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Q & A FOR OR1GIN

mase1 said:
Curious how water retention is for those that have been on for a bit?
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based on the scale I would say I have some water retention (no way I gained that much muscle, or fat, that fast). But I still look lean (have as much definition, maybe more, than when I started) with full looking muscles, so the water must all be intercellular (sp?). Just my anecdotal feedback.
 
Sparkss said:
I will share that I noticed that some supps (Phase2 carb blocker, Green Coffee Bean extract) have more of an effect (loose stool) when I am taking Orig1n than when I am not, but Orig1n on its own does not have that affect, something that I tested by only taking Orig1n for 1 day, and skipping the others, just to see. I even found that adding certain ones (F95/Forslean) led to stronger GI impacts (almost watery stool, but not the same "urgency" as diarrhea). Neither of those had anywhere close to that impact (or any GI impact at all) when I took them before taking Orig1n, so it is most likely the improved digestion leading to a higher bio-availability of those compounds giving me the GI sides?

P.S. I am sure that I am going to get flamed by some of the OL reps for taking some (or all) of those supps while also taking Orig1n, but I know they work for me to help lose weight (positive proof from the end of last year), and right now that is one of my goals, part of a recomp. I feel leaner, but still fuller muscles, when taking Orig1n and them together, so anecdotally they work for me, and I also realize part of that is mental. I feel less guilty about the extra eating when I know some of the simple carbs are being digested/treated as complex carbs and avoiding, or at least minimizing, an insulin spike.
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Curious on if the phase 2 is helping of hindering effects of Origin? Anyone know a lil about which case it is. I'm avoiding carb blockers just incase it's an issue.

Here's an update on my experience with Origin.

After one month i have now im up 8lbs and also leaner. Vascularity has improved alot and also mood and energy. Recovery is comparable in my mind as running a cycle and some kits. Some days my hands are more swollen then others but its hard to tell because it might be from my work. I'm really interested in seeing the results when stacked on a run. Keep in mind i do take a few other products that would aid in recovery ie triumph, eu, su, mk as staples but never had recovery like this over the past year and ive been taking all of the said products since Jan. I've managed to hit multiple PR's so far and the strength just keeps getting better. GI issues are more or less gone and also my bloat. Because i have a pelvic tilt i'm trying to correct it usually looks like i have a lil pot belly but it's flatening out since use.

Conclusion after a month= buy it. No word of a lie even though i have a good stock pile of this im going to buy more. This is a game changer for me.
 
WAF said:
Curious on if the phase 2 is helping of hindering effects of Origin? Anyone know a lil about which case it is. I'm avoiding carb blockers just incase it's an issue.

Here's an update on my experience with Origin.

After one month i have now im up 8lbs and also leaner. Vascularity has improved alot and also mood and energy. Recovery is comparable in my mind as running a cycle and some kits. Some days my hands are more swollen then others but its hard to tell because it might be from my work. I'm really interested in seeing the results when stacked on a run. Keep in mind i do take a few other products that would aid in recovery ie triumph, eu, su, mk as staples but never had recovery like this over the past year and ive been taking all of the said products since Jan. I've managed to hit multiple PR's so far and the strength just keeps getting better. GI issues are more or less gone and also my bloat. Because i have a pelvic tilt i'm trying to correct it usually looks like i have a lil pot belly but it's flatening out since use.

Conclusion after a month= buy it. No word of a lie even though i have a good stock pile of this im going to buy more. This is a game changer for me.
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This is what we aim for when we spend so much time and efforts in developing new products.
Your detailed feedback is highly appreciated.
 
