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SUP3R DHEA Q&A

Angrypolak said:
Has anyone tried a bottle stopper and syringe instead of dumping the product into a secondary container.

Like this:

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Also, I got a blood panel back and hormones were low across the board. Suggestion was to supplement with DHEA and Pregnenalone. Would Sup3r DHEA be a good option since it covers both?

Link to my results:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/294727-need-feedback-lab.html#post5794987
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A bottle stopper and fitted oral syringe would work well providing you can find the correct size stopper. I found one from my local Rx that came with an oral antibiotic bottle. That method works very well. You could probably ask for a couple different sized stoppers and an oral syringe at a pharmacy counter. They cost next to nothing or might be free. Super DHEA will definitely increase your serum DHEA and Pregnenolone levels while supplementing with it.
 
u_e_s_i said:
What benefits would supplementing sup3r Dhea, whilst not on cycle or in pct, have?
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Typical benefits of DHEA supplementation:

-Lowers Inflammation. ...
-Helps Improve Bone Density and Muscle Mass. ...
-Protects Against Depression, Cognitive Decline and Mood Swings. ...
-Aids in Weight Loss and Building Muscle Mass. ...
-Improves Heart Health and Lowers Diabetes Risk. ...
-Decreases Sexual Dysfunction and Can Improve Libido.

Keep in mind that the extent or significance of these benefits will be higher for older males because DHEA levels naturally decline as we age.
 
Jebrook said:
Typical benefits of DHEA supplementation:

-Lowers Inflammation. ...
-Helps Improve Bone Density and Muscle Mass. ...
-Protects Against Depression, Cognitive Decline and Mood Swings. ...
-Aids in Weight Loss and Building Muscle Mass. ...
-Improves Heart Health and Lowers Diabetes Risk. ...
-Decreases Sexual Dysfunction and Can Improve Libido.

Keep in mind that the extent or significance of these benefits will be higher for older males because DHEA levels naturally decline as we age.
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I just ran sup3r dhea for 90 days straight with lgd and an andro stack. Would it be cool to continue using it through pct?
 
Tank999 said:
I just ran sup3r dhea for 90 days straight with lgd and an andro stack. Would it be cool to continue using it through pct?
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Yes, it should be okay. I say this because I know you're not a 21 year old noob;). Keep the dose moderate, as you want your hormone levels to balance during PCT. Too high could create a negative feedback loop.
 
Jebrook said:
Typical benefits of DHEA supplementation:

-Lowers Inflammation. ...
-Helps Improve Bone Density and Muscle Mass. ...
-Protects Against Depression, Cognitive Decline and Mood Swings. ...
-Aids in Weight Loss and Building Muscle Mass. ...
-Improves Heart Health and Lowers Diabetes Risk. ...
-Decreases Sexual Dysfunction and Can Improve Libido.

Keep in mind that the extent or significance of these benefits will be higher for older males because DHEA levels naturally decline as we age.
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Cheers
Do users develop a reliance or a tolerance, and is it suppressive? If so, what are the cycling recommendations?
I'm 21 too
 
u_e_s_i said:
Cheers
Do users develop a reliance or a tolerance, and is it suppressive? If so, what are the cycling recommendations?
I'm 21 too
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At 21, if you're not using Sup3r DHEA as a test base while on a cycle you're not gonna achieve the max benefits of this unless you have low natural test levels. 4-8 weeks is a solid amount of time to use this before taking some time off.
 
I just started to use this as an on cycle support for and MK and Rad stack I'm on. I'm on week 5 of an eight week cycle, and I plan to continue to use it into at least week four of my PCT regiment. Is this ok to take about a half an hour prior to me work out on day I hit the gym?
 
Plex78 said:
I just started to use this as an on cycle support for and MK and Rad stack I'm on. I'm on week 5 of an eight week cycle, and I plan to continue to use it into at least week four of my PCT regiment. Is this ok to take about a half an hour prior to me work out on day I hit the gym?
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Yes.
 
