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Ma huang Alkaloids vs Bronkaid

booneman77 said:
in their defense, you can make meth with it... so theres a reason to make it illegal or at least severely limit it.
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I was more referencing the initial ban years ago that prohibited Ma Huang from being an ingredient in fat burners such as Xenedrine, Ripped Fuel, Dymetedrine etc..

I suspect people were not able to produce Meth from those products..

The FDA has successfully caused us the headache of trying to replicate what we once had..
 
The_Old_Guy said:
You can make alcohol out of Apples... let's not go down that route
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It alcohol is a) legal and b) significantly harder to die from than meth ha. You have to put some real effort in to drink enough to die
 
booneman77 said:
It alcohol is a) legal and b) significantly harder to die from than meth ha. You have to put some real effort in to drink enough to die
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I don't want to turn this into a political philosophy debate, but a whopping ~4,000 people died from Meth over-dose in 2014, while ~50,000 died from alcohol related causes - excluding drunk driving and crime. Drunk Driving deaths were ~11,000 and the DoJ estimates that out of the current ~2,000,000 prisoners in the US, about 740,000 were under the influence when they committed their crimes. This says nothing of all the lost careers, ruined families, un-reported crimes, etc - related to alcohol. No Contest.

But my post was basically that "Banning" or "Controlling" something, doesn't do jack shjt - especially such a tiny niche "problem" like making Meth out of 'Ripped Fuel' capsules.

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Shhhhh everyone calm down in here, drink some of this kool-aid...your government knows whats best for you and your safety.

Side note regarding alcohol vs meth discussion. One of the main issues with meth is the process and products used to produce it on the street. Plus you get the yahoos who cut it with whatever to increase profits.
Same issue during prohibition when many people (my family included) would make bath tub gin and the likes at home. No regulation, no QC and alot of people died/went blind from drinking that chit.

I believe we should be able to choose what we put in our bodies, but I would like to see some sort of regulations in place to ensure QC.
 
I have been seeing eca stacks being sold on some research sites... So who knows how legit they are, but bronkaid caffiene and aspririn works like a charm for me. I don't use everyday and for me it's about appetite and energy. Even when using daily the appetite and energy were great. I would say if you take that eca stack and don't feel it you need a stim break, or I guess need a higher dose.i personallly wouldn't think to go higher
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I have been seeing eca stacks being sold on some research sites... So who knows how legit they are, but bronkaid caffiene and aspririn works like a charm for me. I don't use everyday and for me it's about appetite and energy. Even when using daily the appetite and energy were great. I would say if you take that eca stack and don't feel it you need a stim break, or I guess need a higher dose.i personallly wouldn't think to go higher
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I actually have one of these ECA stacks from a RC that I take from time to time.

Ma Huang Alkaloids 20 mg, Caffeine 200 mg, White willow bark 50 mg, L Carnitine 100 mg, Coleus Forskohlii 100 mg, Yerba Mate 10 mg.

It definitely feels much better to me than Primatene or Bronkaid, but I always question in the back of my head if it actually does contain what it states. It may just feel better to me because there is no Guaifenisen. Due to this uncertainty, I don't feel completely confident relying on it for a fat loss aide which kind of sucks.
 
Ricky10 said:
I actually have one of these ECA stacks from a RC that I take from time to time.

Ma Huang Alkaloids 20 mg, Caffeine 200 mg, White willow bark 50 mg, L Carnitine 100 mg, Coleus Forskohlii 100 mg, Yerba Mate 10 mg.

It definitely feels much better to me than Primatene or Bronkaid, but I always question in the back of my head if it actually does contain what it states. It may just feel better to me because there is no Guaifenisen. Due to this uncertainty, I don't feel completely confident relying on it for a fat loss aide which kind of sucks.
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Ricky10 said:
I actually have one of these ECA stacks from a RC that I take from time to time.

Ma Huang Alkaloids 20 mg, Caffeine 200 mg, White willow bark 50 mg, L Carnitine 100 mg, Coleus Forskohlii 100 mg, Yerba Mate 10 mg.

It definitely feels much better to me than Primatene or Bronkaid, but I always question in the back of my head if it actually does contain what it states. It may just feel better to me because there is no Guaifenisen. Due to this uncertainty, I don't feel completely confident relying on it for a fat loss aide which kind of sucks.
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I hear you man. I might give it a shot. A while back there were some GOOD rc companies, but in the past year they have gotten soooo shady, way more expensive and they hide behind the whole not sterile not for human consumption. I have lost trust in that system to be honest.
 
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