Hairygrandpas log, fat- and older people welcome!- diet, training, cycles, healing
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mmorso
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Just got my ancillaries in today... I was planing on 12.5mg exem eod to start and hope to have it all figured out by week 8, when I introduce NPP. I'll then start pinning it eod and just spread my test shots so I get them twice a week...
The Prami I'll prob just start dosing
.5mg e4d?
Fck man my logic is that I can always stop the NPP and it'll clear quickly if I get sh1t sides... i don't want to run that many cycles in all honesty so wanna make the most outta them
Just got my ancillaries in today... I was planing on 12.5mg exem eod to start and hope to have it all figured out by week 8, when I introduce NPP. I'll then start pinning it eod and just spread my test shots so I get them twice a week...
The Prami I'll prob just start dosing
.5mg e4d?
Fck man my logic is that I can always stop the NPP and it'll clear quickly if I get sh1t sides... i don't want to run that many cycles in all honesty so wanna make the most outta them
mmorso
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My BF is prob the same, although it'll be much lower when I run this cycle.. I'm about to do a quick recomp with dtrest/epistane/T3
CJNator
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Hip tire
Ah ok lol
hairygrandpa
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DON'T touch the prami before reading this:
I took 0.125mg at first and felt bad on it. When I thought I could tolerate more, I upped to 0.25mg and felt like dying. Will never-ever touch that sh1t again!
At your BF%, 12.5mg exem EOD sounds good to me. Others would say to drop below 20% before cycle. Go as low as possible.
hairygrandpa
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Ha! You are my only groupie!
On AM are some members (don't want to name them) who think I'm crazy -and/or a "know it all" who does not take advise.
They are right. LOL (most of the time)
No fugg was given for their assumption. I'm happy that sharing my, sometimes lunatic experiences, are helpful for others -but please check out other sources too.
kenpoengineer
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I use B12 (Methylcobalamin) at 0.3 cc per week because I was deficient in both folate and B12. Here is a graph showing my improvement from my bloodwork app called MyBloodTracker:
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ryane87
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Well, yeah. I mean, you are insane.....lol
hairygrandpa
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This is good reasoning !
I don't want to bore you to death -but here what I think so far about AAS:
*No matter what you take, it will NOT give you the desired results -and if it does, the outcome is short lived and probably only cosmetic (water,glycogen).
*It will be difficult to hold on to the perceived gains after the cycle.
*You WILL crave for another cycle, this time a "better one", this goes on infinitum.
*You will, at some point, run into trouble, guaranteed.
My advise:
Curb your expectations. I probably gained the same muscle mass on a DMZ cycle, as I did on 650mg test-e/w
hairygrandpa
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mmorso , here how I pin.
I use disposable slin syringes, as bigger needles give me the creeps. Since using NPP almost daily, I started to pin in my quads, as I can't reach my azz comfortably.
Delts are my favorite spot, but you have only 2 shoulders and they will get swollen- and sore if you pin so often.
I load my syringes from behind, taking out the plug and fill them with another big needle-syringe, because it takes up to 10 minutes to aspirate the oily AAS with a slin-needle -and this way the needle tip stays sharp (for not punkturing the rubber seal, if you have bigger vials). When the oil is in the syringe, I put the cap back on and put the syringe in a glass of warm water, partially submerged to thin the oil ( kenpoengineer gave the tip) before injecting. Using slin pins takes time but is mentally more encouraging for me.
I pin Peptides anywhere I want, they are water based and almost painless to use (besides chest, stings a bit).
The bigger syringe I use to fill the smaller ones, is afterwards sterilized with boiling water for re-use. I do that with disposables too -and use them twice -then discard (I'm a cheap bastard, lol)
I use disposable slin syringes, as bigger needles give me the creeps. Since using NPP almost daily, I started to pin in my quads, as I can't reach my azz comfortably.
Delts are my favorite spot, but you have only 2 shoulders and they will get swollen- and sore if you pin so often.
