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Yeah but for most of us easy gainers it takes a little more time to lose muscle. I can be off the gym for a month and barely lose any size at all. I kind of doubt he lost too much muscle there. I could be way off though.





Cutting is mostly discipline and energy expenditure. You NEVER have to do traditional cardio if you don't want to. Circuit training will lean you up just as fast if not faster than typical cardio. So will GPP, and calisthenics complexes. They also have the benefit of stimulating collagen, and other protein synthesis.

Grandpa, I challenge you to avoid the slin, and do your diet right. Not to be a d!ckwad or anything but before going to something as possibly dangerous as insulin you should have your crap together regarding your diet. All of the mental adjusting and tweaking, or gear is not going to get you there if you don't get your nutrition squared away. I mean if you are willing to go after your health without fixing the diet why not just say screw it and go with DNP? It is a lot more predictable, and both can easily kill you if not used correctly.

I would think after "listening" to you that the best diet for you would be Carb Backloading. You will definitely lean up but you can still train like an animal and still make strength gains in a deficit. That way every night you can get some of the goodies you like and just have to really control yourself during the day. Very simple premise. The key is to not go overboard on the backload. Too many people try it and go over their caloric needs treating the carb load like a free for all. You still keep your calories as they should be but cram most of them into the post workout or evening back load.

Thanks for the advise, it's highly appreciated! I still haven't figured out what's best for me, diet wise. Tried backloading a few times in the past but fell for the over-backloading you mentioned.
I'm a bit like HIT4ME. Going extreme -or don't go at all. I'm more comfortable with eating nothing, than restricting my diet.
Probably I'll go for protein shakes only for 10 days, to see how it goes, later switching to TKD -or something.

I'm aware of the risk using slin, but I'm eager to try it one day at low dose -and in a bulking cycle together with GH in form of CJC1295.
Already took IGF-LR3, with supposedly slin like sides.
 
The cruise dose of 250mg test/week stalls most of the muscle wasting, if protein is kept high.
I decided to do another attempt of getting leaner, starting in about 2 weeks when cruise is over.

As Kaprice know by now, the struggle is real, especially if you want more muscles -but also have to lose fat. For me it's a mental dilemma. If I eat less = no muscle growth and sh1tty workouts. Deciding to go for a cut = all fun off.
I have to pull my sh1t together, get lean for once and stay that way, damn!

You said it first, before MrKleen73 - you have to pull your sh1t together!

I think you and most people have this idea that you cannot build muscles without an extreme caloric surplus. The thing is, it's all metabolic processes, right? You stimulate growth and your body has to do work, which takes calories. If it HAS to adapt and CAN, it will, right?

Well, that means that, yes, you need a caloric surplus in the sense that you need more calories than what you directly burned for the day in what most of us consider TDEE. But us fat guys forget - we have STORED calories ready to go. Sure it takes a little more work to get to these calories; but we can still grow in a deficit even unless the deficit becomes so large that we cannot release enough calories to cover your TDEE including these adaptations...The adaptations will take a back seat in that case.

Of course I'm not saying you will gain like you are on a bulking cycle, just that you can still make gains. Saying you can't gain on a diet is a little bit of an excuse IMO. Especially if your taking anabolic substances.

Yeah but for most of us easy gainers it takes a little more time to lose muscle. I can be off the gym for a month and barely lose any size at all. I kind of doubt he lost too much muscle there. I could be way off though.





Cutting is mostly discipline and energy expenditure. You NEVER have to do traditional cardio if you don't want to. Circuit training will lean you up just as fast if not faster than typical cardio. So will GPP, and calisthenics complexes. They also have the benefit of stimulating collagen, and other protein synthesis.

Grandpa, I challenge you to avoid the slin, and do your diet right. Not to be a d!ckwad or anything but before going to something as possibly dangerous as insulin you should have your crap together regarding your diet. All of the mental adjusting and tweaking, or gear is not going to get you there if you don't get your nutrition squared away. I mean if you are willing to go after your health without fixing the diet why not just say screw it and go with DNP? It is a lot more predictable, and both can easily kill you if not used correctly.

I would think after "listening" to you that the best diet for you would be Carb Backloading. You will definitely lean up but you can still train like an animal and still make strength gains in a deficit. That way every night you can get some of the goodies you like and just have to really control yourself during the day. Very simple premise. The key is to not go overboard on the backload. Too many people try it and go over their caloric needs treating the carb load like a free for all. You still keep your calories as they should be but cram most of them into the post workout or evening back load.

