAA. BRB starting a company real quick

You certainly had enough desire to use HTP products to PM all of us reps saying how interested you are in logging then PMd me complaining you didn't get chosen.
 
Yes but that's a different name not the brand name. What hi tech have done is call it Adidas when in fact, it's Gola being sold as Adidas.

Gotti, is hi tech pharma your dad?
Why single out HTP, other than opinionated ignorance?

That logic doesn't even make sense.
 
You certainly had enough desire to use HTP products to PM all of us reps saying how interested you are in logging then PMd me complaining you didn't get chosen.

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People get mad at a name to protect all those too stupid to read a label. Very honorable and noble thing to do.

Person comes on AM asking if Ostaplex is a SARM. Same person ridicules the "noob" for being too stupid to read the label.



















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other than saying "judge a product based on the ingredients instead of the name...or don't use the product if you don't like the use of the name" I literally have no clue what response anyone can expect here.
 
Don't like it, don't buy it. Wait, this is a logging opportunity.
 
FWIW, I agree with you. I avoid HTP for exactly those reasons you have mentioned. Others may not have a problem with them, but, for me, it is an integrity issue.

Don't name your product after something that isn't even in the damn thing just to prey on the ignorant consumer. Because, in my opinion, that is exactly what they are doing.

You're going to have a need to avoid several brands then, more than several due to HTP buying out other companies. Your list is going to be very long indeed.
 
You're going to have a need to avoid several brands then, more than several due to HTP buying out other companies. Your list is going to be very long indeed.

dont forget we handle the manufacturing side of just about every company you see on the forums as well.
 
You certainly had enough desire to use HTP products to PM all of us reps saying how interested you are in logging then PMd me complaining you didn't get chosen.

I was bitter about the logging opportunity and took it out on the post. It was immature of me and I actually have purchased Hitech products in the past. Regardless, I apologize for my immaturity and I'll handle these situations better in the future. I will delete my previous post and I sincerely apologize for my conduct. Thanks for calling me on it.
 
I'd love to try 200mg of this. I read somewhere before that most lax products used in the supplement industry were actually diosgenin, hope this is the real McCoy
 
Looking to cut fat and maintain as much size and strength as possible. I am currently on my 3rd week. I would like to participate.
 
Do you have a time machine?
 
What I'm saying is they have no responsibility to name a product one way or another

Maybe I'm different but when I got into the gym, I bought a tub of superpump 250...used it for a few days and felt awesome then had to take a step back and looked up everything in it to see what was going in MY body

I can start a shoe company and name it Adidos and have 6 stripes.....if you go and buy them thinking it's Adidas then that's on You, not me

Wouldn't fancy your chances when Adidas takes you to court lol
 
Wouldn't fancy your chances when Adidas takes you to court lol

copyright infringement will get you in a lot of trouble, I agree.

The "questionable" names that this forum loves to harp on are fully owned by HTP, that's a big big difference.
 
You better be boycotting a ton of supplements out there then. Hi Tech has their hands in more than you can imagine. Guess the name really is all you care about.

Lol. Lots of assumptions going on in this post. I use very, very few supplements because most supplements don't make enough of a difference to justify the cost.
Kinda like joining a supplement logging opportunity for the company that you don't support just to bash/troll.....
Right....
Don't like it, don't buy it. Wait, this is a logging opportunity.
I completely agree with that. That is why I don't buy any of them.
copyright infringement will get you in a lot of trouble, I agree.

The "questionable" names that this forum loves to harp on are fully owned by HTP, that's a big big difference.
Is anyone saying you are infringing a copyright? Not that I've seen. All I've seen people say is that your company lacks integrity for doing it.
 
Here to see how 200mg does for results. I was excited to put my name in the hat but I was already lucky to log lipodrene elite so I thought someone else should experience a quality company. So those whining move on, those that won I am interested to see results.
 
Is anyone saying you are infringing a copyright? Not that I've seen. All I've seen people say is that your company lacks integrity for doing it.

well we appreciate your insight into the matter, in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with those products. Look forward to future interactions with you here on the forum.
 
Do we know when the logs will be starting? I'm incredibly excited to follow along from the beginning! Who knows, maybe if I save my pennies up this will be one natural product that really works for me in the future. Regardless, good luck to the winners! Y'all deserve the chance and I'll be reading along!
 
If nobody minds - all the other laxo products out there recommend 50 to 100mg max a day. Is that because they're chicken, or because you guys found a way to handle 200mg, or......
Thanks
 
Lol. Lots of assumptions going on in this post. I use very, very few supplements because most supplements don't make enough of a difference to justify the cost.

Right....

I completely agree with that. That is why I don't buy any of them.

Is anyone saying you are infringing a copyright? Not that I've seen. All I've seen people say is that your company lacks integrity for doing it.

You're not reading or just purposely ignoring. There were posts above Vaughn talking about people getting taken to court based on infringement.

Would you mind listing the few supplements that you use?
 
You're not reading or just purposely ignoring. There were posts above Vaughn talking about people getting taken to court based on infringement.

Would you mind listing the few supplements that you use?

Those posts were related to another poster's comments about making an Adidas offbrand product and trying to compare that to this. Perhaps you are the one who isn't reading.


Protein (generally PES or USPlabs)
Pre workout (generally USPlabs)
 
Do we know when the logs will be starting? I'm incredibly excited to follow along from the beginning! Who knows, maybe if I save my pennies up this will be one natural product that really works for me in the future. Regardless, good luck to the winners! Y'all deserve the chance and I'll be reading along!

