Donald Trump running for president
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ax1
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Well of course, they can thank Obama for that and Obama can thank them in return for all their support over the years.
These are some of the people that wrote the bill, duh.
justhere4comm
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I find it strange, on a Bodybuilding Group, anyone would support Trump, given his lack of any character or ethics.
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jswain34
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He has said this kind of stuff about every president brought up in this thread dude. Lol
ax1
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Im picking on Obama because after all he is in the forefront of the Obamacare movement. The TV used car salesman.
In truth its not Obama the puppet, its the puppet master.
And yes, they all for the most part support the same policies with incremental differences.
Remember 2 years ago after the shellacking the entire campaign was based on repealing Obamacare? And look what happened after the election was over.
Dont you know the spiritual leader of that movement John Boehner did really well with his stocks when it comes to Obamacare?
Of course they are one and the same, GOP LOVE Obamacare. Its almost like Romneycare.
Its all about the illusion of competition and choice. Obamacare is great business for all.
Gutterpump
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Haha true you have a point lol
Lots of hate for Obama from others in here too though.
ax1
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There is no reason for anybody on this planet not to hate this disgraceful murdering war mongering genocidal promoting human stench.
He belongs in prison for life for countless human rights violations.
ax1
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But...sometimes I get your psychology...its hating Obama but loving Bush that bothers you, right? Hypocrisy?
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justhere4comm
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Any Libertarians in here?
"Weld, the former Republican governor of Massachusetts, conceded that the Libertarian party had failed to break the monopoly of the two-party system this year. He said in part:
Against that backdrop, I would like to address myself to all those in the electorate who remain torn between two so-called major party candidates whom they cannot enthusiastically support. I’m speaking particularly to those Republicans who feel that our President should exhibit commonly accepted standards of decency and discipline.
I would not have stepped out of the swirl of the campaign to make this statement if I did not fear for our country, as I do.
A President of the United States operates every day under a great deal of pressure — from all sides, and in furtherance of many different agendas. With that pressure comes constant criticism.
After careful observation and reflection, I have come to believe that Donald Trump, if elected President of the United States, would not be able to stand up to this pressure and this criticism without becoming unhinged and unable to perform competently the duties of his office."
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If you are voting for Trump because you hate Hillary, then vote third party or write in. It's your right to do so, but picking Trump because you hate the other candidate is preposterously ridiculous. Trump is a thug; a bully; a womanizing sexist; *silver spooned moron.
*His daddy gave him 40 million for his first project and all the political connections he needed to make it.
As told by his own Biographer.
"Weld, the former Republican governor of Massachusetts, conceded that the Libertarian party had failed to break the monopoly of the two-party system this year. He said in part:
Against that backdrop, I would like to address myself to all those in the electorate who remain torn between two so-called major party candidates whom they cannot enthusiastically support. I’m speaking particularly to those Republicans who feel that our President should exhibit commonly accepted standards of decency and discipline.
I would not have stepped out of the swirl of the campaign to make this statement if I did not fear for our country, as I do.
A President of the United States operates every day under a great deal of pressure — from all sides, and in furtherance of many different agendas. With that pressure comes constant criticism.
After careful observation and reflection, I have come to believe that Donald Trump, if elected President of the United States, would not be able to stand up to this pressure and this criticism without becoming unhinged and unable to perform competently the duties of his office."
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If you are voting for Trump because you hate Hillary, then vote third party or write in. It's your right to do so, but picking Trump because you hate the other candidate is preposterously ridiculous. Trump is a thug; a bully; a womanizing sexist; *silver spooned moron.
*His daddy gave him 40 million for his first project and all the political connections he needed to make it.
As told by his own Biographer.
muscleupcrohn
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I think he has a likable personality, and he's charismatic and even has a sense of humor at times, but there's plenty to dislike about his policies, and, frankly, I'm more concerned with policy than personality from the President (and no, that's not excusing Trump's BS, as he's more than just obnoxious and/or unlikable).
SheddingSkin
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This question is for ax1
Time after time, you refer to Killery and Nobama as war mongering genocidal maniacs. I'm assuming this is because of the past 8 years of countless drone strikes and their death showers killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people all in hopes of killing some "terrorist", and ultimately profiting from some type of hidden agenda.
I understand that you are anti-war, unless a direct attack lands on our soil. What I don't get is, Trump continuously says that he is going to "get rid" of ISIS. How do you think he's going to do that? With more drone strikes, and frankly probably even more than what the current administration has already unleashed.
The second Trump authorizes a drone attack on a village of people where a suspected terrorist is, and kills innocent women and children all in the hopes of killing the known ISIS member. Wouldn't he then become a war mongering homicidal maniac?
If so, then how would he be the better choice over Hillary? I know you like neither of them, and claim that you're not voting for either of them. I'm probably doing the same, but I would think Hillary is the more seasoned and experienced politician, compared to Trump.