As usual, wise words.

Thanks for the advise, it's highly appreciated! I still haven't figured out what's best for me, diet wise. Tried backloading a few times in the past but fell for the over-backloading you mentioned.
I'm a bit like HIT4ME. Going extreme -or don't go at all. I'm more comfortable with eating nothing, than restricting my diet.
Probably I'll go for protein shakes only for 10 days, to see how it goes, later switching to TKD -or something.

I'm aware of the risk using slin, but I'm eager to try it one day at low dose -and in a bulking cycle together with GH in form of CJC1295.
Already took IGF-LR3, with supposedly slin like sides.

I think you know the drugs won't help without getting your act together, but you kind of hope they will anyway. I am the same way when I take stuff. I want it to work so bad....But really I know better.

I think what MrKleen73 is trying to say is, taking something like slin is pretty risky, and if your diet isn't on lockdown, it becomes even more risky and less likely to work as you hope.

What I am finding is that adding in a bunch of fats really helps satiety and energy and greatly reduces cravings. I think it has a lot to do with leptin from such extreme dieting for so long. Increasing fats seems to have had an impact, particularly coconut oil.

Of course my protein is routinely around 140-175 g per day with that. Taking 50-60 g of fat with that protein keeps me pretty damned satisfied at around 1200 calories per day.

I agree with MrKleen73 that you should focus less on the drugs and more on the plan. I know you got this...You've been running this log for a LONG time and made big changes. You are no stranger to hard work.
 
You said it first, before MrKleen73 - you have to pull your sh1t together!

I think you and most people have this idea that you cannot build muscles without an extreme caloric surplus. The thing is, it's all metabolic processes, right? You stimulate growth and your body has to do work, which takes calories. If it HAS to adapt and CAN, it will, right?

Well, that means that, yes, you need a caloric surplus in the sense that you need more calories than what you directly burned for the day in what most of us consider TDEE. But us fat guys forget - we have STORED calories ready to go. Sure it takes a little more work to get to these calories; but we can still grow in a deficit even unless the deficit becomes so large that we cannot release enough calories to cover your TDEE including these adaptations...The adaptations will take a back seat in that case.

Of course I'm not saying you will gain like you are on a bulking cycle, just that you can still make gains. Saying you can't gain on a diet is a little bit of an excuse IMO. Especially if your taking anabolic substances.



As usual, wise words.



I think you know the drugs won't help without getting your act together, but you kind of hope they will anyway. I am the same way when I take stuff. I want it to work so bad....But really I know better.

I think what MrKleen73 is trying to say is, taking something like slin is pretty risky, and if your diet isn't on lockdown, it becomes even more risky and less likely to work as you hope.

What I am finding is that adding in a bunch of fats really helps satiety and energy and greatly reduces cravings. I think it has a lot to do with leptin from such extreme dieting for so long. Increasing fats seems to have had an impact, particularly coconut oil.

Of course my protein is routinely around 140-175 g per day with that. Taking 50-60 g of fat with that protein keeps me pretty damned satisfied at around 1200 calories per day.

I agree with MrKleen73 that you should focus less on the drugs and more on the plan. I know you got this...You've been running this log for a LONG time and made big changes. You are no stranger to hard work.

Yep, will do. Will show discipline and work hard.... AND take a ****load of drugs, LOL
 
Yep, will do. Will show discipline and work hard.... AND take a ****load of drugs, LOL

This is one thing I can totally respect about you. You do not make any qualms about the fact you will use the gear to make up for lack of using discipline in order to get the results. That's respectable. A lot of people who do gear and not focus on diet will get upset when lack of discipline in other areas is mentioned. People do not want to admit they are taking a shortcut. I myself do not see anything wrong with taking a well planned shortcut so long as you are aware that is what you are doing and aware of the trade offs associated with it.

Just keep in mind all of your extreme diets result in a rebound. Also when doing Backloading it can be extreme if you make it. A lot less food early in the day and a lot more in the evening makes it pretty extreme. It is one of those things that if you cant refrain from your tempation foods you can indule after each workout just plan how many calories you will take in. You could do 500-1000 cals early in the day and 1500-2000 in your post workout feeding window. Sounds like the only thing you forgot was to actually track your refeeds. Makes a HUGE difference.
 
