Q & A FOR OR1GIN

[Joshlm69]

Damn lol how many carbs you take in daily?? I'm going hypo just thinking about that stack

I have 4 servings of carbs a day so a fair amount I think . Oats with my shake, then rice/sweet potato / noodles 3x

 

[DEVANS89]

I wonder why you are not OL rep yet

Anyway, Almost 3 months on Or1gin and honestly, It did very little for me. First weeks I felt more energy and appetite increase. (Placebo? I dont know). But thats it. My training routine and diet is pretty good.

I didnt experience any better sleep, strength increase etc like other are reporting.

I did experience nice Pine burps

But I dont blame the product. There may be many reasons why it didnt worked for me and some of reasons may be to high level of CYP enzymes.
I remember when I had tooth issue. Doctor gave me Tramadol and this is not lie, i took 2 and it didnt worked. 1 hour later I took 2 more. 1 hour later i took 2 more. (After 10 tabs) i felt little bit pain reduction while my friend had same issue and used same medicine. He was wasted after 2 tramadol

how have i only just seen this, i had some tramadol for a cracked rib, my god it was dark times indeed. One min fine and happy as can be the next.. was like switching to the dark side.

 

[rascal14]

Tramadol just makes me sleepy. It did very little for pain to me as well.

I also ran Origin for two months, I stopped for a week and haven't noticed any difference yet. I did gain some weight at the beginning but I was also on Anabeta Elite and Triumph. The Origin may have helped me prevent some fat gain for my less than adequate appeitite at some points.

Also, I was out of the gym for nearly two weeks while on it but I did not feel any size was lost. So I did get some benefits.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Tramadol just makes me sleepy. It did very little for pain to me as well.

I also ran Origin for two months, I stopped for a week and haven't noticed any difference yet. I did gain some weight at the beginning but I was also on Anabeta Elite and Triumph. The Origin may have helped me prevent some fat gain for my less than adequate appeitite at some points.

Also, I was out of the gym for nearly two weeks while on it but I did not feel any size was lost. So I did get some benefits.

Tramadol blows in my opinion. When I tore my shoulder this summer, they gave me that instead of percs or vics. Needless to say, I hurt.

 

[Woody]

I get more from Aleve than tramadol. All about them Mr. Watsons

 

[Brandinooooo]

I get more from Aleve than tramadol. All about them Mr. Watsons

Same here lol. Couldn't agree more.

 

[p5sky]

Ran 2 months of Origin following a run of ABE + testbooster, gains kept coming. Just looking for the most cost effective use, I can't afford to run Origin year round along with other goodies, most likely 4 month run with a few months off.

Run Origin during building, cutting, or triathlon training? Can't decide.

But, saw the research related to triathlon training around post #125. I've got 4 months intense training for Ironman 70.3.

Tri stack:
Or1gin
Ep1c
Endur3+

Maybe SU for recovery and joints?

 

[xtyler]

Ran 2 months of Origin following a run of ABE + testbooster, gains kept coming. Just looking for the most cost effective use, I can't afford to run Origin year round along with other goodies, most likely 4 month run with a few months off.

Run Origin during building, cutting, or triathlon training? Can't decide.

But, saw the research related to triathlon training around post #125. I've got 4 months intense training for Ironman 70.3.

Tri stack:
Or1gin
Ep1c
Endur3+

Maybe SU for recovery and joints?

Sounds like a great plan to me.

 

[VO2Maxima]

Ran 2 months of Origin following a run of ABE + testbooster, gains kept coming. Just looking for the most cost effective use, I can't afford to run Origin year round along with other goodies, most likely 4 month run with a few months off.

Run Origin during building, cutting, or triathlon training? Can't decide.

But, saw the research related to triathlon training around post #125. I've got 4 months intense training for Ironman 70.3.

Tri stack:
Or1gin
Ep1c
Endur3+

Maybe SU for recovery and joints?

This? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26488613

Should be a great stack. Endur3+ especially will be great for that type of training, since Carb10 will give a good carb hit and less likely to upset your stomach, plus several compounds or endurance.

