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Yeah, I agree!

The issue is what the military is doing, not that you have one IMO.

Many years ago before youtube I started seeing videos of companies like Haliburton having economic forums and reconstruction plannings PREIraq war with the head people all drooling at the economic opportunity about to come after Iraq is destroyed.

This stuff had a heavy influence in the way I think today.
 
Obama was the first president to spend more on welfare than defense...and the gdp is hovering around 2%

My 2015 numbers I looked up the day was almost 600 billion in a single year at 54% the entire economy. Now, I know welfare is rampantly out of control and worse under Obama, but are you sure more was spend on that than defense?
 
My 2015 numbers I looked up the day was almost 600 billion in a single year at 54% the entire economy. Now, I know welfare is rampantly out of control and worse under Obama, but are you sure more was spend on that than defense?

you are looking at a single year....Obama was president for 8.


google...Obama first president to spend more on welfare than defense....
 
you are looking at a single year....Obama was president for 8.


google...Obama first president to spend more on welfare than defense....

Freakin fuqtards, that is freaking irresponsible!

Looks like Obama's secret weapon from having great depression soup lines was certainly the food stamp.

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Freakin fuqtards, that is freaking irresponsible!

Looks like Obama's secret weapon from having great depression soup lines was certainly the food stamp.

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lol....why didn't he use some of that entitlement money on job creation? investing in the infrastructure would have been far more productive, imo.

hopefully trump can get infrastructure in the budget!!!

what I want to know is where is the excise tax on gasoline going, isn't it supposed to go to maintaining roads? I would be willing to pay an extra 15-20 cents a gallon if I could be assured it was actually going to infrastructure!!!
 
lol....why didn't he use some of that entitlement money on job creation? investing in the infrastructure would have been far more productive, imo.

hopefully trump can get infrastructure in the budget!!!

what I want to know is where is the excise tax on gasoline going, isn't it supposed to go to maintaining roads? I would be willing to pay an extra 15-20 cents a gallon if I could be assured it was actually going to infrastructure!!!

Id be down with that, I can pay a little extra in gas too to fix the countries roads and bridges.

As bad as things are Im still feeling better now about our infrastructure and domestic economy far more than Obama atm.
 
Id be down with that, I can pay a little extra in gas too to fix the countries roads and bridges.

As bad as things are Im still feeling better now about our infrastructure and domestic economy far more than Obama atm.
We have that tax here in NZ. I must say, we have very well kept roads here.
 
We have that tax here in NZ. I must say, we have very well kept roads here.

I dunno about the rest of the country but here in NY we do pay tax on gasoline (one of the highest in the country) that goes to fixing infrastructure. Its not that bad here but there are alot of issues still to be address with bridge maintenance, etc...I still wouldnt mind paying a little more. They have really been picking it up lately replacing entire bridges all around me and NYC as well, some things very well overdue.

Some places in this country are so bad they had to do crazy things such as building a bridge under a bridge just to catch rocks and debris from falling down onto the highway below in Pittsburgh to save costs. How is it possible to make this shyt up, lol

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I dunno about the rest of the country but here in NY we do pay tax on gasoline (one of the highest in the country) that goes to fixing infrastructure. Its not that bad here but there are alot of issues still to be address with bridge maintenance, etc...I still wouldnt mind paying a little more. They have really been picking it up lately replacing entire bridges all around me and NYC as well, some things very well overdue.

Some places in this country are so bad they had to do crazy things such as building a bridge under a bridge just to catch rocks and debris from falling down onto the highway below in Pittsburgh to save costs. How is it possible to make this shyt up, lol

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Wow. That is insane!
 
the federal tax on a gallon of gas is 18.4 cents and 24.4 cents on diesel....this is not counting state taxes.

amazingly Pennsylvania has the highest state tax at 50 cents per gallon and it is going up to 58 cents....which will bring the total tax per gallon to 76.4 cents per gallon of gasoline.
 
Would there be a significant savings per barrel/per gallon if we started utilizing less foreign oil and more of our own? Some of that savings could be passed on as a tax towards infrastructure and still potentially see a net savings per gallon at the pump.
 