This is one thing I can totally respect about you. You do not make any qualms about the fact you will use the gear to make up for lack of using discipline in order to get the results. That's respectable. A lot of people who do gear and not focus on diet will get upset when lack of discipline in other areas is mentioned. People do not want to admit they are taking a shortcut. I myself do not see anything wrong with taking a well planned shortcut so long as you are aware that is what you are doing and aware of the trade offs associated with it.

Just keep in mind all of your extreme diets result in a rebound. Also when doing Backloading it can be extreme if you make it. A lot less food early in the day and a lot more in the evening makes it pretty extreme. It is one of those things that if you cant refrain from your tempation foods you can indule after each workout just plan how many calories you will take in. You could do 500-1000 cals early in the day and 1500-2000 in your post workout feeding window. Sounds like the only thing you forgot was to actually track your refeeds. Makes a HUGE difference.

Thank you for being so open to my approach! Will be careful at using anything, as I learned a lot lately how I respond to AAS. For instance, I feel better on minimum dosages, like a cruise, than on a fistful of gear. Lately I have no problems holding the current weight, that gives me hope that when I reach my goal (14-17% BF, seeing a hint of abs, no underwear model) I actually can stay this way. My workouts are between 20.40 hr and 22.00 hr, eating much of my cals post workout is sort of unavoidable for me.

Will keep better track on cals and macross this time and up cardio (Jeez, I hate it so much).
Thanks again big boss, you are inspiring!
 
This is one thing I can totally respect about you. You do not make any qualms about the fact you will use the gear to make up for lack of using discipline in order to get the results. That's respectable. A lot of people who do gear and not focus on diet will get upset when lack of discipline in other areas is mentioned. People do not want to admit they are taking a shortcut. I myself do not see anything wrong with taking a well planned shortcut so long as you are aware that is what you are doing and aware of the trade offs associated with it.

Just keep in mind all of your extreme diets result in a rebound. Also when doing Backloading it can be extreme if you make it. A lot less food early in the day and a lot more in the evening makes it pretty extreme. It is one of those things that if you cant refrain from your tempation foods you can indule after each workout just plan how many calories you will take in. You could do 500-1000 cals early in the day and 1500-2000 in your post workout feeding window. Sounds like the only thing you forgot was to actually track your refeeds. Makes a HUGE difference.

I have seem many of your posts that are incredibly knowledgeable and helpful, but I think this might be one of you best...bravo-KLEEN!!!
 
This is one thing I can totally respect about you. You do not make any qualms about the fact you will use the gear to make up for lack of using discipline in order to get the results. That's respectable. A lot of people who do gear and not focus on diet will get upset when lack of discipline in other areas is mentioned. People do not want to admit they are taking a shortcut. I myself do not see anything wrong with taking a well planned shortcut so long as you are aware that is what you are doing and aware of the trade offs associated with it.

Just keep in mind all of your extreme diets result in a rebound. Also when doing Backloading it can be extreme if you make it. A lot less food early in the day and a lot more in the evening makes it pretty extreme. It is one of those things that if you cant refrain from your tempation foods you can indule after each workout just plan how many calories you will take in. You could do 500-1000 cals early in the day and 1500-2000 in your post workout feeding window. Sounds like the only thing you forgot was to actually track your refeeds. Makes a HUGE difference.

Everyone has different opinions and strategies, and it's easy to apply our own situations to someone else's life (human nature) - but I have to say that Hairygrandpa is a flexible thinker that doesn't take criticisms of his strategies personally. From what I've seen, he is somewhat like me (I hope) - when someone brings a new idea up or a criticism, we are slow to change and adapt and people may not think we are listening, but we are. We just have to mull things around, keep it in our heads, figure out what we believe and what fits, experiment and eventually incorporate it.

And on the other side, MrKleen73 - I have to say, you are one of the FEW people on here who I really, really respect the dieting advise you give. A lot of times I think people read too many diet books and articles and never actually research, experiment, and DO. I can tell you've done it all, and I really trust your knowledge and input.
 
Everyone has different opinions and strategies, and it's easy to apply our own situations to someone else's life (human nature) - but I have to say that Hairygrandpa is a flexible thinker that doesn't take criticisms of his strategies personally. From what I've seen, he is somewhat like me (I hope) - when someone brings a new idea up or a criticism, we are slow to change and adapt and people may not think we are listening, but we are. We just have to mull things around, keep it in our heads, figure out what we believe and what fits, experiment and eventually incorporate it.

