Kratom strains
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ELROCK
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Green Indo is my go to kratom strain. Green Malay lasts a lil longer, but just not as good (close but not). I am waiting to try my yellow Vietnam strain. I have never tried a yellow, but it sounds like it will be really good.
rascal14
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I've been using Kratom 1-2 times a day for the past two weeks, it is definitely the most I ever have. 3-4g during the day of a green is enough for a mood boost and some motivation.
Then at night I'll take another 10g lol I would like to cut down the dose needed for relaxing, but anything less is just not worth it. Grapefruit juice doesn't help reduce the dose for me either.
Then at night I'll take another 10g lol I would like to cut down the dose needed for relaxing, but anything less is just not worth it. Grapefruit juice doesn't help reduce the dose for me either.
rascal14
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I've been mixing yellow Vietnam 2-3g with my doses and it is great to mix with. I haven't used it alone though.
ELROCK
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Yeah, I really only use kratom like once a week or so ATM. I will usually do a 4 gram dose of green Indo late-morning or I will do a 5 gram dose of Red Tia in the early evening.
muscleupcrohn
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I got my Green Indo, Bali, and Maeng Da yesterday! Which one and what dose would you guys recommend for going out with some friends to watch a movie? 3g of one of them to start? With food, without, etc?
ELROCK
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Personally, I would start at 3-4 grams of green Indo.
The Maeng Da would be a bit too much energy wise for a movie. The Bali may be pretty good at 3 grams in that type of situation.
muscleupcrohn
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Sounds good. Ruin as in diminish the effects, or lead to adverse effects?
rascal14
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Diminish the effects. I think it tends to enhance the effects for me if I eat a couple hours after taking it, but if I take it too soon after eating it won't do anything.
muscleupcrohn
Legend
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried taking agmatine with their kratom?
muscleupcrohn
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Ok, I just remember reading that agmatine has potential to help reduce the addictive potential of opiates and other things, as well as potentiate the effects of some things as well.
rtmilburn
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Totally agreed dont fuk with resin. However I know people will do it any ways so if you are(please don't!!!) Make it your self. Resin makes me sick as hell
rtmilburn
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Extract is not hard to do. doubt you need help doing extracts, as youre a smart guy, but if you do PM me I've had some good success and love a certain extract I make but don't want to share openly as it's strong AF and I don't want be to abuse it.
rascal14
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I haven't really looked much into it, but I figured it can't be too difficult. I'll probably hit you up for some tips if I decide to ever actually try it.
It gets tiring having to throw back 10g considering I hate the taste. It'd be a lot nicer to just toss back a small amount and be good.
rtmilburn
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Ya the extract is God awful but smaller amount so it is easier
muscleupcrohn
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Just took 3g of Green Indo mixed in 2oz water. It didn't taste good, but was very tolerable. It smelled very much like hay from back when I worked with horses.
rascal14
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Go for it. Depending on how complex it is I may try it this weekend and see how it goes.
rtmilburn
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This is for 10:1 hybrid extract that utilizes mostly ethonal. I do not recommend using more than 20:1 for kratom. For my tongkat Ali I did 150:1. To change the ratio you just multiple the stuff to desired ratio.
Get glass container with marks every 10ml.
Pour in 100 ml 110 proof vodka
Put in 5ml high flash point oil avocado oil, refined peanut oil, propylene glycol (this is the best can get at Amazon).
Put in 5ml white vinegar
Put in your favorite kratom strain, green Indo is my favorite with this, 11x your normal amount YOU use.(11x to keep the 10:1 ratio so each ml = 1 normal dose)
Cap/close lid/cover with lots of Saran Wrap.
Shake extremely vigorously.
Let it sit in a fridge for atleast 3 hours
Uncover container
Set class container inside BARELY boiling pot of water(more simmering than boiling as you don't want the temp to high as it will degrade the contents in the kratom) let glass container with the kratoms in it evaporate the "liquid" down to 11ml(accountimg for the kratoms volume so it's total volume will be more and will vary depending on the amount of kratom used)
Pull out the glass container and while still warm strain out the depleted kratom(if there is any to strain as if you use powder it might not be much to stain but strain anyways) using a cheese cloth to filter and pour into preferred container.(it's important to strain while warm so the oil can more easily make it through the cheese cloth as the oil is the most important part as alot of the contents are fat soluble)
Let it cool then shake vigorously and use.
Optional step(s) let is sit in fridge for 7 days COVERED shaking it vigorously 2 times daily before boiling step.