SU for joints would not be a bad idea at all.

 

[p5sky]

This? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26488613

Should be a great stack. Endur3+ especially will be great for that type of training, since Carb10 will give a good carb hit and less likely to upset your stomach, plus several compounds or endurance.

SU for joints would not be a bad idea at all.

Yup. Thats what I was referencing

I have not used Endur3 first my tri training yet, I've always used Cytomax and Hammer Nutrition products. So I will definitely ease into Endur3 and gauge my training, especially for long rides of 60+ miles, nobody needs to bonk on the final 10 miles. It is definitely a bit scary to consider making nutrition changes.

 

[VO2Maxima]

Yup. Thats what I was referencing

I have not used Endur3 first my trip training yet, always use Cytomax and Hammer Nutrition products. So I will definitely ease into Endur3 and gauge my training, especially for long rides of 60+ miles, nobody needs to bonk on the final 10 miles. It is definitely a bit scary to consider making nutrition changes.

Endur3+, not Endur3, right? Because I'd definitely recommend Endur3+ over Endur3 for the type of training you're speaking about.

Four months is long enough to experiment. Don't make changes for the race, or if you have only tried it once or twice, but with four months, you have plenty of time.

Don't think I've ever used Cytomax (I remember seeing it, but never used it), but I remember using Hammer Gels and Heed like 10 years ago when I was running competitively. That's maltodextrin, right? The Carb10 will probably actually be easier on your stomach than that, but given that Endur3+ is a more complex formula in general, yeah I'd say use it on a medium-length ride at first, or at the very least a brick where you'd have to loop home to drop off your bike and don't get as far away from your house. I think it'll be fine, but no need to tempt fate, just in case.

 

[p5sky]

Endur3+, not Endur3, right? Because I'd definitely recommend Endur3+ over Endur3 for the type of training you're speaking about.

Four months is long enough to experiment. Don't make changes for the race, or if you have only tried it once or twice, but with four months, you have plenty of time.

Definitely Endur3+. For sure start off slowly with the early training and shorter distances. Thanks for feedback.

 

[AndrewMcD]

OL Reps and anyone who has input...

I was wondering if Origin lowers E levels?

I asked this because of the ingredient: atractylodes chinensis koidz oil.

Atractylodes macrocephala is the main ingredient in Black Lion Research's Letrone, which is a potent AI.

I realize these are two different classes of Atractylodes, but I just wanted to know if this was a possibility with ORIGIN.

Thanks!

 

[Danes]

OL Reps and anyone who has input...

I was wondering if Origin lowers E levels?

I asked this because of the ingredient: atractylodes chinensis koidz oil.

Atractylodes macrocephala is the main ingredient in Black Lion Research's Letrone, which is a potent AI.

I realize these are two different classes of Atractylodes, but I just wanted to know if this was a possibility with ORIGIN.

Thanks!

I am not rep but I guess its ok if I answer this one..the answer is NO! And Letrone will do nothing to E levels.

I bet xtyler or NoAddedHmones can answer you this even better

 

[Jebrook]

Definitely Endur3+. For sure start off slowly with the early training and shorter distances. Thanks for feedback.

OL Reps and anyone who has input...

I was wondering if Origin lowers E levels?

I asked this because of the ingredient: atractylodes chinensis koidz oil.

Atractylodes macrocephala is the main ingredient in Black Lion Research's Letrone, which is a potent AI.

I realize these are two different classes of Atractylodes, but I just wanted to know if this was a possibility with ORIGIN.

Thanks!

^^^This. Danes is on the money. The two extracts are worlds apart.

 

[Synapsin]

OL Reps and anyone who has input...

I was wondering if Origin lowers E levels?

I asked this because of the ingredient: atractylodes chinensis koidz oil.

Atractylodes macrocephala is the main ingredient in Black Lion Research's Letrone, which is a potent AI.

I realize these are two different classes of Atractylodes, but I just wanted to know if this was a possibility with ORIGIN.

Thanks!

No worries at all there — origin is not hormonal in nature and shouldn't have any noticeable difference in estrogen levels.