And on the other side, MrKleen73 - I have to say, you are one of the FEW people on here who I really, really respect the dieting advise you give. A lot of times I think people read too many diet books and articles and never actually research, experiment, and DO. I can tell you've done it all, and I really trust your knowledge and input.

Well put! Reflecting my thoughts to the point!
I heard uncountable times in my life, that my approach on things is not possible. Most of the time I evaluated the objections and pushed through with my idea anyway. What happened was, I got successful in business, successful in construction, gardening -and innovative aguaponics.
Did I fail in some projects? You bet! I lived homeless in my car for awhile because of a failed business attempt. My guess would be, 60% of anything I tried without listening failed.
I like to taste my own failures first hand -even though I sure listening what others say and may change my approach a little.
It has to do with the fact I was on my own when I was 16yo. No family support since then. I'm grateful for it, it made me who I am.
 
HG, how's the DMAA and EC affecting your prostate? I used a high DMAA preworkout yesterday and had a super hard time with urination - DMAA does this to me.
 
Hit, apparently, there's DMAA in Octadrene Hardcore, of which I take 1 capsule daily. (normally take Saturday and/or Sunday off).

It hasn't appeared to affect my urination.

OTOH, I can't say I notice ANYTHING from it. No additional energy. No change in appetite. No change in temperature. And I can't tell if it's improving fat loss.

I'll keep taking my current supply, but won't likely replenish it.
 
Thank you for being so open to my approach! Will be careful at using anything, as I learned a lot lately how I respond to AAS. For instance, I feel better on minimum dosages, like a cruise, than on a fistful of gear. Lately I have no problems holding the current weight, that gives me hope that when I reach my goal (14-17% BF, seeing a hint of abs, no underwear model) I actually can stay this way. My workouts are between 20.40 hr and 22.00 hr, eating much of my cals post workout is sort of unavoidable for me.

Will keep better track on cals and macross this time and up cardio (Jeez, I hate it so much).
Thanks again big boss, you are inspiring!

I have seem many of your posts that are incredibly knowledgeable and helpful, but I think this might be one of you best...bravo-KLEEN!!!
Thanks BigT!
Everyone has different opinions and strategies, and it's easy to apply our own situations to someone else's life (human nature) - but I have to say that Hairygrandpa is a flexible thinker that doesn't take criticisms of his strategies personally. From what I've seen, he is somewhat like me (I hope) - when someone brings a new idea up or a criticism, we are slow to change and adapt and people may not think we are listening, but we are. We just have to mull things around, keep it in our heads, figure out what we believe and what fits, experiment and eventually incorporate it.

And on the other side, MrKleen73 - I have to say, you are one of the FEW people on here who I really, really respect the dieting advise you give. A lot of times I think people read too many diet books and articles and never actually research, experiment, and DO. I can tell you've done it all, and I really trust your knowledge and input.
Thanks brother!
Well put! Reflecting my thoughts to the point!
I heard uncountable times in my life, that my approach on things is not possible. Most of the time I evaluated the objections and pushed through with my idea anyway. What happened was, I got successful in business, successful in construction, gardening -and innovative aguaponics.
Did I fail in some projects? You bet! I lived homeless in my car for awhile because of a failed business attempt. My guess would be, 60% of anything I tried without listening failed.
I like to taste my own failures first hand -even though I sure listening what others say and may change my approach a little.
It has to do with the fact I was on my own when I was 16yo. No family support since then. I'm grateful for it, it made me who I am.
Hey your drive and ability to take action even if imperfect action has served you quite well. I tend to over analyze things to the point of often not getting them started with myself. However it is much easier to be objective and apply my knowledge with others.

HG, how's the DMAA and EC affecting your prostate? I used a high DMAA preworkout yesterday and had a super hard time with urination - DMAA does this to me.

Yeah it is pretty bad about it but it isn't actually the prostate, things that open you up up top have a tendency to inflame the cells around the urethra. It is the same result, not being able to urinate well but is not actually an enlarging of the prostate. My doc explained it to me in detail a while back. I don't remember them all but that is the general gist of it. One thing that really helps with that is Stinging Nettle root extract. It has a nice side of binding to SHBG so it can increase free testosterone a little. Not to the point the extremely high extract in dyvanil does but a little bit.
 