Just received a Nutriverse sale email saying they have "all new Sup3r-DHEA in stock". Is this just more inventory of the product with updated carrier or did something else change as well?
 
Angrypolak said:
Just received a Nutriverse sale email saying they have "all new Sup3r-DHEA in stock". Is this just more inventory of the product with updated carrier or did something else change as well?
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No changes have been made to the carrier or ingredients. This is indeed the improved carrier version that I tested quite some time back.
 
I am on TRT for almost a year now and have been taking DHEA and Preg orally. While pretty cheap, I am dubious as to the bioavailability and efficacy of them (as evidenced by a recent blood test). I am looking to use Sup3r-DHEA to fill that gap. It seems that for my needs 1ml per day should be sufficient. Is that 1 pump, or 1/2 pump? Or should I just revert to using a syringe?

Also, are there any concerns for transferrence to my wife or daughter? I have seen DHEA marketed for women, just not sure about the other ingredients.

Thanks!
 
Sparkss said:
I am on TRT for almost a year now and have been taking DHEA and Preg orally. While pretty cheap, I am dubious as to the bioavailability and efficacy of them (as evidenced by a recent blood test). I am looking to use Sup3r-DHEA to fill that gap. It seems that for my needs 1ml per day should be sufficient. Is that 1 pump, or 1/2 pump? Or should I just revert to using a syringe?

Also, are there any concerns for transferrence to my wife or daughter? I have seen DHEA marketed for women, just not sure about the other ingredients.

Thanks!
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If I recall correctly, a full pump = 2 ml. So you sir would need 1/2 pump. This notoriously difficult to do consistently with a manual pumping device. If it were me, I would:

A. Transfer contents to a very small airtight jar or Tupperware and extract using a metered oral syringe
OR
B. See a local Rx counter for a fitted oral syringe plug and dose that way with an oral syringe

Regarding Transdermals, transference is always a possibility. The risk is minimal after 30 minutes to an hour as the ingredients should be on their way through the dermal layers and the carrier will be completely dry. None of the Sup3r DHEA ingredients are highly androgenic so I wouldn't be concerned in that regard though still urge caution after application. Using a hand sanitizer after the carrier dries can help drive a little more of the ingredients through the skin and off of the outer layer.
 
Sparkss said:
I am on TRT for almost a year now and have been taking DHEA and Preg orally. While pretty cheap, I am dubious as to the bioavailability and efficacy of them (as evidenced by a recent blood test). I am looking to use Sup3r-DHEA to fill that gap. It seems that for my needs 1ml per day should be sufficient. Is that 1 pump, or 1/2 pump? Or should I just revert to using a syringe?

Also, are there any concerns for transferrence to my wife or daughter? I have seen DHEA marketed for women, just not sure about the other ingredients.

Thanks!
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If youre anything like me youll love this sh1t man.
 
Jebrook said:
If I recall correctly, a full pump = 2 ml. So you sir would need 1/2 pump. This notoriously difficult to do consistently with a manual pumping device. If it were me, I would:

A. Transfer contents to a very small airtight jar or Tupperware and extract using a metered oral syringe
OR
B. See a local Rx counter for a fitted oral syringe plug and dose that way with an oral syringe

Regarding Transdermals, transference is always a possibility. The risk is minimal after 30 minutes to an hour as the ingredients should be on their way through the dermal layers and the carrier will be completely dry. None of the Sup3r DHEA ingredients are highly androgenic so I wouldn't be concerned in that regard though still urge caution after application. Using a hand sanitizer after the carrier dries can help drive a little more of the ingredients through the skin and off of the outer layer.
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Thanks for the information! With regards to the hand sanitizer, I have some 91% isopropyl alcohol that I use to help drive in the "crystals" after I apply Sup3r-11. Would that be a good alternative? or would the hand sanitizer still trump that in terms of effectiveness?
 