Would there be a significant savings per barrel/per gallon if we started utilizing less foreign oil and more of our own? Some of that savings could be passed on as a tax towards infrastructure and still potentially see a net savings per gallon at the pump.

good point...but I want to see accountability for the taxes we are already paying. the is no excuse for that bridge in Pittsburgh with taxes at 76.4 cents per gallon, and even more on diesel.
 
good point...but I want to see accountability for the taxes we are already paying. the is no excuse for that bridge in Pittsburgh with taxes at 76.4 cents per gallon, and even more on diesel.

Steve Ballmer just launched a website and his new company is specifically for having a database in regards to tracking government spending here in the USA. He still needs some work but its amazing progress so far.

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in 2015... 140 billion gallons of gas were used in the united states...times that by 18 cents a gallon for gas and 24 cents for gallon of diesel-you do the math....and that is not counting state taxes...

where in the hell is this money going?
 
You misunderstand. A lot of utilities were sold by govt for privatization, but many are still run through govt run spaces - I.e. power lines, or piping.

Watch if everything goes private and the costs skyrocket for basic systems. Also, without military spending or other things like that, invention goes down.

All throughout history the biggest technological breakthroughs have been powered by military spending and the need to stay one above everyone else. AX thinks that cutting military spending would do good, but ti would slam the US economy (a large portion of your manufacturing capabilities and out sourcing is military things) and not just that, hundreds of thousands of jobs rel on military.

Getting rid of it will create a host of issues both for your national security, economic growth and employment. Couple that with reduced tax and less people paying it due to plants being closed down, people being made redundant etc and you have just sunk the HMS USA

In case you're interested, the Internet is a direct result of military spending, as are Unix systems, GPS, satellites, engineering, nuclear power, etc.

Then if you cut spending for education, you now not only have a poor country, but a dumb one as well. The reason education is govt. funded is because education is expensive, so usually only well off families can afford to send their kids their. The idea is to create a system where all people are afforded equal opportunity to engage in higher learning.

If a utility was sold by the government to a private compay, it's now a private company. Sure, the US military developed what we have as the internet, but the government is not providing my Internet service. Our electricity is provided by a private company that owns it's transmission lines and right of ways. We have plenty of utility service in the US that isn't owned or provided by the government. Secondarily, government subsidizing goods or services doesn't lower the cost to provide those things. It may lower the cost to purchase them, but not the cost to provide them. Look at college tuitions for example. Why do they go up every year? Because the government subsidizes and guarantees the tuition by providing a student loan. The school gets its money from the government, not the student. People keep paying the stupid high prices, so they keep raising them every year. Just a couple examples.
 
lol....why didn't he use some of that entitlement money on job creation? investing in the infrastructure would have been far more productive, imo.

hopefully trump can get infrastructure in the budget!!!

what I want to know is where is the excise tax on gasoline going, isn't it supposed to go to maintaining roads? I would be willing to pay an extra 15-20 cents a gallon if I could be assured it was actually going to infrastructure!!!

Remember they wasted the Trillion dollar stimulus on "green jobs" like Solyndra that went bankrupt after taking the government's $500 Million gift. It was supposed to go to shovel ready jobs to put people back to work.

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President Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness met today in Durham, NC at Cree Inc., a company that manufactures energy-efficient LED lighting. One of the Council's recommendations to President Obama was to streamline the federal permit process for construction and infrastructure projects. It was explained to Obama that the permitting process can delay projects for "months to years ... and in many cases even cause projects to be abandoned ... I'm sure that when you implemented the Recovery Act your staff briefed you on many of these challenges." At this point, Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.
 
It's interesting that so many people in this thread still don't see that both parties in power in the US are nearly identical and do the exact same crap to screw over its citizens.
 
Duterte invited to meet with Trump at the White House. Any thoughts? Seems like an odd choice for Trump, but I'm in favor of keeping all communications open.
 
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I think gorka was too right wing for jared Kushner's taste....for all the whining lefties do, I think Kushner is cleaning house on the right wingers and has trump leaning more and more to the left.
 
I think gorka was too right wing for jared Kushner's taste....for all the whining lefties do, I think Kushner is cleaning house on the right wingers and has trump leaning more and more to the left.

Completely agree! He also might want any Bannon loyalists gone too.
 