HG, how's the DMAA and EC affecting your prostate? I used a high DMAA preworkout yesterday and had a super hard time with urination - DMAA does this to me.
Never noticed an effect on prostate -but it curves my libido and causes somewhat of insomnia. It shines for me as an appetite suppressant though.
 
Shower thought:

Give Trenbolone to a cow and THIS happens:

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The cow did not work out and had a very low protein diet.
Even though we are no cows, why the hell work out so hard while on steroids?
 
Shower thought:

Give Trenbolone to a cow and THIS happens:

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The cow did not work out and had a very low protein diet.
Even though we are no cows, why the hell work out so hard while on steroids?

Slower metabolism, they mostly eat all day(lucky mofos), and it's probably metabolites differently in them.
 
AAS and peptide update:

In a few days my cruise is over. I decided to repeat my bulking attempt, since the last one, with fake orals, went down the drain.

Already bought a sh1tload of NPP and peptides, this is the master plan:

12 weeks:
Test-E 300mg/week (3x100mg)
NPP 100mg/day Sunday off / total 600mg/week (if sides appear may lowering dose)
CJC-1295 w. dac: 1mg/week
CJC no dac: 150mcg/day before bed
IGF1-DES: bilateral before workouts in muscles being trained 70mcg each.
MGF -PEG: after workout 150mcg
Ancillaries:
Adex: 0.5mg eod
Caber: 0.25mg twice/week
Huperzine: 2x 200mcg/day

Goal is to get my weight up from 215lbs to 240lbs, then cut.
 
Shower thought:

Give Trenbolone to a cow and THIS happens:

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The cow did not work out and had a very low protein diet.
Even though we are no cows, why the hell work out so hard while on steroids?

You remind me of when I was in high school. I had a "Flex" magazine and my friend who worked out with me but knew almost nothing about nutrition or supplements, etc. - was thumbing through it and came across an ad that had a picture of a huge, muscular gorilla that asked something like, "A gorilla eats almost nothing but greens. Their diet has no meat and is low protein. Yet they can bench press 1000 pounds. Why do you need so much protein? How can a Gorilla get so big on such small amounts of protein?" (the ad was for something like ecdysterone to increase protein synthesis).

My friend looked at the ad and instantly said, "Ummm, because it's a fukkin' gorilla?"
 
AAS and peptide update:

In a few days my cruise is over. I decided to repeat my bulking attempt, since the last one, with fake orals, went down the drain.

Already bought a sh1tload of NPP and peptides, this is the master plan:

12 weeks:
Test-E 300mg/week (3x100mg)
NPP 100mg/day Sunday off / total 600mg/week (if sides appear may lowering dose)
CJC-1295 w. dac: 1mg/week
CJC no dac: 150mcg/day before bed
IGF1-DES: bilateral before workouts in muscles being trained 70mcg each.
MGF -PEG: after workout 150mcg
Ancillaries:
Adex: 0.5mg eod
Caber: 0.25mg twice/week
Huperzine: 2x 200mcg/day

Goal is to get my weight up from 215lbs to 240lbs, then cut.

Dam bro, Bring it!
I do expect noodz.
 
Dam bro, Bring it!
I do expect noodz.

Noodz in 12 weeks :)

Decided to go the NPP route, will be awesome for my joints and old injury. Can't imagine how you would look taking gear, probably as huge as the cow in the picture, LOL!
 
Started my bulking protocol today, first time I pinned my Quads, as pinning all that stuff in my delts would be crazy.
Pinning quads hurts! Damn, did it anyway but man I wish I had 4 shoulders for pinning.
 
I just think you wish the top of YOUR head looked like that!
 
Does anyone know the movie "Universal Soldier" ?

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:)
 
My blood was way too thick, what the nurse told me.
Will implement a daily nattokinase regime to my diet and give blood more often.

All you guys on gear should check out nattokinase for blood thinning, way more effective than aspirin:

Source: webmed

Nattokinase is an enzyme (a protein that speeds up biochemical reactions) that is extracted from a popular Japanese food called natto. Natto is boiled soybeans that have been fermented with a bacterium called Bacillus natto.

Natto has been used as a folk remedy for diseases of the heart and circulatory system (cardiovascular disease) for hundreds of years. Nattokinase, the chemical in natto that is probably responsible for its effects, was discovered by a University of Chicago researcher, Dr. Hiroyuki Sumi.

