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Golf elbow, any advice for supplementation for it?

Pec.Major

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My both elbows/fore arms are not in the mood right now. Doing pull ups are a pain, doing heavy deadlift is a pain and even squatting + benching can be uncomfortable. And I train for powerlifting, so squat, bench and deadlift are essential.

I was looking at getting Bulkpowders Cissus or Joint Restore, cheapest and easiest for me to get. Have anybody on the forums tried them? Is fish oil a good advice?

I know Flexatril, unfortunately cant be bought in Europe, and Genoflex are good, but the price point is much more appealing at Bulkpowders with discounts. And I am ordering other stuff by recommendation from Uncle Danes at the same time.
 
Personally dealing with this myself for the past three years the only thing I found that helped was some good straps, elbow sleeves(sling shot) and a couple cortisone shots twice a year!!
 
Pec.Major said:
My both elbows/fore arms are not in the mood right now. Doing pull ups are a pain, doing heavy deadlift is a pain and even squatting + benching can be uncomfortable. And I train for powerlifting, so squat, bench and deadlift are essential.

I was looking at getting Bulkpowders Cissus or Joint Restore, cheapest and easiest for me to get. Have anybody on the forums tried them? Is fish oil a good advice?

I know Flexatril, unfortunately cant be bought in Europe, and Genoflex are good, but the price point is much more appealing at Bulkpowders with discounts. And I am ordering other stuff by recommendation from Uncle Danes at the same time.
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Buddy, dont bother with supplements for your issue. I really would recommend Shockwave therapy for Golf Elbow
 
Had this twice and it's so troublesome. Three months first time and could hardly lift a thing and second time it took 5 months. Do not try to lift through the pain as your tendons will weaken considerably.

I just didn't do any bicep or forearm training or pull ups, it got so frustrating. Even after a heavy session lately I still get a little reminder of it.
 
Cissus will help. Boswellia could help too. Active Release Technique (or other appropriate soft tissue work) will help even more.
Also wrist wraps on bench and deadlift, straps on pull-ups and accessory pulling movements, and elbow sleeves on deadlift and accessory pushing movements.

jameschoi said:
I read that ostarine helps with joints, anyone tried that.
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It does, but just remember that ostarine is hormonal and you wouldn't want to run it indefinitely (like many do with dedicated joint supps), and you'd need to run a PCT following that.
 
Danes said:
Buddy, dont bother with supplements for your issue. I really would recommend Shockwave therapy for Golf Elbow
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Shockwave is awesome, it healed my impingement in the shoulder together with rehab after 1 year not been able to bench! But it is not cheap though. I know cissus have helped in the past for minor injuries, but is bulkpowders cissus loyal?


jt75 said:
Had this twice and it's so troublesome. Three months first time and could hardly lift a thing and second time it took 5 months. Do not try to lift through the pain as your tendons will weaken considerably.
I just didn't do any bicep or forearm training or pull ups, it got so frustrating. Even after a heavy session lately I still get a little reminder of it.
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It's a pain in the butt! It seems to only be aggregated by pull ups or chin ups, for the most part. Biceps curls works fine, but I usually don't do them, other then sporadically.
I'm going to drop pull ups annd find a substitute that don't aggravate the pain, seal row and machine row works fine. And for deadlift, straps for a period.
 
VO2Maxima said:
Cissus will help. Boswellia could help too. Active Release Technique (or other appropriate soft tissue work) will help even more.
Also wrist wraps on bench and deadlift, straps on pull-ups and accessory pulling movements, and elbow sleeves on deadlift and accessory pushing movements.


It does, but just remember that ostarine is hormonal and you wouldn't want to run it indefinitely (like many do with dedicated joint supps), and you'd need to run a PCT following that.
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Elbow sleeves could be a good idea. Right know I apply a big amount of linnex heat stick. It helps. Could 1-2 weeks with NSAID be a good option?
 
I understand that OP specifically asked for supplementation, but why is it that no one attempts to address the root cause of the tendonitis (more specifically, lateral epicondylitis for golfer's elbow). It is important to lower the inflammation, which I recommend cissus and circumin for, but you should also attempt to find out the muscular imbalance (resulting from improper training balance in most cases) that is causing this issue. It is LIKELY that you have an imbalance between the extensors and flexors of the wrist. It is a common problem with we lifters because, honestly, we all do grip work (whether it is farmers carries, deadlifting, or simply holding dumbells) but how many of us actually do ANY form of dedicated wrist/finger extension work? Id bet a very, very small percentage. I myself am guilty of this and I know the importance of it. It's even worse if you compound it with a desk/typing intensive job (or welding, etc). This could or could not be the cause of your specific issue, but it's at least where I'd start.