Duterte invited to meet with Trump at the White House. Any thoughts? Seems like an odd choice for Trump, but I'm in favor of keeping all communications open.

I have no problem with it except for the hypocrisy.....why not invite Kim or Assad?
 
I think gorka was too right wing for jared Kushner's taste....for all the whining lefties do, I think Kushner is cleaning house on the right wingers and has trump leaning more and more to the left.

The deep state has a bigger influence imo, McMaster is a Patreus guy. Kushner is just a sissy bureaucrat and willing to pick up that bar of soap off the floor.
 
be careful what you wish for!!!

Dump reads this forum and listens to me cause after my post early this morning he said he would be "honored" to meet with Kim. Let's go Dump!!!

I wouldn't be flying over there that's for sure.
 
Dump reads this forum and listens to me cause after my post early this morning he said he would be "honored" to meet with Kim. Let's go Dump!!!

I wouldn't be flying over there that's for sure.

I heard yesterday on fox that a possible meeting might take place...it would be a major accomplishment for trump if he could get concessions from a face to face--particularly after everyone thought trump was taking us to the brink of war with n, korea....


I won't be holding my breath though....
 
I heard yesterday on fox that a possible meeting might take place...it would be a major accomplishment for trump if he could get concessions from a face to face--particularly after everyone thought trump was taking us to the brink of war with n, korea....


I won't be holding my breath though....

Im hoping we can have a '72 Nixon and Chairman Mao moment dunno if you know the whole story on that but wow did China come a long way, you can argue that China in 72 was even worse than what Korea is today. They had nukes too.

I think that is only a tiny tiny shot though, but Im all for talking. Talking doesnt necessarily have to = acceptance.
 
Im hoping we can have a '72 Nixon and Chairman Mao moment dunno if you know the whole story on that but wow did China come a long way, you can argue that China in 72 was even worse than what Korea is today. They had nukes too.

I think that is only a tiny tiny shot though, but Im all for talking. Talking doesnt necessarily have to = acceptance.

too bad henry Kissinger is so old...old henry did the heavy lifting while Nixon got the credit!!!

I agree, I am all in for talking....but I think many people underestimate kim.
 
too bad henry Kissinger is so old...old henry did the heavy lifting while Nixon got the credit!!!

I agree, I am all in for talking....but I think many people underestimate kim.

Underestimate in what way in your opinion, being smart? super duper crazy? super assassin? foreign diplomacy? sex drive? Combination of all? None of the above?

Just a separate note I wanna tell you, in Beijing they pointed out to me which hotel Kim Jong-il stayed at. They told me he never shyt or pizzed in there or anywhere in Beijing. Instead the North Koreans would store all his shyt and pizz in containers and bring it all the way back to North Korea with them so as to never allow any opportunity for the Chinese government to catch a sample and study it. If anyone wants to know my source are cccp communists good enough for you? lol
 
Underestimate in what way in your opinion, being smart? super duper crazy? super assassin? foreign diplomacy? sex drive? Combination of all? None of the above?

Just a separate note I wanna tell you, in Beijing they pointed out to me which hotel Kim Jong-il stayed at. They told me he never shyt or pizzed in there or anywhere in Beijing. Instead the North Koreans would store all his shyt and pizz in containers and bring it all the way back to North Korea with them so as to never allow any opportunity for the Chinese government to catch a sample and study it. If anyone wants to know my source are cccp communists good enough for you? lol

just the fact that he is still alive is quite the accomplishment....
 
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Congress ended the week by passing a continuing resolution keeping the government funded for one more week. This stopgap funding bill is designed to give Congress and the White House more time to negotiate a long-term spending bill. Passage of a long-term spending bill has been delayed over objections to Republican efforts to preserve Obamcare's key features but give states a limited ability to opt out of some Obamacare mandates.

This type of brinkmanship has become standard operating procedure on Capitol Hill. The drama inevitably ends with a spending bill being crafted behind closed doors by small groups of members and staffers and then rushed to the floor and voted on before most members have a chance to read it. These “omnibus” spending bills are a dereliction of one of Congress’s two most important duties — allocating spending. Of course, Congress long ago abandoned another primary duty — preventing presidents from launching military attacks without first obtaining a congressional declaration of war.