I load my syringes from behind, taking out the plug and fill them with another big needle-syringe, because it takes up to 10 minutes to aspirate the oily AAS with a slin-needle -and this way the needle tip stays sharp (for not punkturing the rubber seal, if you have bigger vials). When the oil is in the syringe, I put the cap back on and put the syringe in a glass of warm water, partially submerged to thin the oil ( kenpoengineer gave the tip) before injecting. Using slin pins takes time but is mentally more encouraging for me.
I pin Peptides anywhere I want, they are water based and almost painless to use (besides chest, stings a bit).
The bigger syringe I use to fill the smaller ones, is afterwards sterilized with boiling water for re-use. I do that with disposables too -and use them twice -then discard (I'm a cheap bastard, lol)
Studhorse
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It's a luxury to bang !
Studhorse
Legend
Go natty! All the gains stay as long as you keep feeding your muscles and keeping your workouts moving up.
hairygrandpa
Legend
...after loosing the AAS gains, LOL!
You are right, as long as your test is in range, stay natty!
I had low test, I know it without a blood test. Had all symptoms. Here in Bananaland there are no endocrinologists, at least none I would trust.
Currently I'm using TRT as an excuse to "abuse" -but I heard the first warning shot (high RBC) -and I only go as far as it is reasonable to me
Studhorse
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You are correct! Everything has to be in check.
Studhorse
Legend
I'm sure my day is coming.
hairygrandpa
Legend
It's a double edged sword.
You will feel better on it, but here the downsides I can see:
-pinning (risk of infection, uncomfortable, necessity -can't skip)
-more trips to labs to get blood work
-vacations overseas can get messy.(carrying gear and needles, prescriptions, paperwork to authorize)
-at old age, who will pin you when your hands tremble?
mmorso
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^^^this is some honesty right here!!
See this is my plan boys: use drugs to get to my genetic potential faster.. hopefully that way I can keep my gains. I'm gonna do a couple cycles to achieve that and am looking only for fairly modest gains.
There is also a recreational aspect to taking gear that I enjoy.
Then I'm going all natty... back to phosphatic acid and creatine
SFreed
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You're one of my favorite lunatics! I doubt I'll ever pin, but if I do, you can bet your hairygrandpa a$$ I'll just ask you what to do
mmorso
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Yep hairygrandpa you have more than one groupie here...
ryane87 likes to hear your stories at bedtime... he's "plum tuckered" at the end of the day and enjoys nothing more than getting into his dinosaur pjs and having you tuck him into bed
ryane87
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They are BATMAN PAJAMAS fcker....and I cut the feet off!!!! And I am sry, not sry!
mmorso
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I totally forgot they were batman pjs... and that's badass you cut the feet off!!
hairygrandpa
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That what I thought too.
Now I'm "always-on" switching compounds around and do half-azzed (way to short) "TRT-cruises".
Read it in another forum: "You will get hooked, it takes A LOT of discipline to go off for a couple of month after cycle".
Knowing myself and how I deal with addictions, NO PROBLEMO! I was "addicted" to....put anything here, it probably applies...to a lot of things in the past, nothing really held me in it's grasps, even though all my friends thought it would.
I also doubt that AAS will, actually -but it is as equally addictive as all the other stuff I did -or took in the past.
I don't say you will be hooked, be aware that most of the people can't get off of their addictions.
ryane87
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Got damn right!
hairygrandpa
Legend
Honestly?
Hell no!
But I'm the type of weird fugger that doesn't regret anything ...wait....besides missing the opportunity to have boned some girls when I had the chance -but was to high -or drunk.
Believe me I'm already looking forward to take it a notch farther -but first I have to finish this cycle without dying because of my high RBC, LOL.
CJNator
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I'm in the same boat lol #noragrets
hairygrandpa
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The past is behind -what stays is experience.
Worst thing that can happen in future is death.
Death is overrated, IMHO, as long as you can choose how -and when to go.
