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Donald Trump running for president

Aleksandar37 said:
I'm not even bothering watching, but same as you, pulling for Atlanta while expecting Patriots to take it.
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I'm not watching either...too much leftist political propaganda for my taste...if I want to watch politics fox news is more to my liking, lol.
 
I am sick of leftist preaching about morals and values....people who support yanking a fully formed fetus out of a uterus and breaking it's neck to kill it have no right to talk morals and values to anyone---PERIOD-THE END!!!!
 
thebigt said:
I am sick of leftist preaching about morals and values....people who support yanking a fully formed fetus out of a uterus and breaking it's neck to kill it have no right to talk morals and values to anyone---PERIOD-THE END!!!!
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Its all hypocrisy, many liberals preach human values, equality and righteousness but support genocide.
 
thebigt said:
I am sick of leftist preaching about morals and values....people who support yanking a fully formed fetus out of a uterus and breaking it's neck to kill it have no right to talk morals and values to anyone---PERIOD-THE END!!!!
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And the right preaching morals and values...people who support lies about medical operations lol. Can't we all just agree to remember those proud men that fought at Bowling Green :P
 
the argument I hear so often from feminist' is ...'it's my body, I can do what I want'...but yet doctor assisted death with the terminally ill is illegal....for it to be legal for a doctor to drag a fully formed fetus out of a womb and break it's neck to kill it....but yet it be illegal for a doctor to assist a terminally ill patient in a dignified death is the height of hypocrisy, imo.
 
thebigt said:
the argument I hear so often from feminist' is ...'it's my body, I can do what I want'...but yet doctor assisted death with the terminally ill is illegal....for it to be legal for a doctor to drag a fully formed fetus out of a womb and break it's neck to kill it....but yet it be illegal for a doctor to assist a terminally ill patient in a dignified death is the height of hypocrisy, imo.
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I dont think that's illegal in all places, is it? I'm pretty sure there are ~5 states where Physician Assisted Suicide is legal.

Edit: and i dont think that's how abortions work lol...although, thats how yourself and other pro-life advocates like to portray the process.
 
jswain34 said:
I dont think that's illegal in all places, is it? I'm pretty sure there are ~5 states where Physician Assisted Suicide is legal.

Edit: and i dont think that's how abortions work lol...although, thats how yourself and other pro-life advocates like to portray the process.
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partial birth abortions are not pretty...if you have the stomach for it google it!!!
 
thebigt said:
partial birth abortions are not pretty...if you have the stomach for it google it!!!
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Its crazy....in one room someone can be in pre-mature labor at 7 months and the doctors will help save its life, but in another room a 8 month they can just snap its neck and its just a "womans" body and she can do whatever she wants with it.
 
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Where do they "break" the baby's neck?
 
jswain34 said:
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Where do they "break" the baby's neck?
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There is going to be different types of procedures, some cases they break the neck in the canal and then extract it, but I havent looked into the current regulations here in the states lately or really want to.
 
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Funny how Google defines fascism differently than Webster. The left loves to change the meaning of words based on their agenda.
 
thebigt said:
I guess you are not totally irredeemable then. anyone who would be in favor of this barbaric act had better pray like hell that there is no GOD!!!
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Liberals favorite Prez Obama had appointed his White House Science Czar John P, Holdren who heavily promoted infanticide to reduce population in his book (that I own) Ecoscience...I wonder how he planned to kill those babies?
 
Misfit28 said:
You obviously haven't read much about fascism beyond two internet definitions.

Many scholars believe fascism to be primarily right-wing because of nationalistic tendencies.
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aren't many left wingers in favor of communism?

hitler on the right...stalin on the left.........maybe they should have just arm wrestled and saved millions of lives!!!!:sasmokin:
 
actually hitler was a socialist...look up the meaning of Nazi....also u.s.s.r-you will find find socialist in both.

lol...hitler was a democrat:laugh:
 
You mean this?

But "partial birth abortion" isn't actually a thing *– it's a term made up by activists to make abortion seem gruesome. It's used to focus attention on later abortions, which make many supporters of legal abortion queasy, and to vilify women who have them.

Which is cruel. Women have later abortions when something has gone terribly wrong – often the loss of a wanted pregnancy. But anti-abortion advocates have successfully used their tragedies to garner support for anti-abortion policies.

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The above quote is not mine, I googled it to give your question a respective answer with added perspective.
I find life to be precious in all forms.

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This reminds me of a joke:

A politician dies and finds himself at the Gates of Heaven, and there is St. Peter with a smile on his face to greet the gent. He tells the man, we have a new policy. One must spend a day in hell before making their choice of where they wish to spend eternity. The man looks at him quizzically and before you know it, St. Peter snaps his fingers and the man awakes in a beautiful bed, in a penthouse suite at the beach.

He looks around and there is the Devil dressed in an amazingly bright suit and sits next to him with a big smile. How do you like it he asks beaming and giddy. The man is stunned.. he says, it's amazing, this is hell?

The Devil replies oh yes! We have all sorts of great events, and oh my, I almost forgot, your wife? He claps his hands and a super model enters the room and comes over to him... the Devil gives the man a peck on the cheek and rushes off saying, cannot wait to show you the amenities later.

