jimbuick
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Only way they should trade is if they get an offer they absolutely can't say no to. Brissett is an unknown. I wouldn't trade Garroppolo until I had a better idea of what I have in Brissett.
2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread
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bbartsche
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He played well when Garopolo went down. I think 2 1st rounders is absurd. If Cleveland wants him I say they give there 2nd 1st rounder and a 3rd anything above that is ridiculous
jimbuick
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I doubt the Pats trade him for anything less than 1st overall.
Brissett did not impress me when he played. Seriously dumbed down system. ANYPA under 6 yards. Only one game above 200 passing yards (a shutout loss to Buffalo).
He didn't look like the future of the franchise. Garoppolo does.
bbartsche
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Garopolo has been in the system for a while now. Brissett was a rookie last year. He can be good in that offense. Patriots want a bundle for someone who I feel is the Next Matt Cassel. Browns should keep both picks and go for a better qb in next years draft.
jimbuick
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That's why I said Brissett is an unknown. He might be great in that offense, eventually, but right now they know Garoppolo can play in it.
He very well may be a bust elsewhere. Hell, Brady very well may have been a bust elsewhere. I agree though, the Browns shouldn't trade the #1 pick away, but that sounds like all the Pats are willing to take.
Oconns28
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1st overall is crazy for Jimmy in my eyes.
If the Pats really do love him they need to seriously figure out how many years Brady has left and then Jimmy could potentially be the next Rodgers after Favre
Woody
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I think a first rounder is insane, too. He's played in what, three games? Very small sample size.
jimbuick
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I'm thinking 1 or 2 more. He hasn't had a real dropoff in play yet, but father time is undefeated.
Larger NFL sample size than anyone they would draft with that pick.
bbartsche
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Yeah. I am not too excited at the potential of any of these quarterbacks. I like next years class. Cleveland should draft Garrett #1 overall than get some secondary help, ignore qb and get a better one next year
Woody
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The more I look at QB class the more I feel it's underrated.
The 2014 class didn't excite anyone but produced Bridgewater, Carr, Jimmy G, Bortles, and Savage.
jimbuick
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Only one of those guys is a for sure franchise QB.
The rest are mediocre. (with exception of Garoppolo because of sample size)
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Linebacker Kevin Minter signing with Bengals
Woody
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Bridgewater was a franchise QB before he destroyed his knee. Bortles is still tbd. This year will be be big for him. His footwork is bad
jimbuick
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The only reason Bridgewater was anything resembling a franchise QB was a strong run game.
He didn't even play better than Bradford, who had to learn the offense in 2 weeks.
The Solution
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Where do you guys see.....
Watson (Clemson QB)
Kaizer (ND QB)
Fournette (LSU Running Back)
McCafferty (Stanford Athlete)
mike Williams (USC Receiver)
Going and why? While these are some big names in the draft, who do you think will be the sleeper this year?
Dak went 4th round and got behind an incredible O-Line and established himself as a great late pickup. Do you see anyone like this being a sleeper in the draft?
Watson (Clemson QB)
Kaizer (ND QB)
Fournette (LSU Running Back)
McCafferty (Stanford Athlete)
mike Williams (USC Receiver)
Going and why? While these are some big names in the draft, who do you think will be the sleeper this year?
Dak went 4th round and got behind an incredible O-Line and established himself as a great late pickup. Do you see anyone like this being a sleeper in the draft?
Woody
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Joshua Dobbs and Davis Webb. IMO, Dak wouldn't have been near as good without Zeke.
Joe Mixon, Samaje Pereen at RB.
Gerald Everett at TE.
A few off the top of my head.
bbartsche
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Watson (Clemson QB) Will be late first Maybe saints
Kaizer (ND QB) Arizona, Cleveland
Fournette (LSU Running Back)- I want to say Jaguars or Jets
McCafferty (Stanford Athlete)- Steelers, Patriots, Buccaneers, Raiders KC
mike Williams (USC Receiver) Tampa Bay or Tennessee
Sleepers: Do we have time
Zay Jones WR ECU
Joe Mixon RB Oklahoma
Taylor Moton OT
tanoh kpassagnon DL Villanova
Cooper Kupp WR Eastern Washington
Woody
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2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread
For me, it's hard to call anyone on the DL or secondary a sleeper. A few of the later round guys could have been earlier picks in different drafts.
Alex Torgensen, QB
Marlon Mack, RB
ArDavius Stewart, WR
Anthony Walker, ILB
Keonte Davis, DL
For me, it's hard to call anyone on the DL or secondary a sleeper. A few of the later round guys could have been earlier picks in different drafts.