 

[xtyler]

OL Reps and anyone who has input...

I was wondering if Origin lowers E levels?

I asked this because of the ingredient: atractylodes chinensis koidz oil.

Atractylodes macrocephala is the main ingredient in Black Lion Research's Letrone, which is a potent AI.

I realize these are two different classes of Atractylodes, but I just wanted to know if this was a possibility with ORIGIN.

Thanks!

Very unlikely. The compound our extract is standardized for displays no AI activity.

 

[AndrewMcD]

Thank you for the quick replys!

 

[alvin1]

Would orig1n be a good anti agin product in general to gave to my mother, maybe half dose, in order to help with sarcopenia?

 

[jt75]

Would orig1n be a good anti agin product in general to gave to my mother, maybe half dose, in order to help with sarcopenia?

Lol

 

[alvin1]

Lol

Why do you lol? You found yourself funny?

 

[JDybya]

I thought it was a good question. Makes sense to me.

 

[jt75]

Maybe so but if it was my mum I would be encouraging her to see a doctor and get something pharmaceutical for her sarcopenia

 

[VO2Maxima]

Would orig1n be a good anti agin product in general to gave to my mother, maybe half dose, in order to help with sarcopenia?

AFAIK, there's some interesting stuff going on in the research world with sarcopenia, protein/leucine intake, and MPS in older females right now, though it's not my study to discuss, and it'll probably be a while before anything is published. I will say that a lot of times, older people, women especially, have trouble getting in enough protein, and that adequate protein can absolutely slow that process (which sounds obvious to us, but may not be as obvious to your mother). So that's what I'd focus on first and foremost. And if Orig1n increases her appetite and helps her eat more, especially more protein, then it could help in that regard. Furthermore, due to its effect on ribosome biogenesis, it should theoretically help with maintaining (or even growing) her muscle mass.

 

[Danes]

I have been on Or1gin many months and even double dosed it. I do admit, the first thing I noticed when I was Off Or1gin is decreased energy level.

 

[alvin1]

AFAIK, there's some interesting stuff going on in the research world with sarcopenia, protein/leucine intake, and MPS in older females right now, though it's not my study to discuss, and it'll probably be a while before anything is published. I will say that a lot of times, older people, women especially, have trouble getting in enough protein, and that adequate protein can absolutely slow that process (which sounds obvious to us, but may not be as obvious to your mother). So that's what I'd focus on first and foremost. And if Orig1n increases her appetite and helps her eat more, especially more protein, then it could help in that regard. Furthermore, due to its effect on ribosome biogenesis, it should theoretically help with maintaining (or even growing) her muscle mass.

Thank you

 

[vic21234]

Question to all,

I am currently taking Str3ngth Unleashed and am wrapping up my first month of it with some nice results. For the second and final month, I will be adding Or1gin to the mix. I am starting Or1gin during the first week of May. I received my bottle the other day and noticed that it said to not consume alcohol with it. I am not one to get hammered, but occasionally I like a beer or two with dinner. Is this an issue while on Or1gin? Thanks for any help

 

[rascal14]

Question to all,

I am currently taking Str3ngth Unleashed and am wrapping up my first month of it with some nice results. For the second and final month, I will be adding Or1gin to the mix. I am starting Or1gin during the first week of May. I received my bottle the other day and noticed that it said to not consume alcohol with it. I am not one to get hammered, but occasionally I like a beer or two with dinner. Is this an issue while on Or1gin? Thanks for any help

I drank fairly often when using Origin and didn't get any side effects or any thing. I was taking it over Christmas break and there was about a week of heavy drinking. Lol I didn't know it said to not consume alcohol, so I'll let someone clarify why.

 

[Tylerclee]

Question to all,

I am currently taking Str3ngth Unleashed and am wrapping up my first month of it with some nice results. For the second and final month, I will be adding Or1gin to the mix. I am starting Or1gin during the first week of May. I received my bottle the other day and noticed that it said to not consume alcohol with it. I am not one to get hammered, but occasionally I like a beer or two with dinner. Is this an issue while on Or1gin? Thanks for any help

I haven't noticed any problems

 

[Tylerclee]

I drank fairly often when using Origin and didn't get any side effects or any thing. I was taking it over Christmas break and there was about a week of heavy drinking. Lol I didn't know it said to not consume alcohol, so I'll let someone clarify why.