My biggest fears are:
-suffering of the ones I love, including animals
-not be able to pull the trigger on me, when time comes, due to illness like dementia -or paralysis
CJNator
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I'm totally with you, everything behind me was a learning experience and just that and yea death is eventually going to happen, just love life till then. Also yea those are pretty much my same fears lol I tell everyone if I go into a coma to just pull the plug and for someone to kill me if I become a vegetable. Dementia I'd rather solve myself, there are plenty of way to help it not come about or at least not as quickly.
hairygrandpa
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Update on cycle:
Here my conclusions on some peptides:
Peptides:
For the last few weeks I studied some available peptides in detail and got to the conclusion that:
-IGF-Lr3 is not recommended (molecules too big for receptors, only acts as an expensive insulin substitute)
-IGF-DES is better for a cruise -or PCT, when natural IGF levels drop/ almost worthless in a blast, because IGF already sufficiently present
-PEG-MGF/MGF apparently the only peptide with benefits in a cruise -or blast for accelerated recovery
After my last blood donation -and noting my high RBC, I decided to cut down on dosage:
-about 225mg test-e/week (125mg e4d ;down from 300mg/week)
-NPP 4x 100mg/week total: 400mg (instead of 600mg)
-PEG-MGF bilateral on off days
-CJC/dac 1mg x week
-CJC/ no dac 150mcg each night
One week in, I notice some joint relieve. BW is going up (2.5lbs). No better recovery perceived, no strength gain as of yet.
Libido down, despite caber at 0.25mg e3d.
Here my conclusions on some peptides:
Peptides:
For the last few weeks I studied some available peptides in detail and got to the conclusion that:
-IGF-Lr3 is not recommended (molecules too big for receptors, only acts as an expensive insulin substitute)
-IGF-DES is better for a cruise -or PCT, when natural IGF levels drop/ almost worthless in a blast, because IGF already sufficiently present
-PEG-MGF/MGF apparently the only peptide with benefits in a cruise -or blast for accelerated recovery
After my last blood donation -and noting my high RBC, I decided to cut down on dosage:
-about 225mg test-e/week (125mg e4d ;down from 300mg/week)
-NPP 4x 100mg/week total: 400mg (instead of 600mg)
-PEG-MGF bilateral on off days
-CJC/dac 1mg x week
-CJC/ no dac 150mcg each night
One week in, I notice some joint relieve. BW is going up (2.5lbs). No better recovery perceived, no strength gain as of yet.
Libido down, despite caber at 0.25mg e3d.
hairygrandpa
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NPP kicked in:
Weighted pull ups BW 224lbs +35lbs
7/5+1 BW 10
cable Lat push down bar:
90lbs 13/10/10/8/8
seated row
cables 230lbs x 15/14
row machine "life fitness" total stack:
320lbs x5
DB flat bench press one armed:
17/14/10/9 (now painless since injury!)
Pec fly machine (first time since injury, it worked!)
half of stack (no idea how much): 16/16/16
3/4 of weight stack: 10/10/10
BB shrugs 245lbs
12/10/10 rp 7 rp 6
Cable cross over
2x 55lbs 14/12/12 middle
2x55lbs 15/13/13 low
Cable flies
2x50lbs 11/9/9/9/7
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Weighted pull ups BW 224lbs +35lbs
7/5+1 BW 10
cable Lat push down bar:
90lbs 13/10/10/8/8
seated row
cables 230lbs x 15/14
row machine "life fitness" total stack:
320lbs x5
DB flat bench press one armed:
17/14/10/9 (now painless since injury!)
Pec fly machine (first time since injury, it worked!)
half of stack (no idea how much): 16/16/16
3/4 of weight stack: 10/10/10
BB shrugs 245lbs
12/10/10 rp 7 rp 6
Cable cross over
2x 55lbs 14/12/12 middle
2x55lbs 15/13/13 low
Cable flies
2x50lbs 11/9/9/9/7
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hairygrandpa
Legend
Not the perfect form, lol
...and I moved the whole machine around, when I was finished, the machine stood 5 feet to the right, hahahaha!
MrKleen73
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My advise:
Curb your expectations. I probably gained the same muscle mass on a DMZ cycle, as I did on 650mg test-e/w[/QUOTE] I bet you kept more of it though...