PS. Make sure to reshake before each use
PPS. 1ml = 1dose if using leaf. If using powder you will need to calculate for the volume of the powder to get the correct ml per dose
PPPS. Store in the fridge.
Edit. I hate using powder. leaf is much better as it's a true extract. With powder your leaving to much in there and it changes the volume and might as well be using just powder in a tea or something.
kisaj
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Something interesting to note is that I have been fighting the flu for the last couple days and decided to get up and take some indo in oj. About 30 min later I start feeling it and for the first time in 48 hours, my fever has broke. I can't say I feel good, but definitely an improvement and no fever.
muscleupcrohn
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Thanks for the tip. I was just asking if anyone has tried that yesterday.
ELROCK
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muscleupcrohn
Legend
It was somewhat subtle most of the time, but I enjoyed it. My friends and I planned on seeing Split at 7:20, but that showing was sold out, so we bought tickets for the 10:20 showing, and decided to get some food. I took the kratom at about 6:30, and had 10 grilled chicken tenders from PDQ at about 8:30, then watched the movie from about 10:30 to around 12:30, and got home at about 1:00. I felt a little more relaxed than normal after taking the kratom after a little while, probably similar loosening as 1-2 shots, so not all that much. Food didn't seem to diminish the effects, and I really enjoyed the movie, and the reclining seat was extremely comfortable. After the movie when I got up, I felt pretty tired (heavy legs and eyelids), but that was about 6 hours after I took the kratom, and it was past midnight anyway, haha. Overall, the experience was very subtle, but still nice I suppose, and a good/safe first time use. I'm thinking that I'd like a higher dose of Green Indo the next time. Maybe 6g for a similar situation?
Also, I remember you mentioned that "Maeng Da would be a bit too much energy wise for a movie," so I suppose that'd be better for a time when I can talk and socialize more than in a movie theater? Also, how does Bali compare the Maeng Da and Green Indo?
kisaj
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Definitely need more. 5-6g is a sweet spot for Green Indo, imo. I found that ~3g was a tease. Kind of there, kind of not.
Bali is much stronger on the relaxation and sedative side. Euphoria is there similar to Indo, but much less energy. 3-4 g will have a little energy and 5-6 kicks it in nicely with some pain killing effect.
Bali is much stronger on the relaxation and sedative side. Euphoria is there similar to Indo, but much less energy. 3-4 g will have a little energy and 5-6 kicks it in nicely with some pain killing effect.
ELROCK
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Split was a pretty good movie, but the job the main actor did was ridiculously impressive!
I suggested 3-4 grams to you because it was your very first time with Kratom as that's a good start. Next time I would just bump the dose up a little (1-3 grams) since you now know you handle it well.
muscleupcrohn
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Yeah, it was definitely impressive how he was believable as several characters by changing his facial expressions and mannerisms, and how you could tell which personality he was just by his face really. Not to get into nitpicking the plot, but the girls had a few good opportunities to take him out when he was a normal person, especially in one of his less threatening personalities, and the therapist was really, really bad at her job, and didn't take any precautions whatsoever that would have really changed the ending of the movie.
Yeah, I still think it was a good idea to start at 3g, and take more next time now that I know how it treats me.
ELROCK
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Exactly why it was just a pretty good movie that had a great performance in it. Not a great movie, but worth checking out IMO.
muscleupcrohn
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I think that the sequel could be either very good or pretty bad, depending on what direction they go with it. I don't want to spoil the ending for anyone here who hasn't seen it though.
rascal14
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Slightly off topic, has anyone had any luck with Kava? I'd likely get an extract because I don't want to deal with the process of making it, but I have heard it's better to start with whole powder. I was thinking of trying some out and taking a break from Kratom. I did have a tincture a while back but it wasn't really anything special, but I've heard that they aren't that great to begin with.
Volvo140G
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I've never seen much from kava, tried a couple different tinctures. Echoing your sentiments maybe it's not the best method? There's lots of reports or various kava brews, etc but I've given up on it. More concisely, I don't really care. Good kratom, beer, and weed ftw, not necessarily in that order!
hazard12
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This man knows whats up: Weed, Kratom, Beer! (In that order for me). Keep the gains, make some friends!