Alex Torgensen, QB
Marlon Mack, RB
ArDavius Stewart, WR
Anthony Walker, ILB
Keonte Davis, DL
bbartsche
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Marlon Mack, how did I forget him that man is a beast
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Not much news from the weekend:
Blake Bortles has worked on quicker release, other tweaks
Spike Lee calls out teams for not signing free agent Colin Kaepernick
Blake Bortles has worked on quicker release, other tweaks
Spike Lee calls out teams for not signing free agent Colin Kaepernick
Woody
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There's no stopping Zeke! Lol[/QUOTE]
Both times we played them he was a non factor. The second game he had like 100+ yards and was seemingly invisible. It was odd. But yes. Zeke and Dak are a hell of a rookie combo. Wondering how Dak does in his second season.
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Saints host Chase Daniel on visit; QB also to meet with Jets
Ex-49ers legendary receiver Dwight Clark diagnosed with ALS
Tom Brady's stolen Super Bowl jerseys found in possession of international media member
Saints, LB Manti Te'o near agreement on contract
Witness: Ex-NFL star Aaron Hernandez shot at men after spilled drink in club
Ex-49ers legendary receiver Dwight Clark diagnosed with ALS
Tom Brady's stolen Super Bowl jerseys found in possession of international media member
Saints, LB Manti Te'o near agreement on contract
Witness: Ex-NFL star Aaron Hernandez shot at men after spilled drink in club
bbartsche
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Houston or Denver could always use him
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Marshawn Lynch's agent said in a radio interview Monday that his client misses football but he hasn't spoken with the running back about reports the Oakland Raiders want him to play for them in 2017.
Jim Harbaugh: Colin Kaepernick, if given chance, can be a great NFL player
Attorney Jose Baez grilled Alexander Bradley on Tuesday about his claim that Hernandez killed two men after one of them accidentally spilled his drink at a Boston nightclub in 2012. Bradley said Hernandez opened fire while Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado waited at a stoplight.
Washington cornerback Sidney Jones, a likely first-round draft pick in April's NFL draft, underwent successful surgery Tuesday to repair his torn left Achilles.
Shaun Draughn agrees to one-year deal with Giants
The Pittsburgh Steelers have signed former Jacksonville Jaguars defensive lineman Tyson Alualu to a two-year contract, the team announced Tuesday.
Panthers' Cam Newton to have shoulder surgery, to miss OTAs
Dolphins sign linebacker Kiko Alonso to four-year extension
The Mexican media executive suspected of stealing Tom Brady's jersey went to the Super Bowl as a working journalist but spent the week collecting selfies and autographs from football greats and boasting to colleagues that he was there as a fan.
Jim Harbaugh: Colin Kaepernick, if given chance, can be a great NFL player
Attorney Jose Baez grilled Alexander Bradley on Tuesday about his claim that Hernandez killed two men after one of them accidentally spilled his drink at a Boston nightclub in 2012. Bradley said Hernandez opened fire while Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado waited at a stoplight.
Washington cornerback Sidney Jones, a likely first-round draft pick in April's NFL draft, underwent successful surgery Tuesday to repair his torn left Achilles.
Shaun Draughn agrees to one-year deal with Giants
The Pittsburgh Steelers have signed former Jacksonville Jaguars defensive lineman Tyson Alualu to a two-year contract, the team announced Tuesday.
Panthers' Cam Newton to have shoulder surgery, to miss OTAs
Dolphins sign linebacker Kiko Alonso to four-year extension
The Mexican media executive suspected of stealing Tom Brady's jersey went to the Super Bowl as a working journalist but spent the week collecting selfies and autographs from football greats and boasting to colleagues that he was there as a fan.
Oconns28
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Back to Denver would be interesting
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Kiper's latest draft for first round picks
Cook 29th to packers
Watson to browns at 12
Trubinsky to Arizona at 13
Mike Williams to bills 10th pick
Fourentte to panthers 8th pick
Cook 29th to packers
Watson to browns at 12
Trubinsky to Arizona at 13
Mike Williams to bills 10th pick
Fourentte to panthers 8th pick
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The Minnesota Vikings announced that running back Latavius Murray, who signed a three-year, $15 million deal with the team on Thursday, underwent ankle surgery Wednesday in Charlotte, North Carolina.
The Jaguars found a replacement for Julius Thomas in former Oakland Raiders tight end Mychal Rivera. The team announced his signing Wednesday afternoon.
Seahawks agree to one-year deal with safety Bradley McDougald
The former Cleveland Browns Pro Bowl return specialist and wide receiver officially announced his retirement Wednesday from the NFL
Free-agent running back Christine Michael has agreed to rejoin the Green Bay Packers
Cincinnati prosecutor Joe Deters will not pursue a felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance against Bengals cornerback Adam Jones, he announced Wednesday.
The Jaguars found a replacement for Julius Thomas in former Oakland Raiders tight end Mychal Rivera. The team announced his signing Wednesday afternoon.
Seahawks agree to one-year deal with safety Bradley McDougald
The former Cleveland Browns Pro Bowl return specialist and wide receiver officially announced his retirement Wednesday from the NFL
Free-agent running back Christine Michael has agreed to rejoin the Green Bay Packers
Cincinnati prosecutor Joe Deters will not pursue a felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance against Bengals cornerback Adam Jones, he announced Wednesday.