You won’t find nattokinase in soy foods other than natto, since nattokinase is produced through the specific fermentation process used to make natto.

Nattokinase is used for cardiovascular diseases including heart disease, high blood pressure, stroke, chest pain (angina), deep vein thrombosis (DVT), “hardening of the arteries” (atherosclerosis), hemorrhoids, varicose veins, poor circulation, and peripheral artery disease (PAD).

It is also used for pain, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, endometriosis, uterine fibroids, muscle spasms, infertility, cancer, and a vitamin-deficiency disease called beriberi.

How does it work?

Nattokinase decreases the ability of blood to clot. This "thins the blood" and might protect against conditions caused by blood clots such as stroke, heart attack, and others.
 
Some really great work bro. Your before and after pics are inspirational. You have achieved more than most men your age. Keep the gains coming.
 
My blood was way too thick, what the nurse told me.
Will implement a daily nattokinase regime to my diet and give blood more often.

All you guys on gear should check out nattokinase for blood thinning, way more effective than aspirin:

Source: webmed

What do u think thickened your blood?
 
Ah ok well hope that **** you're taking helps.
LOL, it better does! Will watch it closely.
Having temporarily a high RBC count does not worry me as much as the fact, that I'm sitting the whole day at a desk.

High RBC alone does not kill these dudes either:

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...but combined with a sedentary lifestyle, it's more of a problem, I guess.
 
^^^^your dad?
 
My slave Carlos, bringing the groceries over the mountain to my home.
Next week I'll need a new 60 inch flat screen TV from town, Carlos is looking forward to the task.
LOL
Wait I thought I was your slave???

Nvm I realize you were talking about work slave
 
My sponsored log ended.
Now I gonna post my boring workouts here again.
:)

To make it short:
Today was "sh1tty-workout-day-for-puzzies".
All weights felt 30% heavier, even though I was well rested after 3 days off.

I suddenly have the urge to watch a drama with Richard Gere, that never happened before.
Are that the symptoms of puzzyfication? Is my NPP spiked with estrogen?
 
My sponsored log ended.
Now I gonna post my boring workouts here again.
:)

To make it short:
Today was "sh1tty-workout-day-for-puzzies".
All weights felt 30% heavier, even though I was well rested after 3 days off.

I suddenly have the urge to watch a drama with Richard Gere, that never happened before.
Are that the symptoms of puzzyfication? Is my NPP spiked with estrogen?
That's the first thing that came to my mind.
 
You should ask your wife to monitor your sleeping. If you have sleep apnea, your RBC will be elevated. That CAN kill you.
 
You should ask your wife to monitor your sleeping. If you have sleep apnea, your RBC will be elevated. That CAN kill you.
Dam it! You know too much sh it. Now I think I'm going to die. Plus with my wife she would do it and not tell me the truth. If I saw her going threw the insurance policies I would get my answer.
 
Dam it! You know too much sh it. Now I think I'm going to die. Plus with my wife she would do it and not tell me the truth. If I saw her going threw the insurance policies I would get my answer.

Lol...Well, one of the reasons for a high RBC is hypoxia...Lack of oxygen for some period. In order to hold more oxygen in the blood you adapt and increase RBC in preparation for the next event.
 
Of course...HGP is probably correct. Most anabolics that are androgenic increase RBC also. He is probably fine, but as the biggest supporter of my insanity on here...If he dies it will be me vs. the fitness world so I selfishly want him to be living.
 
You should ask your wife to monitor your sleeping. If you have sleep apnea, your RBC will be elevated. That CAN kill you.
No sleep apnea here, not even snoring.
It could be the strangulation, my wife performs on me, during sex.

It's the roids in combination with slight dehydration, 100% sure.
 
Ok, just wondering. Apnea is common among "powerlifters"
 
I may look like a "powerlifter" because I'm fat -but I'm a "moderate-weight-high-volume-puzzy-man".
:)

Well, I was just trying to be respectful to my elders.
 
OOOOH, sh1t.

I'm a huge fan of "The Delray Misfits". But the last vid made me sad. Really.
I mean WTF, Lenny??? . I knew he had issues -but that is making me depressive, damnit....

[video=youtube;9FkMmNb4ZjU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FkMmNb4ZjU[/video]
 
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