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Donald Trump running for president

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Here's a little break from the negativity, some positivity from us Canadians
 
Interestingly, the NC GOP office that was burned had completed absentee ballots inside, which may have been burned. That's technically voter fraud and a Class I felony according to NC election law.

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Some insider info that Hilteries condition is so bad that its possible she may step down and Michelle would take her place.

This to me would make logical sense politically. I dont really think this would happen or necessarily true, but I consider this to be as much of a disaster as Hitlery so what difference does it make?
 
Interestingly, the NC GOP office that was burned had completed absentee ballots inside, which may have been burned. That's technically voter fraud and a Class I felony according to NC election law.

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They never count them all anyways, especially from our troops.
 
Rigged economy, not the election. Context matters :)

Trump is just a big baby who can't stand losing.

The DNC, Hitlery and Obama have been wearing their tin foil caps hiding in basements talking for weeks about how Russia is going to rig the election in favor of Dump just shortly after Dump starting the rigged election business and being attacked by the very same people who then say they are worried its going to get rigged themselves.

Anyways I dont care who says what, the election is rigged in multiple ways. Just look how Bernie won the election and who now is on top. Of course its rigged, especially the CIA/Corporate/Globalist/Special-Interest controlled media as it always has been manipulating the minds of the voters steering the ship.
 
Hillary history is that of a saint!

There is no integrity to either. When choosing the lesser of two evils you have still chosen evil. There's nothing to boast about.
Never said she is a saint. Just pointing out that Trump is shady as hell and some people can't seem to see that.

I agree that Hillary is no saint, but IMO she's a better choice than Trump.

I've been thinking for a long time about this election. None of the third party candidates are better IMO either. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are both idiots in their own way.
 
Hillary history is that of a saint!

There is no integrity to either. When choosing the lesser of two evils you have still chosen evil. There's nothing to boast about.

The big difference is one historically has evil integrity when it comes to public policy.
 
I agree that Hillary is no saint, but IMO she's a better choice than Trump.

I've been thinking for a long time about this election. None of the third party candidates are better IMO either. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are both idiots in their own way.

You support a bloody murdering genocidalist over a con man, congrats :)

Honestly there is no logical sense to think Hitlery is the lesser of the evil, none whatsoever.

My logical sense is not to vote for either.
 
You support a bloody murdering genocidalist over a con man, congrats :)

Honestly there is no logical sense to think Hitlery is the lesser of the evil, none whatsoever.

My logical sense is not to vote for either.

Thanks!

Honestly, I could really care less what anyone thinks about who I vote for, it's my decision and I have to live with the consequences.
 
Thanks!

Honestly, I could really care less what anyone thinks about who I vote for, it's my decision and I have to live with the consequences.

Its all up to you who wins the election anyways, the power of our future is all on your hands, the power of my own life comes with the flip of your switch.

I kid I kid....hey I can live with your vote its not you I hate, its her and she isnt qualified to be president, she is only qualified to spend the rest of her life in prison. We just here debating and venting :)

Just remember, when you flip that switch how many more children that bloody war mongering psychopath will murder. Dump may have a history of tickling puzzies, but she has blown millions off that didnt live to tell about it.
 
Thanks!

Honestly, I could really care less what anyone thinks about who I vote for, it's my decision and I have to live with the consequences.

My wife likes Hitlery btw....I still love her, just want to make sure you know that :)

And yeah, I pretty much tell her everything I type on here as a keyboard goblin right to her in a slightly more lovely tone lol
 
Never said she is a saint. Just pointing out that Trump is shady as hell and some people can't seem to see that.

I agree that Hillary is no saint, but IMO she's a better choice than Trump.

I've been thinking for a long time about this election. None of the third party candidates are better IMO either. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are both idiots in their own way.
Johnson may be an "idiot" but he isn't a criminal or shady douche, and he does seem to support more individual freedoms than Trump or Hillary. Granted, he doesn't stand a chance this election, but this is how I rank libertarians and candidates this election:

Ron Paul > Rand Paul > Johnson >>>>> Trump~Clinton
 
Johnson may be an "idiot" but he isn't a criminal or shady douche, and he does seem to support more individual freedoms than Trump or Hillary. Granted, he doesn't stand a chance this election, but this is how I rank libertarians and candidates this election:

Ron Paul > Rand Paul > Johnson >>>>> Trump~Clinton

I cant believe Hitlery even made the list and even get a ranking, how dare you?!?
 