If they are both going to be war mongering genocidal maniacs (assume Trump sticks to Drone attacks) then who would you rather have.
A future war mongering genocidal maniac hot headed man, who has a problem of speaking before he thinks, saying whatever he wants, and verbally attacking others?
Or, a current war mongering genocidal maniac who has more political experience?
Time after time, you refer to Killery and Nobama as war mongering genocidal maniacs. I'm assuming this is because of the past 8 years of countless drone strikes and their death showers killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people all in hopes of killing some "terrorist", and ultimately profiting from some type of hidden agenda.
I understand that you are anti-war, unless a direct attack lands on our soil. What I don't get is, Trump continuously says that he is going to "get rid" of ISIS. How do you think he's going to do that? With more drone strikes, and frankly probably even more than what the current administration has already unleashed.
The second Trump authorizes a drone attack on a village of people where a suspected terrorist is, and kills innocent women and children all in the hopes of killing the known ISIS member. Wouldn't he then become a war mongering homicidal maniac?
If so, then how would he be the better choice over Hillary? I know you like neither of them, and claim that you're not voting for either of them. I'm probably doing the same, but I would think Hillary is the more seasoned and experienced politician, compared to Trump.
If they are both going to be war mongering genocidal maniacs (assume Trump sticks to Drone attacks) then who would you rather have.
A future war mongering genocidal maniac hot headed man, who has a problem of speaking before he thinks, saying whatever he wants, and verbally attacking others?
Or, a current war mongering genocidal maniac who has more political experience?
Gutterpump
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But I still don't see how someone could actually hate Obama, unless you were the type of conservative that supported Trump from the start. They hate for the sake of hating. I know ax1 hates everyone though lol
Gutterpump
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For example, I don't hate Bush and he had a pretty ****ty record and I wasn't into his policies or war. But I hate Cheney for being pure evil incarnate. He was the devil on Bush's shoulder.
muscleupcrohn
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Eh, if you dislike someone's policies (actions) enough, sometimes it doesn't seem to matter what they're like as a person.
youngandfree
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If you understood Obama's actual history and ideology, you'd say the same thing about him.
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Some more non existent voter fraud.
Some more non existent voter fraud.
youngandfree
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Look at the small turnout for Hilary in Tampa. Tim Kaine had a smaller turnout in FL this week.
Look at the small turnout for Hilary in Tampa. Tim Kaine had a smaller turnout in FL this week.
justhere4comm
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Why are both Trump and Pence still campaigning in Red states?... Utah? Texas? Alabama?
That's not the action of a winning team.
Florida is a Red state. Of course there will be fewer people for Hillary. This is only logical.
That's not the action of a winning team.
Florida is a Red state. Of course there will be fewer people for Hillary. This is only logical.
ax1
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Id probably just get along fine with him at the dinner-table or most situations and have a good time.
I would just avoid private situations with Cheney. I know he comes on here and exclusively reads my stuff alot, and a few rounds of golf my end with a bullet wound to my face.
ax1
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Thats all that really matters, policy/true-agenda's. The rest are just qualities that are plus's.
youngandfree
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Florida isn't as red as you think. Obama won there.
justhere4comm
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What was Obamas turnout in a Florida for his campaigning? Not that it matters to my point.
Got sucked in to this. lol. Oh well. Hope all you chaps can be friends with one another no matter the outcome.
Got sucked in to this. lol. Oh well. Hope all you chaps can be friends with one another no matter the outcome.
ax1
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Im not voting for Dump and I believe the terrorism part of his foreign policy is one of the biggest negatives for me not voting for him. We marched right in and I want someone who is going to have us march right out and let them all figure out over there what happens.
Non-interventionist policies unless our true national security is attacked.
I have stated Dump is scientifically the lesser of evils to this point in the world, thats just plain common sense and logic. One already has supported all these wars and voted us into all these wars to begin with back when they were Senator. I dont care at all for the deception to get us into war excuse...lets say the information was accurate, she still should have voted no to this war under those circumstances.
I do defend some of Dump's policies such as his income tax plans, some of the immigration policies (not the wall part) repealing obamacare, NAFTA, TPP and globalist trade deals, other foreign policy issues, etc....I do not consider my own selfish interests important enough to vote for someone who will continue and possibly escalate all these wars a reason to vote for Dump, I just cant do it. Also another negative is that he is signed up with the establishment which is a negative. Wether he is in it to destroy it from the inside out I have no idea and I dont excactly trust his word on anything, nor can I accuse him unlike the proven facts of Hitlery who has already proven to be a complete and total corrupt disaster during public office. I can sit back and watch what happens and then make judgment.
If he has true anti-globalist anti-establishment and pro-nationalist motives and I see this country going into a better direction than Hitlery thats for sure, Hitlery is only a proven globalist anti-nationalist pro-big bank/corporate anti-constitutional individual.