Heavy use lowers IGF-1

 

[vic21234]

Thank you all for the quick replies

 

[hiimnotcool]

Just started my or1gin after it being in the cupboard for 6 months...decided to do a quick 2 bottle run of that and Test1fy before I hop on Epi/Tren for some real fun this Summer.

I mainly eat 1 or 2 meals a day. Is it alright to take 2 capsules of Or1gin before the largest meal? What would happen if I took it in the morning and didn't eat anything with the dose? Go hypo or something?

Not even sure what to expect from this product anymore lol. I was so excited about it when it first came out but then it kind of went to the backburner in my mind. Increased digestion and nutrient shuttling to muscles? Does it lend itself to gaining more lean mass in a moderate surplus (300-500 cals a day) without gaining fat? I've definitely noticed the hunger already and its only been a few days. Cravings carbs like a muhfukka.

Should I notice strength gains with 2 bottles? Increased vascularity/definition/pumps?

 

[xtyler]

Just started my or1gin after it being in the cupboard for 6 months...decided to do a quick 2 bottle run of that and Test1fy before I hop on Epi/Tren for some real fun this Summer.

I mainly eat 1 or 2 meals a day. Is it alright to take 2 capsules of Or1gin before the largest meal? What would happen if I took it in the morning and didn't eat anything with the dose? Go hypo or something?

Not even sure what to expect from this product anymore lol. I was so excited about it when it first came out but then it kind of went to the backburner in my mind. Increased digestion and nutrient shuttling to muscles? Does it lend itself to gaining more lean mass in a moderate surplus (300-500 cals a day) without gaining fat? I've definitely noticed the hunger already and its only been a few days. Cravings carbs like a muhfukka.

Should I notice strength gains with 2 bottles? Increased vascularity/definition/pumps?

You can definitely take two capsules before the largest meal.
Hunger and improved digestion/nutrients uptake are the first effects noticed generally. The 24/7 fullness is quite apparent to me and with a (clean!) slight surplus so is better body composition.

 

[mase1]

Yeah unfortunately you won't notice much. The caloric surplus is the increased muscle fullness not the supp. Good luck either way.

 

[Sparta12]

I am sure this has been mentioned, i just tried to look through here, but got tired lol

Is there any benefit of using Or1gin with mk677... i am taking 20mg a day and have 2 x bottles of or1gin in my drawer, wanting to do some kind of lean bulk/recomp

 

[xtyler]

I am sure this has been mentioned, i just tried to look through here, but got tired lol

Is there any benefit of using Or1gin with mk677... i am taking 20mg a day and have 2 x bottles of or1gin in my drawer, wanting to do some kind of lean bulk/recomp

Quite a few people stacked them. Most kept MK at 10mg tho, getting zero sides and very appreciable gains.

 

[Danes]

I drank fairly often when using Origin and didn't get any side effects or any thing. I was taking it over Christmas break and there was about a week of heavy drinking. Lol I didn't know it said to not consume alcohol, so I'll let someone clarify why.

You will probably not get any sides from Or1gin while drinking but you will definitely lower the effects of Or1gin. Only sides you will feel is Ethanol poisoning effects.

 

[Sparta12]

Hi guys just a quick question, I am sure its been asked ( tried the search function couldn't find an answer) can this be used on a cut to help preserve muscle? I understand it will prob make cutting harder as it like carbs, but is it beneficial if you can survive the hunger?

 

[Tylerclee]

Hi guys just a quick question, I am sure its been asked ( tried the search function couldn't find an answer) can this be used on a cut to help preserve muscle? I understand it will prob make cutting harder as it like carbs, but is it beneficial if you can survive the hunger?