The man has an amazing time, and the Devil is the coolest dude he's ever met. Everything he's ever wanted is his for the taking, and everyone in hell is so fun; and they adore him. What is going on here? Well, he has the best night of sleep in his life, wakes up and there he is in front of St. Peter again...

St. Peter askes, well? What did you think?
The Politician replies, I'll go back to hell, that place is great!
St. Peter snaps his fingers, says very well, you're off to hell.

A moment later the man wakes up and he smells sulfur and brimstone... it's hot and humid and the devil appears in fire..
He asks the Devil, what's this? Where is the penthouse suite?, and everything else?

The devil replies, oh, that was yesterday when we were campaigning, and voting ended this morning. :D
 
justhere4comm said:
You mean this?



The above quote is not mine, I googled it to give your question a respective answer with added perspective.
I find life to be precious in all forms.

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This reminds me of a joke:

A politician dies and finds himself at the Gates of Heaven, and there is St. Peter with a smile on his face to greet the gent. He tells the man, we have a new policy. One must spend a day in hell before making their choice of where they wish to spend eternity. The man looks at him quizzically and before you know it, St. Peter snaps his fingers and the man awakes in a beautiful bed, in a penthouse suite at the beach.

He looks around and there is the Devil dressed in an amazingly bright suit and sits next to him with a big smile. How do you like it he asks beaming and giddy. The man is stunned.. he says, it's amazing, this is hell?

The Devil replies oh yes! We have all sorts of great events, and oh my, I almost forgot, your wife? He claps his hands and a super model enters the room and comes over to him... the Devil gives the man a peck on the cheek and rushes off saying, cannot wait to show you the amenities later.

The man has an amazing time, and the Devil is the coolest dude he's ever met. Everything he's ever wanted is his for the taking, and everyone in hell is so fun; and they adore him. What is going on here? Well, he has the best night of sleep in his life, wakes up and there he is in front of St. Peter again...

St. Peter askes, well? What did you think?
The Politician replies, I'll go back to hell, that place is great!
St. Peter snaps his fingers, says very well, you're off to hell.

A moment later the man wakes up and he smells sulfur and brimstone... it's hot and humid and the devil appears in fire..
He asks the Devil, what's this? Where is the penthouse suite?, and everything else?

The devil replies, oh, that was yesterday when we were campaigning, and voting ended this morning. :D
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such long winded replies...either you are for or against partial birth abortions---a simple yes or no will suffice.
 
thebigt said:
such long winded replies...either you are for or against partial birth abortions---a simple yes or no will suffice.
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No.

You're not going to get a simple yes or no answer. There are so many things in this discussion you have gotten wrong or half-assed it's about as funny as my joke in the previous post. I'm perplexed that you could actually believe some of the things you write which are reminiscent of knowledge unlearned rather regurgitated from capricious sources.

Hitler was a National Socialist which in today's terms translates to Right Wing conservative blowhard with a penitent for killing those whom disagreed with his ideas. He also suffered from Neuro-Syphillis which made him paranoid; grandiosity; mania; sudden violent and criminal behavior. Let's not call him some 'label' and say this is what today's people are like because of it. He was a sick man. Reminds me of another man in a position of power whom has health issues, not unlike Hitler. As a matter of fact, this man studied Hitler's speeches and kept them in his night stand next to his bed. Even gifted with a copy of Mein Kampf. Of course I would never pretend to think Hitler wrote that book, it was written by Rudolf Hess.

"National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy."
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Life isn't about a simple yes or no.
 
thebigt said:
the argument I hear so often from feminist' is ...'it's my body, I can do what I want'...but yet doctor assisted death with the terminally ill is illegal....for it to be legal for a doctor to drag a fully formed fetus out of a womb and break it's neck to kill it....but yet it be illegal for a doctor to assist a terminally ill patient in a dignified death is the height of hypocrisy, imo.
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Seriously, where are you getting this information from? Don't tell me to google it because you're not getting accurate info.
 
justhere4comm said:
No.

You're not going to get a simple yes or no answer. There are so many things in this discussion you have gotten wrong or half-assed it's about as funny as my joke in the previous post. I'm perplexed that you could actually believe some of the things you write which are reminiscent of knowledge unlearned rather regurgitated from capricious sources.

Hitler was a National Socialist which in today's terms translates to Right Wing conservative blowhard with a penitent for killing those whom disagreed with his ideas. He also suffered from Neuro-Syphillis which made him paranoid; grandiosity; mania; sudden violent and criminal behavior. Let's not call him some 'label' and say this is what today's people are like because of it. He was a sick man. Reminds me of another man in a position of power whom has health issues, not unlike Hitler. As a matter of fact, this man studied Hitler's speeches and kept them in his night stand next to his bed. Even gifted with a copy of Mein Kampf. Of course I would never pretend to think Hitler wrote that book, it was written by Rudolf Hess.



