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habajaba said:
Why on Earth would you want to sit there for 5 min injecting? Or is this a German thing where you intentionally cause yourself pain?
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Its a German thing.
LOL

Nah, can't find short (1inch) needles where I live. Longer ones give me the creeps. They only have those elephant pikes.
 
Sparkss said:
I am not sure you will get much from 4 weeks of LGD. It takes at least that long to start showing results, from what I read, although I had a little better experience myself. I also just posted post-LGD blood work in my thread that might help you out a little. It did have an impact on my liver.
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Interesting now was this before or after your PCT, and if after PCT did you use a SERM? A lot of people do not realize that SERMS are also liver toxic.
habajaba said:
I hear ya. We have an HSA because being self employed means insanely expensive insurance. I pay around $450 to insure my healthy family of 4. But we have a $10k deductible. So basically, I pay everything cash and have insurance just in case there is some catastrophic event like heart attack or cancer.



Cool. Mine are 25g and it definitely takes a short bit to draw. Mine is in grape seed oil, which I think helps. Also it's pretty warm here, so that helps too I imagine.

I just can't tell if it's going into muscle or not. So I figured the needle length was a good indicator. My doc said do subq or IM, whatever I prefer, so it doesn't necessarily matter. But I gather there are different areas to target depending on the method. Seems the delt would be fine as there's not a ton of fat up there. But I am thinking maybe these shots I've put in my glute may not be into the muscle with the 5/8 needle. I guess subq in the glute would be fine too.
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Yeah the drawing is a pain in the ass. When you find yourself putting off a shot until later because you don't want to mess with the process it is time for a bigger gauge. :) I am loving the 1 inch 23 gauge and they feel no different going in.

Oh yeah, I live in Houston so I doubt it is too much hotter there.
habajaba said:
Why on Earth would you want to sit there for 5 min injecting? Or is this a German thing where you intentionally cause yourself pain?
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It is the pulling the oil that is the longer more annoying part!!!!
hairygrandpa said:
Its a German thing.
LOL

Nah, can't find short (1inch) needles where I live. Longer ones give me the creeps. They only have those elephant pikes.
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Yeah, I just order them online. I get crazy looks going to the pharmacy asking for them. I have gotten the "Oh your getting these for steroids huh?" more than once. I think the ones I just got were like 25 online for 100 with the flip top needle protectors. You can get them without for about 20.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Interesting now was this before or after your PCT, and if after PCT did you use a SERM? A lot of people do not realize that SERMS are also liver toxic.
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Within a couple of days of the end of the LGD run. No SERMs in use (no PCT as I am on TRT).

Here is my blood work (before and after).

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habajaba said:
So, question for you experienced needle junkies. I use a 5/8" with test. At that length, is it still considered IM or subq? Or does it depend where? I feel like in my glute, it's going into fat not muscle. What length are you using HGP?

The hcg was $70 from my doc. They mark it up to cover their monitoring and office costs. I'm ok with that. I think it's normally like $50 from a pharmacy directly, right? I pay all medical out of pocket, so I'm so used to paying through the nose. I didn't even blink when they told me $70 for 11000iu, which is just over 3 months' worth. Net cost of $20/month isn't horrible to regain my junk and possibly have other positive outcomes.
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I personally use a 1.5" needle
 
Sparkss said:
Within a couple of days of the end of the LGD run. No SERMs in use (no PCT as I am on TRT).

Here is my blood work (before and after).

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Well that is quite a change. Interesting that your total cholesterol went down as well. I never really looked to heavily into LGD but I don't remember seeing that it was supposed to be liver toxic. Does it state that on any of the profiles you have read on it? Thanks for sharing.
 
mmorso said:
hairygrandpa you should smuggle some Rx var into the country when you come for your vacation and send me some...

I'd trust the legitimacy of anavar that has been up your ass before I would the UGL sh1t that's available here
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Buy a bit UGL var, then buy this:

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Bought it to test t-bol , works awesome!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well that is quite a change. Interesting that your total cholesterol went down as well. I never really looked to heavily into LGD but I don't remember seeing that it was supposed to be liver toxic. Does it state that on any of the profiles you have read on it? Thanks for sharing.
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No, most everything I read was that lipids would take a hit, but that liver and other markers would be unaffected. Either I got something else labelled as LGD, or I just respond differently. I did read one thread where someone else also had their liver numbers elevated (after taking LGD) so maybe there are a few of us that just react to it that way?