The uncomfortable question raised by Congress’s abrogation of these two key functions is whether a republican form of government is compatible with a welfare-warfare state. The answer seems to be “no.”

Congress’s dysfunctional spending process is an inevitable result of the government’s growth. It is simply unrealistic to expect Congress to fund the modern leviathan via a lengthy and open process that allows individual members to have some say in how government spends their constituents’ money. The dysfunctional spending process benefits the many politicians eager to avoid accountability for government spending. The rushed process allows these politicians to say they had to vote for the spending bills. Often, these big spending bills include a promise to cut spending in the future. Like tomorrow, the promised spending cuts are always a day away.

If government continues to expand, the economy will continue to stagnate, social tensions and violence will increase, and more power will be concentrated in the hands of the president, bureaucrats, and a select few members of Congress. The only way to avoid this is for Congress to shut down most of the federal government, starting with bringing the troops home and drastically cutting the military-industrial complex’s budget. Congress must also close all unconstitutional federal agencies and programs, and wind down federal entitlement programs. A good place to start is the Department of Education. The Federal Reserve must be audited and then ended.

The root of the current crisis is neither political nor economic but philosophical. Too many have bought into the lie that government can protect us from life’s misfortunes and stamp out evil around the world without endangering our liberty, our safety, and our prosperity. Convincing a critical mass of people to reject big government is key to our success.

The breakdown of the congressional appropriations process, combined with hyper-interventionism via the Federal Reserve and foreign policy, suggest we are in the last stages of the welfare-warfare state. Whether this system’s inevitable collapse completes our descent into authoritarianism or leads to a restoration of limited, constitutional government and free markets depends on how effective those of us who know the truth are in spreading the ideas of liberty.

Copyright © 2017 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
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Congress ended the week by passing a continuing resolution keeping the government funded for one more week. This stopgap funding bill is designed to give Congress and the White House more time to negotiate a long-term spending bill. Passage of a long-term spending bill has been delayed over objections to Republican efforts to preserve Obamcare's key features but give states a limited ability to opt out of some Obamacare mandates.

This type of brinkmanship has become standard operating procedure on Capitol Hill. The drama inevitably ends with a spending bill being crafted behind closed doors by small groups of members and staffers and then rushed to the floor and voted on before most members have a chance to read it. These “omnibus” spending bills are a dereliction of one of Congress’s two most important duties — allocating spending. Of course, Congress long ago abandoned another primary duty — preventing presidents from launching military attacks without first obtaining a congressional declaration of war.

The uncomfortable question raised by Congress’s abrogation of these two key functions is whether a republican form of government is compatible with a welfare-warfare state. The answer seems to be “no.”

Congress’s dysfunctional spending process is an inevitable result of the government’s growth. It is simply unrealistic to expect Congress to fund the modern leviathan via a lengthy and open process that allows individual members to have some say in how government spends their constituents’ money. The dysfunctional spending process benefits the many politicians eager to avoid accountability for government spending. The rushed process allows these politicians to say they had to vote for the spending bills. Often, these big spending bills include a promise to cut spending in the future. Like tomorrow, the promised spending cuts are always a day away.

If government continues to expand, the economy will continue to stagnate, social tensions and violence will increase, and more power will be concentrated in the hands of the president, bureaucrats, and a select few members of Congress. The only way to avoid this is for Congress to shut down most of the federal government, starting with bringing the troops home and drastically cutting the military-industrial complex’s budget. Congress must also close all unconstitutional federal agencies and programs, and wind down federal entitlement programs. A good place to start is the Department of Education. The Federal Reserve must be audited and then ended.

The root of the current crisis is neither political nor economic but philosophical. Too many have bought into the lie that government can protect us from life’s misfortunes and stamp out evil around the world without endangering our liberty, our safety, and our prosperity. Convincing a critical mass of people to reject big government is key to our success.

The breakdown of the congressional appropriations process, combined with hyper-interventionism via the Federal Reserve and foreign policy, suggest we are in the last stages of the welfare-warfare state. Whether this system’s inevitable collapse completes our descent into authoritarianism or leads to a restoration of limited, constitutional government and free markets depends on how effective those of us who know the truth are in spreading the ideas of liberty.