Edit: id also agree with the above of just getting some cheap elbow sleeves from walgreens/rite-aid/etc. The compression has helped me train through this in the past.
 
jswain34 said:
I understand that OP specifically asked for supplementation, but why is it that no one attempts to address the root cause of the tendonitis (more specifically, lateral epicondylitis for golfer's elbow). It is important to lower the inflammation, which I recommend cissus and circumin for, but you should also attempt to find out the muscular imbalance (resulting from improper training balance in most cases) that is causing this issue. It is LIKELY that you have an imbalance between the extensors and flexors of the wrist. It is a common problem with we lifters because, honestly, we all do grip work (whether it is farmers carries, deadlifting, or simply holding dumbells) but how many of us actually do ANY form of dedicated wrist/finger extension work? Id bet a very, very small percentage. I myself am guilty of this and I know the importance of it. It's even worse if you compound it with a desk/typing intensive job (or welding, etc). This could or could not be the cause of your specific issue, but it's at least where I'd start.

Edit: id also agree with the above of just getting some cheap elbow sleeves from walgreens/rite-aid/etc. The compression has helped me train through this in the past.
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You mean medial? Lateral is tennis elbow.

Valid point, and I myself is guilty for neglecting extension work for the wrist/fingers, I think we all are. Sporadically I do dumbbell extension curls when training arms/forearms. I read that eccentric wrist curls are good for medial/lateral epicondylitis. Going to try that.
 
Pec.Major said:
You mean medial? Lateral is tennis elbow.

Valid point, and I myself is guilty for neglecting extension work for the wrist/fingers, I think we all are. Sporadically I do dumbbell extension curls when training arms/forearms. I read that eccentric wrist curls are good for medial/lateral epicondylitis. Going to try that.
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Yes, i wrote medial then changed it to lateral lol...i misspoke there. Those are a great idea. Another one ive been meaning to start doing are "reverse farmers carries". They seem a tad tricky to set up but i think if you can figure out an apparatus for them they would be very useful.
 
I've gotten some relief from eccentric wrist and reverse wrist curls, finger extension work, and self-myofiscal release massage
 
JDybya said:
I've gotten some relief from eccentric wrist and reverse wrist curls, finger extension work, and self-myofiscal release massage
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What do you do for finger extension work specifically? Ive heard of the bowl of rice and reverse farmers walks but they all seem like a hassle. I need to invent something. I also have used these things called "x-bands" which loop around your fingers and provide resistance when you extend and abduct the fingers but both of the ones i bought broke pretty quickly.
 
Power through it like a man! The body eventually gets right... :)

Really tho, I'd give sns joint support a try if you havent. I don't use joint supps with any amount of regularity but was impressed with the product. Works pretty quick.
 
The only "Supplement" that has any chance of healing your Golfers Elbow, is BPC-157. Don't waste your money on any of these "Joint" supplements - Tendons ain't Joints (and I also tried Curcumin, Cissus, and High Dose B5 - NADA!). You can swallow the BPC, but injections would be preferred - but I swallowed mine and it worked great. You should also do physical therapy with a rubber bar called a 'Theraband Rubber Bar' and the *proven in a study* 'Tyler Twist'. Lay off the stuff that hurts it, use straps, and also dose 15g of Gelatin with 250mg Vitamin C 1 hour pre training (also proven in a study). Good luck, it sucks.
 
jswain34 said:
What do you do for finger extension work specifically? Ive heard of the bowl of rice and reverse farmers walks but they all seem like a hassle. I need to invent something. I also have used these things called "x-bands" which loop around your fingers and provide resistance when you extend and abduct the fingers but both of the ones i bought broke pretty quickly.
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I've tried a couple similar things, but prefer the Iron Minds, Expand your Hands, bands. There are various resistance bands and you can work up resistance like any other exercise.
 
JDybya said:
I've tried a couple similar things, but prefer the Iron Minds, Expand your Hands, bands. There are various resistance bands and you can work up resistance like any other exercise.
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You have had good experiences with them, huh? I have been looking for an idea similar to the xbands that i bought but didnt know which ones to trust. Thanks for the input man.
 
deanX said:
Heard too about Paractin and Cissus combo against certain inflammation.
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It certainly does the trick for me. Cissus alone has helped in the past for inflammatory elbow issues, but I definitely prefer Joint Help as the paractin will help immediately.
 
I had the pain in my left forearm muscle area and used packaging tape to keep the muscle tight. Cheapskate method worked great during the workout lol
 
jswain34 said:
You have had good experiences with them, huh? I have been looking for an idea similar to the xbands that i bought but didnt know which ones to trust. Thanks for the input man.
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As a rock climber I've dealt with a lot of forearm imbalances and tendonopothies. Def endorse those.
 
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