Dump is a crapshoot, I have no idea to be honest when we are going to get out of him if he wins. I have concerns thats for sure especially lets say he is authentic but then deals with what still is for the large part a payed off congress/senate. Will he expand the power the the executive that has been largely and illegally expanded by Obama?
I can go on and on let me stop there before I right a book on here, lol but feel free to ask more specifics I dont mind but do know I dont want either to be president.
Its to early for me to proof-read all that above, so if anything sounds out of place give me a break! lol
ax1
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He would wipe out 50 children at a wedding with a Obama love drone strike just because there is a suspected terrorist there and then watch him talking about his love for Children and cries about Sandy Hook. I mean he is a totally bloody moron.
justhere4comm
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Trump has stated so many idiotic and low brow comments it is nearly impossible for me to restate them here without penning a book of hate or rewrite Mein Kamf.
He's not in any way the lessor of two evils. If you see it that way. Write in anyone instead.
He's not in any way the lessor of two evils. If you see it that way. Write in anyone instead.
ax1
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His mentor was a communist on the FBI list, we certainly know some of his biggest influences to his ideology thats for sure.
ax1
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He also gets attacked for everything he says by politicians (Obama) and wives (Michelle) who invite rappers to the White House who rap about rape and grope and are probably 2nd to the Saudi government when it comes to respecting woman. Its all politics and hypocrisy at its best. Keep in mind children are more likely to pay attention to what rappers say than this election.
You dont need to write anybody in either, Im just skipping that part and voting for most of my local NY elections.
If I were to write anybody in, Id write you in though
justhere4comm
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He also gets attacked for everything he says by politicians (Obama) and wives (Michelle) who invite rappers to the White House who rap about rape and grope and are probably 2nd to the Saudi government when it comes to respecting woman. Its all politics and hypocrisy at its best. Keep in mind children are more likely to pay attention to what rappers say than this election.
You dont need to write anybody in either, Im just skipping that part and voting for most of my local NY elections.
If I were to write anybody in, Id write you in though
Oh my. Don't do that to us all. I'd make weightlifting a national priority.
B5150
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According to Brent Bozell, the journalistic double standard on Donald Trump vs. the fawning over Hillary Clinton is “stunning.” The Media Research Center president appeared on Fox News and the Fox Business Channel, Wednesday, and marveled at the bias: “In 30 years of tabulating this empirically, we've never seen anything like it.”
Bozell cited a new MRC study finding that 91 percent of Trump’s coverage since the conventions has been hostile. The media watchdog president declared to Neil Cavuto: “It doesn't matter where you fall in this campaign or ideology. You simply cannot have this kind of double standard and call it fair, balanced, objective journalism.”
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Bozell cited a new MRC study finding that 91 percent of Trump’s coverage since the conventions has been hostile. The media watchdog president declared to Neil Cavuto: “It doesn't matter where you fall in this campaign or ideology. You simply cannot have this kind of double standard and call it fair, balanced, objective journalism.”
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Making America great af again.
Making America great af again.
CJNator
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He allows the bombings through his executive order.
Gutterpump
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Oh you mean as every other president has done before him? Whatever. he's not out hunting children with a knife and cutting their throats. I don't believe in these wars but I don't hold the president responsible for collateral damage.
Misfit28
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Love that. Saw it on FB.
ax1
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These are the policies he supports, there is no way to not point the finger to the designated puppet. Why doesnt he cry on TV for the children his policies murder?
ax1
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If 100 Hitlers were president before Obama, its not an excuse for any of Obama's policies. What happened to the anti-war hope and change president we can all believe in that he campaigned on and got my vote in 08 that within months he flipped flopped on all his campaign promises?
He is 100% responsible for all his war mongering policies. Remember "kinetic actions" for Lybia? Look at Lybia now, he destroyed it and its a safe haven for ISIS now. Oh but lets blame Nixon or someone, lol.
Gutterpump
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You realize comparing Obama and Hillary to Hitler is absurd right?
ax1
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In some ways they are alike, but that wasnt my point in my previous post. My point is if you had 8 years for hope and change and instead of promoting and supporting that you promote and support the opposite you can not blame Bush or any previous president before that anymore since they are the very continuation and expansion of all whats wrong and what had been campaigned against in the beginning.
CJNator
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It's merely a fact not an attack and you're right too, other presidents have done things through executive order.
muscleupcrohn
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True, but even comparing Trump to Hitler is a big stretch.
Yes, because the two things that sum up Hitler best are low brow and idiotic. Yes, Trump says stupid and racist things, but Hitler was on a whole different level.
Gutterpump
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I think it's insulting to holocaust survivors, families of survivors and people involved in the world wars, when Hitler's name is thrown around so loosely. I'm guilty of it once or twice in the past but I've changed my stance.
Gutterpump
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I just find it ironic when conservatives hate him for this but their own leaders have done far worse in terms of war crimes in the past, but they would never say they hate their own. The Great Conservative Hypocrisy.