Jebrook said:
Yes, it should be okay. I say this because I know you're not a 21 year old noob;). Keep the dose moderate, as you want your hormone levels to balance during PCT. Too high could create a negative feedback loop.
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how much for use in PCT, half a pump per day instead of a full pump?
 
Hey Jebrook how you doing brother? Long time no speak. Got a question for you, would this show up if you weee being tested for aas?
 
Good question but I think it might be hard to answer, depends on what is tested. Dhea is on WADA banned list but I don't know if it can be found directly. I've heard there are positives from DHEA but these are usually labeled as anabolic substance positives and can be something else. Usually from carbon isotope ratio test and I'm not convinced DHEA affects it enough to give a positive test. Anyway quite impossible to say for sure.
 
solidsnake said:
Hey Jebrook how you doing brother? Long time no speak. Got a question for you, would this show up if you weee being tested for aas?
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I'm good bro. I've been on a bit of hiatus from regular posting but I'm back now. And I agree with bosskardo. It is a possibility for sure that it could fail a PED test. I can't tell you if it's guaranteed or at what dosages.
 
Sparkss said:
Thanks for the information! With regards to the hand sanitizer, I have some 91% isopropyl alcohol that I use to help drive in the "crystals" after I apply Sup3r-11. Would that be a good alternative? or would the hand sanitizer still trump that in terms of effectiveness?
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Difference in effectiveness would be marginal. Use either assuming neither is a skin irritant for you.
 
I work shift work some days and then overnights, due to this my times of taking Sup3r DHEA varies; sometimes mid mornings and then sometimes early evenings. Does it matter that the times I take it are not consistent or should I try to do the same time everyday?
 
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Just thought I'd share. Stopper and syringe was $3 off Amazon. No leaks and precise dosing.

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Tank999 said:
Amazon link please?
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It's an "add on" items so you have to a Prime member and spend at least $25 on a order for that price. I'm a Prime member and had other items to order, but I found a similar stopper and syringe at walmart (also offers free shipping).

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I got the idea from my the baby medicine bottles we used to get for my daughter. Glad to find they have options for us adults too!
 
Plex78 said:
I work shift work some days and then overnights, due to this my times of taking Sup3r DHEA varies; sometimes mid mornings and then sometimes early evenings. Does it matter that the times I take it are not consistent or should I try to do the same time everyday?
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I have the same kind of schedule myself. OL can clarify, but It is probably "best" dosed with consistency between applications but it should not cause any significant difference. I usually shoot for 1/2 pump..once in the morning and once at night, but honestly I am lucky to remember it once per day. :ugh:
 
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Ok the above is way overpriced but almost everyone has a couple of these laying around if they have bought RC or any liquid herbal extract. Rinse it out and the dropper is about 1ml. Also there is another topical ph company, will leave name out for respect, and they have marked droppers in their bottles. I fill those with Sup3r-DHEA for myself and my father. While the bottle this comes in is not perfect the quality and quantity of product for this price more than makes up for it.
 
u_e_s_i said:
Can 7-Keto dhea be used during pct?

Wrong thread. Sorry
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I recall one of the reps stating that it is fine...probably moderately dosed.

I am using it in my PCT and I think it is shining now more than when I used it during my cycle. I get an instant pump, and it helps with my Clomid induced decline in sexual function as well..
 
Ricky10 said:
I recall one of the reps stating that it is fine...probably moderately dosed.

I am using it in my PCT and I think it is shining now more than when I used it during my cycle. I get an instant pump, and it helps with my Clomid induced decline in sexual function as well..
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It's fine indeed, and offers quite a few benefits for body composition in PCT.
 