I'm sure this has been answered before but I just don't have time to look through 40 pages of posts atm. I have just started my cut a few weeks ago and I have 3 bottles of org1n should I use these on a cut or save it when I start bulk again
 
awarebrah said:
I'm sure this has been answered before but I just don't have time to look through 40 pages of posts atm. I have just started my cut a few weeks ago and I have 3 bottles of org1n should I use these on a cut or save it when I start bulk again
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It's totally up to you my man. It will be effective in either scenario for improving recovery, digestion, muscle fullness, etc. However, the increased hunger might be uncontrollable for some people who are not experienced with adhering to a calorie deficit. But if you know you can maintain your deficit plan for cutting then by all means it will improve physical results and performance.
 
awarebrah said:
I'm sure this has been answered before but I just don't have time to look through 40 pages of posts atm. I have just started my cut a few weeks ago and I have 3 bottles of org1n should I use these on a cut or save it when I start bulk again
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The origin would help keep you full when dieting and mood enhancement would definetly help IMO. Since i've been getting more vascular and fuller I personally can't wait for a cut and run this to bring out some new veins and keep me from getting flat. There's a few sides to look at with cal deficit diet mood and energy will be low, which might deter you from training on certain days Origin should help that. Personally when i go on a cut and run fat burners its a real struggle to eat even at a deficit same thing Origin should help keep the hunger there. Have ran ghrelin inducing peptides the hunger is very similar but the when i first started it I thought how the hell can i stop eating im starving.

The way i see this product it's like a synchronous condenser "electrical equipment used to correct and adjust a power factor" in electrical systems. More or less its a product that improve you efficiency in absorption and output. Kinda like running using less is using more if you know how to use it. So it might have alot of benefits when a system is really taxed and overworked improving longevity. Ah here's another one like running your car on Synthetic oil compared to non-synthetic.
 
Loving all the feedback. :thumbsup:

I am now in my 3rd week and hellllooo muscle fullness! I don't know if it's just because the intracellular water retention is making me look more pumped, or if I'm actually losing fat, but I swear I look leaner in the mirror. Weight is up 2lbs with no change in diet. Sleep continues to improve; I am staying steadily in REM cycles without interruption and feeling refreshed in the mornings. No significant strength bump, yet. As for digestive/GI issues: my "movements" for the last week have been consistently perfect, one-piece, barely-need-to-wipe types. :slaphappy: Lastly, I have a shoulder injury that I'm working through, and the healing process appears to be speeding along more quickly than expected. Thanks, Or1gin!
 
Lynks8 said:
Loving all the feedback. :thumbsup:

I am now in my 3rd week and hellllooo muscle fullness! I don't know if it's just because the intracellular water retention is making me look more pumped, or if I'm actually losing fat, but I swear I look leaner in the mirror. Weight is up 2lbs with no change in diet. Sleep continues to improve; I am staying steadily in REM cycles without interruption and feeling refreshed in the mornings. No significant strength bump, yet. As for digestive/GI issues: my "movements" for the last week have been consistently perfect, one-piece, barely-need-to-wipe types. :slaphappy: Lastly, I have a shoulder injury that I'm working through, and the healing process appears to be speeding along more quickly than expected. Thanks, Or1gin!
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OL reps actually get high on our own supply ;)

How's hunger been bro?
 
Lynks8 said:
Loving all the feedback. :thumbsup:

I am now in my 3rd week and hellllooo muscle fullness! I don't know if it's just because the intracellular water retention is making me look more pumped, or if I'm actually losing fat, but I swear I look leaner in the mirror. Weight is up 2lbs with no change in diet. Sleep continues to improve; I am staying steadily in REM cycles without interruption and feeling refreshed in the mornings. No significant strength bump, yet. As for digestive/GI issues: my "movements" for the last week have been consistently perfect, one-piece, barely-need-to-wipe types. :slaphappy: Lastly, I have a shoulder injury that I'm working through, and the healing process appears to be speeding along more quickly than expected. Thanks, Or1gin!
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We should tweak the formula so it also gives you fresh breath and a sexy sight, then it really does EVERYTHING
 
GNO said:
OL reps actually get high on our own supply ;)

How's hunger been bro?
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Damn straight! I have been a fan far longer than a rep. I would have been all over Or1gin, regardless. :D Hunger has increased to a notable degree, but not dramatically. If I was bulking, I could def take full advantage of it and eat like a K1ng, but it hasn't been so bad for me that I can't control it, which is nice because I'm doing a mini-cut at the moment.

xtyler said:
We should tweak the formula so it also gives you fresh breath and a sexy sight, then it really does EVERYTHING
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I'm down for that.:09: I should also mention my skin has been clearer. Can't attribute that directly to Or1gin...maybe to the improved sleep or digestion...but I usually get a pimple here-or-there every week...and I mean like, every week. 2 weeks straight now with perfect skin and brighter eyes. This stuff is magical, imho.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Will do.