Curb your expectations. I probably gained the same muscle mass on a DMZ cycle, as I did on 650mg test-e/w[/QUOTE] I bet you kept more of it though...
Grip it and rip it!
Tank999
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Looking jacked as all shizzz- something's definitely working!
hairygrandpa
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Sorry for my absence.
Mayor sh1t was hitting the fan at my farm, when the well pump -and the auxiliary pump failed -after a so called engineer burnt it to crisp, because of putting the wrong cables together. Bought a third pump (for ONE well!) to save the situation. Right when it got installed, the re-circulation (oxygen) pump of the fish pond died, because my employee did not put a filter on the suction tube (as I told him) and a fish went straight into the pump, fugging it up.
Had to endure hell while trying to save the animals and fish from dying. Without going into too much detail:
Bananaland's inbred inhabitants suck azz, I wish Adolf Hitler would revive and gas the whole population here. I mean it. EVERYONE!!!
All that stress-cortisol can't be good for my muscles.
Mayor sh1t was hitting the fan at my farm, when the well pump -and the auxiliary pump failed -after a so called engineer burnt it to crisp, because of putting the wrong cables together. Bought a third pump (for ONE well!) to save the situation. Right when it got installed, the re-circulation (oxygen) pump of the fish pond died, because my employee did not put a filter on the suction tube (as I told him) and a fish went straight into the pump, fugging it up.
Had to endure hell while trying to save the animals and fish from dying. Without going into too much detail:
Bananaland's inbred inhabitants suck azz, I wish Adolf Hitler would revive and gas the whole population here. I mean it. EVERYONE!!!
All that stress-cortisol can't be good for my muscles.
mmorso
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You've got a farm? Also man with all the gear your on I'm sure cortisol isn't going to do sh1t but add to the roid rage
hairygrandpa
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Went to the fugging gym, still pissed because humanity sucks:
Landmines two arms, shoulder to shoulder:
100lbs in plate weight:
12/10/10
Landmines one arm:
70lbs plate weight:
9/9/8/7
DB bent over rear delt:
2x50lbs 15/14/12/12
pinky out:
8/8/8
DB lateral rises (not the common way, always tension lowering only 60%):
2x20lbs 14/14/10/7/7/7
Rotator cuff exercises:
total 9 sets
Inclined reverse DB flies:
2x30lbs
12/8/8/11/8
Calf rises seated:
4 sets
BB shrugs:
290lbs
11/10/10
Old man trying to pose, lol, arms without pump (tomorrow is arms day):
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Landmines two arms, shoulder to shoulder:
100lbs in plate weight:
12/10/10
Landmines one arm:
70lbs plate weight:
9/9/8/7
DB bent over rear delt:
2x50lbs 15/14/12/12
pinky out:
8/8/8
DB lateral rises (not the common way, always tension lowering only 60%):
2x20lbs 14/14/10/7/7/7
Rotator cuff exercises:
total 9 sets
Inclined reverse DB flies:
2x30lbs
12/8/8/11/8
Calf rises seated:
4 sets
BB shrugs:
290lbs
11/10/10
Old man trying to pose, lol, arms without pump (tomorrow is arms day):
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hairygrandpa
Legend
Calfs need to pop WAY more, lol.
I'm holding water because of the CJC and NPP -but decided to do nothing about it and push through with the bulk.
Upside is, a moon-face is easier to shave, IMHO.
CJNator
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I'm sure he's somewhere over there if he's still alive lol you can ask him for advice ?
hairygrandpa
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Will find him and begin building gas chambers.
Paraguay could be awesome...without the Paraguayans.
Damn, I'm still pissed... have to calm down, thinking about a Vodka/Orange -or two.
I'm normally only a little bit racist, I bet even the leftist would understand if they had to endure this shyt.
hairygrandpa
Legend
Almost ALL would be better, besides sex, LOL!
SFreed
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I don't know......Some of the best I've had I was by myself. I know all the secret spots!!
BennyMagoo79
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hairygrandpa
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Hmmm....interesting side effect: increased racism
LOL!
-Nazinolone genocidester
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