Ricky10 said:
Oops. Your mis-post led to me mis-posting. Haha!
I was referring to SUP3R-DHEA rather than 7-Keto. However, 7-Keto could only be beneficial as well..
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They both can make PCT smoother actually. Sup3r-Dhea isn't suppressive at all if you take half the daily serving and yet supports libido and well being. 7-keto will aid in preventing muscle loss and fat gain once the cycle is over and you're recovering.
 
xtyler said:
They both can make PCT smoother actually. Sup3r-Dhea isn't suppressive at all if you take half the daily serving and yet supports libido and well being. 7-keto will aid in preventing muscle loss and fat gain once the cycle is over and you're recovering.
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Agreed! I'm 41 so DHEA in one form or another has gradually become more of a staple supplement for me anyway,.
 
Sparkss said:
xtyler Jebrook NoAddedHmones can maybe chime in here on these. I have heard different times for different compounds, carriers and companies. Not questioning your answer Tank999 but it would just be good to get a rep to weigh in. Thanks.
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45 minutes to an hour should be plenty of time for the majority of actives to be absorbed IMO. Then slap some hand sanitizer over the area to drive in any actives possibly remaining on the surface.

My bottle of the new carrier never clogged or leaked when I stored it upright and used it daily. If I accidentally left some liquid in the tip it sometimes would leave a drop on the counter. It did clog a bit when I stopped using it for a few weeks. 1 pump easily cleared the blockage without creating a huge mess.
 
Jebrook said:
45 minutes to an hour should be plenty of time for the majority of actives to be absorbed IMO. Then slap some hand sanitizer over the area to drive in any actives possibly remaining on the surface.

My bottle of the new carrier never clogged or leaked when I stored it upright and used it daily. If I accidentally left some liquid in the tip it sometimes would leave a drop on the counter. It did clog a bit when I stopped using it for a few weeks. 1 pump easily cleared the blockage without creating a huge mess.
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I thought I had heard everything regarding transdermals....never heard about hand sanitizer before!!!

good tip, I will try that-getting ready to run sup3r dhea real soon!!!
 
thebigt said:
I thought I had heard everything regarding transdermals....never heard about hand sanitizer before!!!

good tip, I will try that-getting ready to run sup3r dhea real soon!!!
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While probably (definitely) not as cheap or easy to get - DMSO or PhloJel would definitely be a nice addition. I'm currently putting 1 Pump of Dermacrine over the SuperDHEA to hedge any bets on absorption.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
While probably (definitely) not as cheap or easy to get - DMSO or PhloJel would definitely be a nice addition. I'm currently putting 1 Pump of Dermacrine over the SuperDHEA to hedge any bets on absorption.
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I thought that I read that DMSO has a funky smell to it? I was going to use it for another TD I was having crashout issues with, but read that it will leave a bad odor (compared to the regular carrier smell) if I used it. So I just stuck with 95% Isopropyl afterwards. Pretty close to the same as using the hand sanitizer.
 
Sparkss said:
I thought that I read that DMSO has a funky smell to it? I was going to use it for another TD I was having crashout issues with, but read that it will leave a bad odor (compared to the regular carrier smell) if I used it. So I just stuck with 95% Isopropyl afterwards. Pretty close to the same as using the hand sanitizer.
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0 issues with smell when I used dmso
 
Jebrook said:
45 minutes to an hour should be plenty of time for the majority of actives to be absorbed IMO. Then slap some hand sanitizer over the area to drive in any actives possibly remaining on the surface.

My bottle of the new carrier never clogged or leaked when I stored it upright and used it daily. If I accidentally left some liquid in the tip it sometimes would leave a drop on the counter. It did clog a bit when I stopped using it for a few weeks. 1 pump easily cleared the blockage without creating a huge mess.
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Right now I'm using 1ml (measured by dropper) daily. I apply to my shoulder/trap/clavicle after my morning shower (6:30am), throw my shirt on a few minutes after, and workout about 5 hours later (11:30am). Am I missing out by not applying something like hand sanitizer over the product?

Secondary question, if I should be "topping" with hand sanitizer, is this common practice for any transdermal product?
 
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