Copyright © 2017 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
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ron paul is trippin on acid if he thinks any of that stuff will get done...republican house, republican senate, republican in white house, conservative majority on supreme court...and they couldn't even defund big bird, lol.
 
ron paul is trippin on acid if he thinks any of that stuff will get done...republican house, republican senate, republican in white house, conservative majority on supreme court...and they couldn't even defund big bird, lol.

LOL Big Bird! Your definitely spot on, but be sure you know he (and I) knows whats up. Ron is all about the getting the message liberty out there and building up for the future.
 
LOL Big Bird! Your definitely spot on, but be sure you know he (and I) knows whats up. Ron is all about the getting the message liberty out there and building up for the future.

if the dems regain control of congress and white house we might not have a future---I am being serious, the left have lost their minds over issues like immigration and border control!!!
 
if the dems regain control of congress and white house we might not have a future---I am being serious, the left have lost their minds over issues like immigration and border control!!!

They have less than 2 years to do a good job or we will have the Globalist Communes of America sooner than later.
 
They have less than 2 years to do a good job or we will have the Globalist Communes of America sooner than later.

this young generation of lefties don't have a clue, hopefully they grow a brain before it is too late.
 
Dump reads this forum and listens to me cause after my post early this morning he said he would be "honored" to meet with Kim. Let's go Dump!!!

I wouldn't be flying over there that's for sure.

He does. He's on our email list and is a huge fan of our app. He said our app is "really, really great. It is the absolute best app of any apps that have been out there. And that's a lot of apps, let me tell you. The app is going to be big, really big. They got the best people in there to make the app and they did a really, really great job with it, let me tell you. It's really something."
 
He does. He's on our email list and is a huge fan of our app. He said our app is "really, really great. It is the absolute best app of any apps that have been out there. And that's a lot of apps, let me tell you. The app is going to be big, really big. They got the best people in there to make the app and they did a really, really great job with it, let me tell you. It's really something."

Does he actually use it or did he promise to use it and then didn't follow through?
 
John Quincy Adams's

Warning Against the Search for "Monsters to Destroy," 1821

And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?

Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity. She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.

She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.
 
John Quincy Adams's

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

It's fascinating to me that the people that seem to speak the most about what the founding fathers wanted are the most likely to **** on their words. We don't have to guess at what they wanted for most of them were extremely prolific in writing their ideas and concerns down for record. Thank you for posting this.
 
He does. He's on our email list and is a huge fan of our app. He said our app is "really, really great. It is the absolute best app of any apps that have been out there. And that's a lot of apps, let me tell you. The app is going to be big, really big. They got the best people in there to make the app and they did a really, really great job with it, let me tell you. It's really something."
Lol!!
 
Looks like I'll wait to start my satanic cult/political party

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"After careful review of the executive order covering the Johnson Amendment signed by President Trump today, the American Civil Liberties Union has determined not to file a lawsuit at this time.

American Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Anthony D. Romero issued the following statement:

“Today’s executive order signing was an elaborate photo-op with no discernible policy outcome. After careful review of the order’s text we have determined that the order does not meaningfully alter the ability of religious institutions or individuals to intervene in the political process. The order portends but does not yet do harm to the provision of reproductive health services"
 
Looks like I'll wait to start my satanic cult/political party

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"After careful review of the executive order covering the Johnson Amendment signed by President Trump today, the American Civil Liberties Union has determined not to file a lawsuit at this time.

American Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Anthony D. Romero issued the following statement:

“Today’s executive order signing was an elaborate photo-op with no discernible policy outcome. After careful review of the order’s text we have determined that the order does not meaningfully alter the ability of religious institutions or individuals to intervene in the political process. The order portends but does not yet do harm to the provision of reproductive health services"
So far, Trump's entire presidency has been based on smoke and mirrors and showmanship. That's my opinion, anyway.
 
Agreed. He's just shuffling crap around. Even this healthcare thing from yesterday, I'm not wasting time on until it actually passes.

And he is probably going to sign it after looking at the cover page just so he has another big accomplishment in the books.

If the Senate votes on the bill and it passes they better have the whole bill page by page posted in public before it gets onto Dump's desk.
 
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