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Jets sign WR Quinton Patton
Fabian Moreau tears pectoral on bench press at UCLA pro day
Former NFL, Bama RB Richardson denies hitting mother of children
Watson has a street named after him in his hometown of Georgia
Ricky Jean Francois signs one-year deal with Packers
Marshon Lattimore reiterates that hamstrings were not issue at combine
Tom Brady's Super Bowl jerseys returned to Patriots
Sanchez and Kaepernick still out there to be signed.
Fabian Moreau tears pectoral on bench press at UCLA pro day
Former NFL, Bama RB Richardson denies hitting mother of children
Watson has a street named after him in his hometown of Georgia
Ricky Jean Francois signs one-year deal with Packers
Marshon Lattimore reiterates that hamstrings were not issue at combine
Tom Brady's Super Bowl jerseys returned to Patriots
Sanchez and Kaepernick still out there to be signed.
jimbuick
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Sanchez signed with the Bears.
The Solution
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He sure as hell won't be better then Cutler IMO
cubsfan815
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Not at all. Cutler hardly got a fair chance in Chicago. Too many OL changes and OC changes.
The Bears still need to focus on getting a QB either early 2nd round, or moving up into late 1st. I just don't want them using their #3 for one.
The Solution
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They won't. They will go defense at #3. This could be a draft where you see nothing but defense being drafted in the first 7-8 picks. Too many valuable players on the DL and LB position's that will go out before offense is selected. Especially given the talent.
cubsfan815
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As a Bears fan, you always fear they will reach and mess it all up. I was hoping for Jonathan Allen, but I'm concerned over his shoulder issue.
The Solution
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You are not a browns fan. It could be worse.
Woody
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Browns/jags are ascending. Bears not so much.
The Solution
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You did not catch my drift.
He was saying the bears would mess up the pick which the browns are notorious for.
Manziel? Could be one of the biggest busts
Or worst 1st round picks in a decade. Way to go brownies lol
Oconns28
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The dirty Sanchez is happy collecting his $$ being a backup. The Bears got their QB with Glennon. Would be silly to draft another that high in my opinion.
cubsfan815
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Glennon is a stop gap.
If they can move up and get Kizer in bottom first, I'd be happy.
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Vikings sign veteran DE Brian Robison to one-year extension
Colts continue reshaping defense with release of DL Art Jones
Panthers extend RB Jonathan Stewart through 2018 season
Redskins add WR Brian Quick
NFL competition committee proposes rule change to prevent intentional penalties
One source from a team in the market for a running back believes Peterson wanted more than $8 million in the first year of a contract. Despite his reputation as one of the best playmakers of the modern era, that is a steep request for the current veteran tailback climate.
Suspended Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon is working out with former Olympian-turned-speed-coach Tim Montgomery in hopes of resuming his career, sources close to the situation said.
CBS making push to hire Tony Romo
Steelers already resigned jones as the backup.
And I hope I don't have to see him step on the field all year and Ben stays healthy, but that most likely will not happen with how many hits the guy takes.
Colts continue reshaping defense with release of DL Art Jones
Panthers extend RB Jonathan Stewart through 2018 season
Redskins add WR Brian Quick
NFL competition committee proposes rule change to prevent intentional penalties
One source from a team in the market for a running back believes Peterson wanted more than $8 million in the first year of a contract. Despite his reputation as one of the best playmakers of the modern era, that is a steep request for the current veteran tailback climate.
Suspended Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon is working out with former Olympian-turned-speed-coach Tim Montgomery in hopes of resuming his career, sources close to the situation said.
CBS making push to hire Tony Romo
Steelers already resigned jones as the backup.
And I hope I don't have to see him step on the field all year and Ben stays healthy, but that most likely will not happen with how many hits the guy takes.
Woody
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2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread
I think we both can agree Kaep > Jones. Kaep is still young and is a mobile quarterback. Unfortunately, I think Ben will miss a few games every year and Kaep could win games (or at least keep steelers competitive) where as Jones is a liability.
I think we both can agree Kaep > Jones. Kaep is still young and is a mobile quarterback. Unfortunately, I think Ben will miss a few games every year and Kaep could win games (or at least keep steelers competitive) where as Jones is a liability.
The Solution
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I agree kaep is most likely better, but Tomlin already signed jones. Steelers may use that spot on the roster for someone else, or to sign a draft pick from the NFL draft
Only time will tell
Only time will tell
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Bengals release veteran LB Rey Maualuga\
Former Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson took to Twitter early Saturday morning to say he's "in no rush" to sign with a new team.
NFLPA investigating whether Jaguars violated CBA
Former Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson took to Twitter early Saturday morning to say he's "in no rush" to sign with a new team.
NFLPA investigating whether Jaguars violated CBA