First question I asked lol yes it can brother. IMO, whatever you do to put it on, you can do the same to keep it. Might increase hunger a little but nothing a little Bloodshr3d won't take care of.

 

[Sparta12]

First question I asked lol yes it can brother. IMO, whatever you do to put it on, you can do the same to keep it. Might increase hunger a little but nothing a little Bloodshr3d won't take care of.

Thank you kind sir, might look into getting some more bloodshr3d, just started cutting and I am already hungry haha, that or just bulk BCAA drink all day lol

 

[Tylerclee]

lol Bloodshr3d is the sh1t appetite begone. Have you been using Orig1n prior to your cut?

 

[Sparta12]

lol Bloodshr3d is the sh1t appetite begone. Have you been using Orig1n prior to your cut?

I used it for a couple of weeks while bulking and liked how it helped with digestion and made the muscles a bit fuller, I just need that little bit extra support/motivation atm to get this cut going, been very lazy lately and unmotivated

 

[Tylerclee]

I used it for a couple of weeks while bulking and liked how it helped with digestion and made the muscles a bit fuller, I just need that little bit extra support/motivation atm to get this cut going, been very lazy lately and unmotivated

H3ll yes. With Bloodshr3d appetite suppression, Orig1n is page 1 of the playbook. Good luck

Edit: you don't need luck, you gots the Orig1n lol

 

[xtyler]

Hi guys just a quick question, I am sure its been asked ( tried the search function couldn't find an answer) can this be used on a cut to help preserve muscle? I understand it will prob make cutting harder as it like carbs, but is it beneficial if you can survive the hunger?

Yes, absolutely.
Stuff your face with veggies if needed lol

 

[Tylerclee]

Yes, absolutely.
Stuff your face with veggies if needed lol

Ain't nobody got time for that lol. I cut on pop tarts, yogurt, and peanut butter. Enjoy life and get shr3dded

 

[VO2Maxima]

I used it for a couple of weeks while bulking and liked how it helped with digestion and made the muscles a bit fuller, I just need that little bit extra support/motivation atm to get this cut going, been very lazy lately and unmotivated

Since you've been using it, you know how it's going to effect your appetite already. Throw in an appetite suppressant if you need it (like the aforementioned Bloodshr3d) and you should be good to go.

 

[Sparta12]

Since you've been using it, you know how it's going to effect your appetite already. Throw in an appetite suppressant if you need it (like the aforementioned Bloodshr3d) and you should be good to go.

I have used Bloodshred before, too be honest it made me hungrier and also need to go to the toilet (normally 45 mins after, but a good movement not bad haha)

I think I need to detox my body, sometimes I get really over tired soon after using some kind of stim, been reading and something to do with Adrenal Fatigue maybe, but I am just speculating I could also be pregnant according to google

 

[VO2Maxima]

I have used Bloodshred before, too be honest it made me hungrier and also need to go to the toilet (normally 45 mins after, but a good movement not bad haha)

I think I need to detox my body, sometimes I get really over tired soon after using some kind of stim, been reading and something to do with Adrenal Fatigue maybe, but I am just speculating I could also be pregnant according to google

What do you mean by detox your body? If you just mean taking a break from stims, that's not a bad idea to resensitize yourself. Just don't get sucked into buying any detox supplements.

And adrenal fatigue and pregnancy might be equally likely lol.

 

[Sparta12]

What do you mean by detox your body? If you just mean taking a break from stims, that's not a bad idea to resensitize yourself. Just don't get sucked into buying any detox supplements.

And adrenal fatigue and pregnancy might be equally likely lol.

Yeah I meant lay off the stims, I dont trust any detox stuff I see for what I want to do haha, its hard to get off these stims (caffeine specifically) I am addicted haha, know of anyway or supplement that can help with slowly tapering off and not going insane or sleeping all day?

 

[bhl08090]

Yeah I meant lay off the stims, I dont trust any detox stuff I see for what I want to do haha, its hard to get off these stims (caffeine specifically) I am addicted haha, know of anyway or supplement that can help with slowly tapering off and not going insane or sleeping all day?

Cocaine's one hell of a supplement.