Also, if you google gentian root and blood pressure lots of warnings come up. Danes ?
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To be honest with you, it is actually first time I hear high Blood pressure related to Gentian root..actually Gentian Root is used in some countries for lowering blood pressure and it may not be a good idea to use it with medicines for HBP. (Recommendation from doctors).

Typical sides of Gentian root (if you take VERY high dose) is stomach related sides. Bloated,nauea etc
 
I got curious, because i know I watched the scale go up and my shoulders blow up in the mirror, I wanted to see exactly how much the weight went up. It was not as much as I thought, but still pretty impressive. I weighed myself less than 2 weeks before starting Orig1n. I am @ 6 weeks since I started taking it. I weight in around 190 first thing in the morning. So I am up 13 lbs. My waistline went up maybe an inch or so. I am still in my old pants (32"), they are just not as loose as they used to be. I needed a belt before to hold them up, but don't need one now. I still occasionally see the outline of my abs (more like a 2-pack than a 6-pack), which tells me any fat gain was likely visceral fat, which is the easiest to gain (and also usually the easiest to get rid of). The shoulder thickness and arm size difference is distinct too. And on the jeans I also am feeling tight in the upper thighs, due to growth in my quads and hamstrings. The only thing I added was Orig1n.

On the topic of stacking supps, I wanted to add some more anecdotal info. Orig1n does not stack well with Anabeta Elite. I love my ABE, but the two don't play nice together (at least not for me they didn't). I had been in the midst of an ABE run when I started Orig1n (yea, I was impatient and couldn't wait :)). I ended up just dropping ABE and staying the source with Orig1n. I am very glad that I did.
 
Sparkss said:
I got curious, because i know I watched the scale go up and my shoulders blow up in the mirror, I wanted to see exactly how much the weight went up. It was not as much as I thought, but still pretty impressive. I weighed myself less than 2 weeks before starting Orig1n. I am @ 6 weeks since I started taking it. I weight in around 190 first thing in the morning. So I am up 13 lbs. My waistline went up maybe an inch or so. I am still in my old pants (32"), they are just not as loose as they used to be. I needed a belt before to hold them up, but don't need one now. I still occasionally see the outline of my abs (more like a 2-pack than a 6-pack), which tells me any fat gain was likely visceral fat, which is the easiest to gain (and also usually the easiest to get rid of). The shoulder thickness and arm size difference is distinct too. And on the jeans I also am feeling tight in the upper thighs, due to growth in my quads and hamstrings. The only thing I added was Orig1n.

On the topic of stacking supps, I wanted to add some more anecdotal info. Orig1n does not stack well with Anabeta Elite. I love my ABE, but the two don't play nice together (at least not for me they didn't). I had been in the midst of an ABE run when I started Orig1n (yea, I was impatient and couldn't wait :)). I ended up just dropping ABE and staying the source with Orig1n. I am very glad that I did.
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Wait, why not stack Anabeta Elite and Origin? I was planning on doing this plus Triumph. What did you notice?
 
rascal14 said:
Wait, why not stack Anabeta Elite and Origin? I was planning on doing this plus Triumph. What did you notice?
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I had some pretty bad GI issues from the combination. the issues went away after I dropped the ABE. I tried it for over a week before I gave up on the combination. I also notice a less drastic reaction to Forslean (more recently), so it may have been the Forskolin in the ABE that was "getting me", I am not sure. As with everything else your mileage may vary.

Neither one on their own gave me any problems what so ever. That is why I equated my issues to the combination. I hope that helps.
 
Sparkss said:
I had some pretty bad GI issues from the combination. the issues went away after I dropped the ABE. I tried it for over a week before I gave up on the combination. I also notice a less drastic reaction to Forslean (more recently), so it may have been the Forskolin in the ABE that was "getting me", I am not sure. As with everything else your mileage may vary.