PANDFAN
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So over the past few days i went through 1oz of maeng da and 1oz reserved bali
bali was by far the best for euphoria, relaxing and overall just good mood
maeng da-i didn't feel at all stimulated by any means and really didn't feel any difference between the bali and that...took the same amount however my wife got sick both times she did the maeng da
just ordered another 6 oz 2 bali, 2 red tai, 2 green indo
sexual side effects on maeng da for both of us...completely numb down there
bali was by far the best for euphoria, relaxing and overall just good mood
maeng da-i didn't feel at all stimulated by any means and really didn't feel any difference between the bali and that...took the same amount however my wife got sick both times she did the maeng da
just ordered another 6 oz 2 bali, 2 red tai, 2 green indo
sexual side effects on maeng da for both of us...completely numb down there
hazard12
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If you are stim tolerant, Maeng da and the stimulating strains will probably just feel like watered down versions of slower strains, ESPECIALLY if you have taken or a re taking yohimbe (the stimulating alkaloids are VERY similar and I think they actually do share some. As far as the sex goes yeah....unless you are trying to last FOREVER do not take kratom before having sex.
Having said that, the right dose of kratom can be a good way to modulate your sex life. For example, I have a small amount of tolerance (about 8-10g usage a day). This means that I wake up in the morning slightly withdrawing (much life coffee), sometimes I use this as a great way to have AMAZING orgasms, yes its harder to last longer but if you and your partner are welll aware of whats going on, it can be a great experience. On the flipside, sometimes its HER time to have fun and Ill take a moderate dose and **** her like a horse for an hour. Towards the end, the kratom will have worn off enough that she can get me to where I need to go and we are both extremely tired, got a great cardio session and shell be latched to my chest catching her breath from the amount of orgasms she had (she lost count last time....)
muscleupcrohn
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Ok guys, I'm thinking of taking some more kratom today (it would be my second time using it). This evening I have a bible study (and going out to eat a few hours later). Now, I'm usually pretty talkative and vocal anyway at this sort of thing, especially since I know a good amount of the people who will be there, but I think this would be a good time to feel out how kratom effects me in a more social setting when I'm interacting with a good number of people.
Last time I used 3g Green Indo, so I'm either thinking of going up to 6g Green Indo, or trying Maeng Da for the first time. Which would you guys recommend, and if Maeng Da, should I still try it at 3g first?
Last time I used 3g Green Indo, so I'm either thinking of going up to 6g Green Indo, or trying Maeng Da for the first time. Which would you guys recommend, and if Maeng Da, should I still try it at 3g first?
hazard12
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The way I do testing with kratom is to have a 3g dose and take a 1.5-3g dose with me either premixed with BCAAs and water in a shaker or wrapped up in a piece of toilet paper to parachute. This way youll definitely get to the sweet spot, either directly or after the booster. For socializing id use the green indo, maeng das are made for workouts and pounding some books or crunching numbers IMO. It can get a little antsy when you are trying to let loose, unless you are planning on drinking (I dont think this is the case right now).
IF you ever plan on drinking while on kratom, id suggest the maeng da, it really synergizes with booze. IF you end up doing this, PLEASE HYDRATE. Both kratom (especially maengda strains) and booze are diuretics.If you become dehydrated, kratoms effect kinda vanish (its freaky actually, although 2 large glasses of water will make it come right back if you get to that point).
Let us know how it goes! Good luck!
IF you ever plan on drinking while on kratom, id suggest the maeng da, it really synergizes with booze. IF you end up doing this, PLEASE HYDRATE. Both kratom (especially maengda strains) and booze are diuretics.If you become dehydrated, kratoms effect kinda vanish (its freaky actually, although 2 large glasses of water will make it come right back if you get to that point).
Let us know how it goes! Good luck!
muscleupcrohn
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Thanks man! I'm not a big drinker, I've drank 2-3 times (typically 2-3 shots) in the past year, haha. Thanks for the heads up about the Maeng Da, and you may have a good point, since there are times when I'll be sitting and waiting to say something when someone else is talking, so I don't want to be too antsy or hyped up, haha. I think I'll go with 6g Green Indo then.
kisaj
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Interesting notes here. I personally don't care for the maeng da as I have so many other ways for a good stimulating daytime like rhodiola, l-tyrosine, caffeine, etc.. I really am only after kratom for euphoria and relaxation at the end of the day. I think green indo is way better as it provided the energy, yet also much more euphoria and relaxation at the end.
Re: being numb down there. Everyone that I have had experiment with kratom since I tried it has said the same. It completely kills the libido and ability to get the guy moving. So, while I haven't personally noticed that, I may not be paying attention because we've been getting over illnesses in the house and that has not been anywhere on the list to begin with.