I had been taking NAC daily, if I had suspected even a little AST/ALT impact I would have included Tudca too, just to cover my bases.

The other thought was that the MK had something to do with it, but so many people are taking it and no one else I have seen has reported anything like this.
 
Update on my cut:

My discipline with the diet is lacking -BUT I feel guilty, that is good.

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I lost about 5lbs, all at the wrong places...no impact on hip tire.
 
MrKleen73 said:
What? No smuggling for you??? :)
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I'm too afraid to take a pre-filled testosterone shot with me. Bought me testosterone undecanoate and fiddled all day with the half life calculator, figuring out how to pre-load for the 21 days vacations.
 
Sparkss said:
No, most everything I read was that lipids would take a hit, but that liver and other markers would be unaffected. Either I got something else labelled as LGD, or I just respond differently. I did read one thread where someone else also had their liver numbers elevated (after taking LGD) so maybe there are a few of us that just react to it that way?

I had been taking NAC daily, if I had suspected even a little AST/ALT impact I would have included Tudca too, just to cover my bases.

The other thought was that the MK had something to do with it, but so many people are taking it and no one else I have seen has reported anything like this.
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Here it comes:

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Sparkss said:
No, most everything I read was that lipids would take a hit, but that liver and other markers would be unaffected. Either I got something else labelled as LGD, or I just respond differently. I did read one thread where someone else also had their liver numbers elevated (after taking LGD) so maybe there are a few of us that just react to it that way?

I had been taking NAC daily, if I had suspected even a little AST/ALT impact I would have included Tudca too, just to cover my bases.

The other thought was that the MK had something to do with it, but so many people are taking it and no one else I have seen has reported anything like this.
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Interesting, I have heard of a few places that have been known to slide in low doses of DBol which is actually cheaper than the SARMS, however they are normally RC places and not supp companies selling SARMS. However on the same note the SARMS we use are still under research so a lot of the info on them is still actually unknown.

hairygrandpa said:
I'm too afraid to take a pre-filled testosterone shot with me. Bought me testosterone undecanoate and fiddled all day with the half life calculator, figuring out how to pre-load for the 21 days vacations.
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As you should be. Screw that. I am not smuggling anything into or out of any country... I have a family. I was going to suggest some undecaonate. So what was your final decision on how to front load. You gonna crush a gram a week for 3 weeks before you leave or what? How does it end up working out?
 
MrKleen73 said:
As you should be. Screw that. I am not smuggling anything into or out of any country... I have a family. I was going to suggest some undecaonate. So what was your final decision on how to front load. You gonna crush a gram a week for 3 weeks before you leave or what? How does it end up working out?
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Its difficult as I'm currently on test-e too. I figured out a way without spikes, lowering test-e gradually -while introducing test-u. It involves a lot of pinning.
The day my flight goes I leave with 80mg test in my blood (about 525mg/week). With a HL of 15 days for test-u, In 21 days, end of vacation, I'm at 30mg test (about 200mg/week). From there I go into a cruise at 175-200mg test/w.
 
hairygrandpa said:
23g.That is a garden hose :)
I'm with 30g. With oil, pushing the plunger gives me thumb-pumps, LOL
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Yeah you back load your syringes don't you? Pulling that through a 30g seems like it would take 10 minutes.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Its difficult as I'm currently on test-e too. I figured out a way without spikes, lowering test-e gradually -while introducing test-u. It involves a lot of pinning.
The day my flight goes I leave with 80mg test in my blood (about 525mg/week). With a HL of 15 days for test-u, In 21 days, end of vacation, I'm at 30mg test (about 200mg/week). From there I go into a cruise at 175-200mg test/w.
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Couldn't you get a prescription from a doctor there to make it all on the up and up? I'm assuming with a script, you can travel in and out countries with a reasonable amount.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah you back load your syringes don't you? Pulling that through a 30g seems like it would take 10 minutes.
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Yep, back loading. I'm about to get some 26g needles from a friend, lets see how that goes.

habajaba said:
Couldn't you get a prescription from a doctor there to make it all on the up and up? I'm assuming with a script, you can travel in and out countries with a reasonable amount.
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The script would have to be translated and later authenticated... Too much run around.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Update on my cut:

My discipline with the diet is lacking -BUT I feel guilty, that is good.