Neither one on their own gave me any problems what so ever. That is why I equated my issues to the combination. I hope that helps.
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I appreciate it, I'll likely still give it a try myself. Although I did notice some upset stomach from Triumph the last time I tried it so hopefully the combination doesn't destroy me lol
xtyler Danes NoAddedHmones is there any reason you guys know of that he would be experiencing stomach issues stacking with Anabeta, or just a random thing that is likely very individual?
 
rascal14 said:
I appreciate it, I'll likely still give it a try myself. Although I did notice some upset stomach from Triumph the last time I tried it so hopefully the combination doesn't destroy me lol
xtyler Danes NoAddedHmones is there any reason you guys know of that he would be experiencing stomach issues stacking with Anabeta, or just a random thing that is likely very individual?
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It is very individual actually. Things that may give me upset stomach may not give you. I could not use ABE because forskolin kills my stomach!
 
Danes said:
It is very individual actually. Things that may give me upset stomach may not give you. I could not use ABE because forskolin kills my stomach!
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I had no issue with Anabeta before when I ran it.. I wasn't sure if the two interacted in some way that could cause it!
 
I (did not think) I was sensitive to Forskolin, since I have tried multiple products with it in them, and also Forslean on its own. Maybe I was just on the cusp of overloading and the improved digestion made the Forskolin more effective and that put me past the tipping point?
 
Sparkss said:
I (did not think) I was sensitive to Forskolin, since I have tried multiple products with it in them, and also Forslean on its own. Maybe I was just on the cusp of overloading and the improved digestion made the Forskolin more effective and that put me past the tipping point?
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It could be many factors and one of those may be forskolin and Gentian combination. Or maybe not. it is VERY individual. :)
 
Just started my or1gin yesterday guys,should I keep running Follidrone 2.0 with it or stop and run or1gin solo,would they negate each other running them together? Any info would be helpful guys
 
jt75 said:
Just started my or1gin yesterday guys,should I keep running Follidrone 2.0 with it or stop and run or1gin solo,would they negate each other running them together? Any info would be helpful guys
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They shouldn't affect each other, but IMO it's how your body reacts.
 
jt75 said:
Just started my or1gin yesterday guys,should I keep running Follidrone 2.0 with it or stop and run or1gin solo,would they negate each other running them together? Any info would be helpful guys
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I don't see any direct conflicts, however I have no anecdotal feedback cause i am quite against consuming and supplemental niacin and i can imagine the dosage in that product is high.
 
Since people come to see how it works I wanna say for the record I'm just over 5 weeks in & ive definitely gained size (other than muscle fullness that you can't see past), but I'm leaner than 5 weeks ago. This must have vision effects because These ain't natty changes lol
 
Tylerclee said:
Since people come to see how it works I wanna say for the record I'm just over 5 weeks in & ive definitely gained size (other than muscle fullness that you can't see past), but I'm leaner than 5 weeks ago. This must have vision effects because These ain't natty changes lol
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These are natty changes now that we (almost) fully unchained our projects...
 
Quick question, any benefit to double dosing by taking 2 or1gin at the same time before my massive Thansgiving gorge later today? I'm thinking in terms of digestion more than anything
 
gmc4180 said:
Quick question, any benefit to double dosing by taking 2 or1gin at the same time before my massive Thansgiving gorge later today? I'm thinking in terms of digestion more than anything
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I was recently advising by a rep not to double up, when I missed a dose. So no take 1 cap
 
I took 2 caps at the sametime ones. Either that or only 2 caps that day. I like to live dangerously!

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If I'm not mistaken thanksgiving will really boost gh with Orig1n lol. Turkey=tryptophan>carbs=insulin>serotonin is released=higher growth hormone. & taking Orig1n as well? Time to grow. Happy thanksgiving!
 
Regarding taking 2 caps at a time, my wife wasn't really listening the first time I explained how to use this and took 3 caps before breakfast. lol
No effect positive or negative, but she only did it once.
 
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