Anyone not respond well to LGD?

[Choppedjunior]

in PCT, just met with my trainer and did my weigh- in and BF.%....It seems as though i lost muscle mass and bf% went up. I did go on the Tanita Scale after a workout, which reading online i guess this can over estimate bf, so this could have messed things up, but if the bf% comes back down to 8% then I'm assuming I probably gained about 3lbs of Lean Mass over 6 weeks at 8mg.

I have a very structured diet, was eating a bit less then normally probably around 3600 instead of the usual 4200. during a couple weeks of the cycle as well as a week off and light training due to shoulder injury. So I can justify the 3lbs or so...but if the scale doesn't correct itself when using prior to a workout i don't see how this would make any sense.


is this typical? It frustrates me seeing some logs people are gaining 10-15, even 20lbs of mass. Maybe a lot is fat?

 

[user567]

in PCT, just met with my trainer and did my weigh- in and BF.%....It seems as though i lost muscle mass and bf% went up. I did go on the Tanita Scale after a workout, which reading online i guess this can over estimate bf, so this could have messed things up, but if the bf% comes back down to 8% then I'm assuming I probably gained about 3lbs of Lean Mass over 6 weeks at 8mg.

I have a very structured diet, was eating a bit less then normally probably around 3600 instead of the usual 4200. during a couple weeks of the cycle as well as a week off and light training due to shoulder injury. So I can justify the 3lbs or so...but if the scale doesn't correct itself when using prior to a workout i don't see how this would make any sense.


is this typical? It frustrates me seeing some logs people are gaining 10-15, even 20lbs of mass. Maybe a lot is fat?

Im on week 6. Only gained 2 pounds so far but have also been in a slight deficit. Not seeing the pump or fullness in the muscles. Meanwhile my total test has dropped 200 points. very clear a calorie surplus is a must to see any real benefit. I will continue to run it 8 to 10 weeks depending on my test levels. Taking dermacrine which is doing nothing for me

 

[smith_69]

in PCT, just met with my trainer and did my weigh- in and BF.%....It seems as though i lost muscle mass and bf% went up. I did go on the Tanita Scale after a workout, which reading online i guess this can over estimate bf, so this could have messed things up, but if the bf% comes back down to 8% then I'm assuming I probably gained about 3lbs of Lean Mass over 6 weeks at 8mg.

I have a very structured diet, was eating a bit less then normally probably around 3600 instead of the usual 4200. during a couple weeks of the cycle as well as a week off and light training due to shoulder injury. So I can justify the 3lbs or so...but if the scale doesn't correct itself when using prior to a workout i don't see how this would make any sense.


is this typical? It frustrates me seeing some logs people are gaining 10-15, even 20lbs of mass. Maybe a lot is fat?

how much were you taking?
How long were you taking it for?
what else where you taking with this?
what sort of training were you doing- x amount of times per week etc

have to remember, gains of 8-12 in 12-14 weeks is still a lot, expecting anything more than this will result in a huge disappointment

 

[Choppedjunior]

how much were you taking?
How long were you taking it for?
what else where you taking with this?
what sort of training were you doing- x amount of times per week etc

have to remember, gains of 8-12 in 12-14 weeks is still a lot, expecting anything more than this will result in a huge disappointment

8mg
6 weeks
ran it solo
training 5x a week, 3x a week with my trainer. on a hypertrophy style routine.

i would be ecstatic if i saw gains of 8-12 in 12 week run. but I'm thinking if i even saw any it would be around 3lbs in 6 weeks. maybe was just too short of a run and diet wasn't surplus enough.

 

[Choppedjunior]

Im on week 6. Only gained 2 pounds so far but have also been in a slight deficit. Not seeing the pump or fullness in the muscles. Meanwhile my total test has dropped 200 points. very clear a calorie surplus is a must to see any real benefit. I will continue to run it 8 to 10 weeks depending on my test levels. Taking dermacrine which is doing nothing for me

yeah so maybe that was the issue. didnt eat enough. I never saw the pump, did feel a bit full in the biceps, still do, and i know i lost bf as abs are sticking through my shirts. I am praying the scale was f'ed up yesterday and doing after a workout skewed the biometric results as it would basically say in a year i gained no muscle mass, but if balances correctly then i put on good size this year and about 2-3lbs for this lgd run. It just a huge head game for me and had me super depressed.

 

[Alpha1a]

Happened to me bro , lost 3 lbs looked worse and felt like crap . tried it twice with two diferent brands never felt good of it . My diet was on point too, same diet I gained 18lbs with the andros so could just be the lgd too

 

[Nac]

is this typical? It frustrates me seeing some logs people are gaining 10-15, even 20lbs of mass. Maybe a lot is fat?

Lol course alot of it is fat and water. Most people are anything but objective at accurately eyeballing their own body composition.

 

[Moo37]

It takes at least a week or two for LGD to kick in, so a six week run is pretty short, and given the former a 6 week run can not be interpolated as half a 12 week cycle. LGD solo will also inhibit your natural test production, so without any sort of test base the LGD will cause a sort of pharmacodynamic-inhibition, where you're inputting anabolic substances but also inhibiting others. Given both of the above and the mishap with the shoulder injury, I would think relatively modest gains as a reasonable outcome.

 

[Choppedjunior]

It takes at least a week or two for LGD to kick in, so a six week run is pretty short, and given the former a 6 week run can not be interpolated as half a 12 week cycle. LGD solo will also inhibit your natural test production, so without any sort of test base the LGD will cause a sort of pharmacodynamic-inhibition, where you're inputting anabolic substances but also inhibiting others. Given both of the above and the mishap with the shoulder injury, I would think relatively modest gains as a reasonable outcome.

Thanks for the input. I will give LGD one more shot, was going to run it alongside MK for 12 weeks, and the final 6 weeks, add in transdermal trest and oral trest. guess ill see how it goes.

 

[thorsdad31]

Im on week 6. Only gained 2 pounds so far but have also been in a slight deficit. Not seeing the pump or fullness in the muscles. Meanwhile my total test has dropped 200 points. very clear a calorie surplus is a must to see any real benefit. I will continue to run it 8 to 10 weeks depending on my test levels. Taking dermacrine which is doing nothing for me

How many pumps of derma are u using im on my 4th week of a 12 week run 10mgs of lgd 6pumps of dermacrine taking both in the morning pwo and I'm seeing great results started at 285lbs weighed in a few days ago at 289lbs heres my log if u wana check it out

 

[user567]

How many pumps of derma are u using im on my 4th week of a 12 week run 10mgs of lgd 6pumps of dermacrine taking both in the morning pwo and I'm seeing great results started at 285lbs weighed in a few days ago at 289lbs heres my log if u wana check it out

4 pumps. Do you have bloods? So i maxed out today and my strength is definitely way up. Hopefully will see a few more pounds in the next few weeks. I have abandoned the deficit to see if I can turn this around.

 

[thorsdad31]

4 pumps. Do you have bloods? So i maxed out today and my strength is definitely way up. Hopefully will see a few more pounds in the next few weeks. I have abandoned the deficit to see if I can turn this around.

I don't but my body feels great sleep is good libido is high and strength is climbing each week

 

[Vikingbro]

Lol course alot of it is fat and water. Most people are anything but objective at accurately eyeballing their own body composition.

I've just completed a 1/4/Epi andro cycle 10 weeks and gained 20 pounds. Guess what though, half fat/half muscle. This was shown on my body scan measurement. I also lost a further 5 pounds of water 2 weeks into PCT.

 

[Geoffr]

Can you provide a reliable source for your dermacrine you use? Thanks!