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I lost about 5lbs, all at the wrong places...no impact on hip tire.
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It may just be a supplement but alpha yohimbine is absolutely great for the hip and stomach area. There's definitely a notable difference in a week or two of taking it.
 
We were JUST talking about yohimbine....
Now this happened:
I had leftovers of BCAA's in 3 different tubs. To make room on my kitchen counter, I mixed all 3 together.

Downed 2 scoops of the mixture and popped 3 capsules stimul8 for stimulation.
Went to the gym, felt great for the first 20 minutes, then...BAM....tremors, cold sweat BP went way down.
Had to lay down and simulate I do crunches -but in reality I was in hell.

Turns out, two of the tubs I mixed together weren't BCAA's but C4, a stimulant. I took two huge BCAA-scoops of the fugging C4 AND popped 3 capsules of stimul8.
I'm an idiot.

Now I'm sitting here like that:

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Took my BP, its normal 132/80 pulse at 100 .
I still feel like sh1t. Has anyone a idea how to counteract caffeine? That's the main ingredient in C4.

Can't stop shaking...
 
hairygrandpa said:
Took my BP, its normal 132/80 pulse at 100 .
I still feel like sh1t. Has anyone a idea how to counteract caffeine? That's the main ingredient in C4.

Can't stop shaking...
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rutaecarpine if you happen to have it works great!!!! If not water water and more water
 
hairygrandpa said:
When I had my yohimbine "encounter" (called: burn xtreme) I topped it with 2grm of phenibut injected subcutaneously on the head of my penis
This experiment was awesome, because it had a certain synergy. It went from "almost dying" to "awesome delight".
On my way to the fridge, getting some phenibut...
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Fixed it for you
 
hairygrandpa said:
We were JUST talking about yohimbine....
Now this happened:
I had leftovers of BCAA's in 3 different tubs. To make room on my kitchen counter, I mixed all 3 together.

Downed 2 scoops of the mixture and popped 3 capsules stimul8 for stimulation.
Went to the gym, felt great for the first 20 minutes, then...BAM....tremors, cold sweat BP went way down.
Had to lay down and simulate I do crunches -but in reality I was in hell.

Turns out, two of the tubs I mixed together weren't BCAA's but C4, a stimulant. I took two huge BCAA-scoops of the fugging C4 AND popped 3 capsules of stimul8.
I'm an idiot.

Now I'm sitting here like that:

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hairygrandpa said:
Took my BP, its normal 132/80 pulse at 100 .
I still feel like sh1t. Has anyone a idea how to counteract caffeine? That's the main ingredient in C4.

Can't stop shaking...
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Oof that's not fun, I recommend drinking water and showering. Also if u have any benzos or a beer or 3 that would help.
 
CJNator said:
Oof that's not fun, I recommend drinking water and showering. Also if u have any benzos or a beer or 3 that would help.
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rtmilburn said:
I don't mixing uppers and downer is not smart!!!!!
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Couldn't drink beer as I was about to drive to my farm with the family. The phenibut worked. It was awesome!
We had a huge bonfire with some booze and I was alert and relaxed at the same time.
Could imagine doing stims and phenibut on purpose next time.
:)
 
hairygrandpa said:
Couldn't drink beer as I was about to drive to my farm with the family. The phenibut worked. It was awesome!
We had a huge bonfire with some booze and I was alert and relaxed at the same time.
Could imagine doing stims and phenibut on purpose next time.
:)
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Oh it's fun for sure but not safe. Very dangerous actually.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Lets see what he comes up with. Probably, the combination of stims with phenibut shrinks my nuts.
That would turn them from raisins into two grains of oats.
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lol!! Your testes are so small they can only make one sperm at a time. lol!!
 
Of course the upside is that having tiny nuts just makes your dyck look bigger, right?
 
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