I'd expect maybe in 2 weeks. Info got sent over, so it should likely go out in maybe a week if things go as planned with the warehouse. Then a week for transit time. Should be starting to see them pop up shortly after that.

If people end up having some good results, maybe we will do more logs in the future with Laxo.
 
I'd expect maybe in 2 weeks. Info got sent over, so it should likely go out in maybe a week if things go as planned with the warehouse. Then a week for transit time. Should be starting to see them pop up shortly after that.

If people end up having some good results, maybe we will do more logs in the future with Laxo.

That's awesome man! Looking forward to seeing everyone's journey!
 
What do you want me to elaborate on? The statement is pretty clear... Do you mean you would like to see some studies that qualify the statement?

I just dont get why most co recommend dosing 25, 50, 100 when 300 shows solid benefit
 
Honest I never saw 25.... Primeval listed on label 6 tabs a day 20 mgs a tab. 120 mgs. I've read a lot of sites recommending 200-300.. I think it was predator nutrition. I'll find the link.
 
Honest I never saw 25.... Primeval listed on label 6 tabs a day 20 mgs a tab. 120 mgs. I've read a lot of sites recommending 200-300.. I think it was predator nutrition. I'll find the link.

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For whatever it's worth..... It wasnt predator... 100-200. Advanced up to 300. Basically exactly what I was saying. I think the source is valid. Google 300 mg laxogenin you'll return some hits.
 
I'm just as excited about effects on joint pain...for a 50 year old guy..
 
I just dont get why most co recommend dosing 25, 50, 100 when 300 shows solid benefit

I think it probably has something to do with sticker shock of needing that much product... Although, I had great effects in 120mg for about 4-6 weeks. Was setting PRs in PCT after gaining 11lbs LBM on an LGD and trest cycle. So I related those PRs in PCT to the laxo...
 
I completely agree with that. That is why I don't buy any of them.

Not sure why you're in this thread then.
 
I just dont get why most co recommend dosing 25, 50, 100 when 300 shows solid benefit

300 mg is probably overkill for this product though right? I mean assuming their innovative delivery system to significantly increase bioavailability works, you shouldn't need as high of a dose compared to products with low bioavailability where 300 mg might be necessary to induce an effect.
 
Those posts were related to another poster's comments about making an Adidas offbrand product and trying to compare that to this. Perhaps you are the one who isn't reading.


Protein (generally PES or USPlabs)
Pre workout (generally USPlabs)

Those posts referred to copyright infringement and also was made by someone referencing copyright infringement that was not Vaughn. He responded to THAT post. What are you talking about?

You posted usplabs? 8 years ago yes, in 2017, not really.
 
I just dont get why most co recommend dosing 25, 50, 100 when 300 shows solid benefit

just like with other ingredients, a lot of companies underdose things. ESPECIALLY when the raw material is extremely expensive like Laxogenin is.


HTP is able to use a higher dose, with an advanced delivery system, and keep the price competitive because we control every aspect from raw material manufacturing, to product manufacturing, to sales distribution.
 
Those posts referred to copyright infringement and also was made by someone referencing copyright infringement that was not Vaughn. He responded to THAT post. What are you talking about?

You posted usplabs? 8 years ago yes, in 2017, not really.
Here, allow me to help you.

What I'm saying is they have no responsibility to name a product one way or another

I can start a shoe company and name it Adidos and have 6 stripes.....if you go and buy them thinking it's Adidas then that's on You, not me

Gotti makes original comment about starting a shoe company that infringes upon Adidas copyrights in an effort to defend HTP product names (lol).
Wouldn't fancy your chances when Adidas takes you to court lol
APC mentions the he cannot do that without being taken to court by Adidas (not related to HTP at all).
copyright infringement will get you in a lot of trouble, I agree.

The "questionable" names that this forum loves to harp on are fully owned by HTP, that's a big big difference.
Vaughn responds about copyright infringement which had only been mentioned in relation to Adidas. No claims had been made about HTP infringing copyrights.

Is anyone saying you are infringing a copyright? Not that I've seen. All I've seen people say is that your company lacks integrity for doing it.

I point out to VT that no one has said anything about HTP infringing on someone else's copyright.

You're not reading or just purposely ignoring. There were posts above Vaughn talking about people getting taken to court based on infringement.

Would you mind listing the few supplements that you use?

You say I can't read, presumably because there are posts about HTP infringing on someone's copyrights, and then ask about supplements that I use hoping you can get me in a "gotcha" moment.



Glad I could be of assistance.
 
Can we just focus on the logging opportunity for this product please? Super excited for updates and other information regarding Laxogenin. Are people looking to run 100 or 200 mg of this? If you run 200mg you'd only have a month's supply. I'm not sure how long this compound takes to produce an observable effect
 
Can we just focus on the logging opportunity for this product please? Super excited for updates and other information regarding Laxogenin. Are people looking to run 100 or 200 mg of this? If you run 200mg you'd only have a month's supply. I'm not sure how long this compound takes to produce an observable effect

we suggest people take the recommended dosing of 200mg/day for maximum effects.

Like the OP says, we will be providing some users with an extra bottle for an additional month of use to extend their cycle.
 
Can we just focus on the logging opportunity for this product please? Super excited for updates and other information regarding Laxogenin. Are people looking to run 100 or 200 mg of this? If you run 200mg you'd only have a month's supply. I'm not sure how long this compound takes to produce an observable effect

I've used it before (BPS asked me to log their version before they got bought out). It seemed to work pretty well at 100mg for the 8 weeks that the bottle lasted at that dose. I used it during a cut and was consistently hitting PR's in training while on a high protein/low carb/low fat diet.
 
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