Life isn't about a simple yes or no.
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I'm sure lots of people, especially politicians and people who speak and/or write speeches, especially political speeches, have read and/or own that book. There are enough things to say about Trump that are much more legitimate and less speculative than this.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
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I did some research and found that in 2007 the supreme court ruled against partial birth abortions, so my statement that it is legal for a doctor to perform partial birth abortions was incorrect.


I hereby stand corrected, I was wrong!!!
 
thebigt said:
I did some research and found that in 2007 the supreme court ruled against partial birth abortions, so my statement that it is legal for a doctor to perform partial birth abortions was incorrect.


I hereby stand corrected, I was wrong!!!
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There are people that want to overturn that of course, so its always going to be an issue. Still a issue in other countries to the day.
 
thebigt said:
I did some research and found that in 2007 the supreme court ruled against partial birth abortions, so my statement that it is legal for a doctor to perform partial birth abortions was incorrect.


I hereby stand corrected, I was wrong!!!
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I just looked it up, it covers a technique of late term abortion. Late term abortion is still legal with various limits depending on the state. To me I dont care what some judge or doctor calls it, its a freaking live baby to me. Im not the "anti-abortion" kind of person myself, but I would limit it to around 12-16 weeks unless there are some serious medical concerns. We have to draw the line somewhere and to me its still too high.
 
"Are you discussing law or religion? If the law, use legal terms, if religion, you're talking to a wall."
 
I discuss what I know.

So, the separation of church; state, and mind. In that case, I prefer to discuss anything factual, and recuse myself from the conversation per example:

I feel as though, I'm being confirmed for a position with the administration.

"Do you believe it's ok to have guns in schools?"
"I believe in accountability"
"Just a yes or no answer please"
"I believe in accountability"

I'm not qualified at all; I'm a billionaire; female, and have given millions in donations to the GOP, so confirm me.
Now, make me the Czar of Schools.

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Factual:

How about Donald Trump calling out the "so-called Judge" whom put his executive order on hold? I found out the Judge was appointed by George Bush. Maybe he should have checked up on that basic information before making such an idiotic statement. He has a penchant for picking fights. (President Trump).

Anyone else seeing a trend and a consistency here in comparison with a former dictator? Poor impulse control is a definite sign. The issue with being grandiose. This is most likely a medical malady emanating from years of not being diagnosed. I'd like to see his medical report, and by the way, his taxes too.
 
justhere4comm said:

Anyone else seeing a trend and a consistency here in comparison with a former dictator?
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Just 1 less executive order than the Fuhrer Obama (who you say is a good president) had signed into law at the same amount of time into presidency. Looks like we are heading a better direction away from dictatorship if you wanna do the math.
 
thebigt said:
I did some research and found that in 2007 the supreme court ruled against partial birth abortions, so my statement that it is legal for a doctor to perform partial birth abortions was incorrect.


I hereby stand corrected, I was wrong!!!
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We can still discuss it because as ax1 points out, it's always going to be an issue with people either advocating for or against it. I was asking your source because nobody is ripping fetuses out and breaking their necks. I'm not saying that what is actually happening isn't gruesome.

Also, you're expecting a black or white answer when you ask if somebody is for or against it, but it's an extremely complicated issue. That's like asking if you're for or against killing. Some people are against killing in any form and some draw a difference between what happens in war and some psycho who does a drive by.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
We can still discuss it because as ax1 points out, it's always going to be an issue with people either advocating for or against it. I was asking your source because nobody is ripping fetuses out and breaking their necks. I'm not saying that what is actually happening isn't gruesome.

Also, you're expecting a black or white answer when you ask if somebody is for or against it, but it's an extremely complicated issue. That's like asking if you're for or against killing. Some people are against killing in any form and some draw a difference between what happens in war and some psycho who does a drive by.
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There are people who consider squashing the fetus just like squashing a bug....then there are people who are against killing bugs (some buddhists for example). Clashes in perspectives are endless.
 
"Do you think our country is so innocent?"

You go Daddy....keep giving the American people more truth bombs!!!! +points for Dump!
 
justhere4comm said:
"Are you discussing law or religion? If the law, use legal terms, if religion, you're talking to a wall."
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what.....are you now the dictator of the chat forum, lol.

c'mon man, we are not making law here-we are just a bunch of guys giving opinions, nothing more, nothing less...this is after all a chat sub-forum on a bodybuilding website, not the Harvard law review!!!
 
Aleksandar37 said:
We can still discuss it because as ax1 points out, it's always going to be an issue with people either advocating for or against it. I was asking your source because nobody is ripping fetuses out and breaking their necks. I'm not saying that what is actually happening isn't gruesome.

Also, you're expecting a black or white answer when you ask if somebody is for or against it, but it's an extremely complicated issue. That's like asking if you're for or against killing. Some people are against killing in any form and some draw a difference between what happens in war and some psycho who does a drive by.
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of course we can still discuss it, that is what this is-a chat forum, geez...
 
thebigt said:
what.....are you now the dictator of the chat forum, lol.

c'mon man, we are not making law here-we are just a bunch of guys giving opinions, nothing more, nothing less...this is after all a chat sub-forum on a bodybuilding website, not the Harvard law review!!!
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I'm negotiating terms.
 
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