Johnson may be an "idiot" but he isn't a criminal or shady douche, and he does seem to support more individual freedoms than Trump or Hillary. Granted, he doesn't stand a chance this election, but this is how I rank libertarians and candidates this election:

Ron Paul > Rand Paul > Johnson >>>>> Trump~Clinton

I've been watching more and more stuff about him, and he just strikes me as a simpleton. He also very easily folds when pressured about his stances. I just can't get behind getting rid of things like the Department of Education, HUD, etc. either. Libertarianism is very short-sighted IMO, no offense. It makes these grand claims of deregulating everything without seeming to have any thought about how to get there or the consequences.

There's a HUGE difference between having personal freedom and helping those less fortunate. I know, charities can take up the slack, blah, blah (I've heard it all, I have several Libertarian friends). Some of the countries with the largest degree of personal freedom have high degrees of government involvement, i.e. most Scandinavian countries. And no, I don't like the "Human Freedom" index written by the Cato Institute ;)
 
Johnson may be an "idiot" but he isn't a criminal or shady douche, and he does seem to support more individual freedoms than Trump or Hillary. Granted, he doesn't stand a chance this election, but this is how I rank libertarians and candidates this election:

Ron Paul > Rand Paul > Johnson >>>>> Trump~Clinton

Agreed. I'd like the Green Party as well if their stance on science was different.
 
I'm literally laughing out loud how this thread is basically the same people repeating the same opinions everyday. I'm enjoying the circus though lol
 
I've been watching more and more stuff about him, and he just strikes me as a simpleton. He also very easily folds when pressured about his stances. I just can't get behind getting rid of things like the Department of Education, HUD, etc. either. Libertarianism is very short-sighted IMO, no offense. It makes these grand claims of deregulating everything without seeming to have any thought about how to get there or the consequences.

There's a HUGE difference between having personal freedom and helping those less fortunate. I know, charities can take up the slack, blah, blah (I've heard it all, I have several Libertarian friends). Some of the countries with the largest degree of personal freedom have high degrees of government involvement, i.e. most Scandinavian countries. And no, I don't like the "Human Freedom" index written by the Cato Institute ;)

There is ALOT of thought about these issues and its consequences, and the best way to help the less fortunate is to have less of the less fortunate to begin with. Socialist countries including the USA havent proven to solve these issues anyways. I would more look into Ron Paul and The School of Austrian economics than people like Gary Johnson and other groups, there is alot to it and all is well thought out.

These Scandinavian countries have some of the highest income taxes on the planet so you cant possibly claim they have the largest degree of personal freedom when the income tax is one of the top if not worst offender of personal freedoms and liberties.
 
There is ALOT of thought about these issues and its consequences, and the best way to help the less fortunate is to have less of the less fortunate to begin with. Socialist countries including the USA havent proven to solve these issues anyways. I would more look into Ron Paul and The School of Austrian economics than people like Gary Johnson and other groups, there is alot to it and all is well thought out.

These Scandinavian countries have some of the highest income taxes on the planet so you cant possibly claim they have the largest degree of personal freedom when the income tax is one of the top if not worst offender of personal freedoms and liberties.
I forget what class it was, but a professor I had was so obsessed with income inequality, and used it a way to show how "bad" the USA was, but didn't mention any other type of income statistics that HAVE to be taken into consideration for income inequality to even be relevant (such as average, median, etc). So if there is high income inequality, but a relatively high average/median income, that's somehow worse than having low income inequality but also low average/median income? If that's the case, then just make sure everyone has no money, and you've eliminated income inequality, because 0=0.
 
I've been watching more and more stuff about him, and he just strikes me as a simpleton. He also very easily folds when pressured about his stances. I just can't get behind getting rid of things like the Department of Education, HUD, etc. either. Libertarianism is very short-sighted IMO, no offense. It makes these grand claims of deregulating everything without seeming to have any thought about how to get there or the consequences.

There's a HUGE difference between having personal freedom and helping those less fortunate. I know, charities can take up the slack, blah, blah (I've heard it all, I have several Libertarian friends). Some of the countries with the largest degree of personal freedom have high degrees of government involvement, i.e. most Scandinavian countries. And no, I don't like the "Human Freedom" index written by the Cato Institute ;)
How about Libertarian-leaning then? Or Libertarian with some safety nets? I think hays something that a lot of people can get behind. I just like the idea of a government that says you can do what you want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights (or their ability to do what they want).
 
How about Libertarian-leaning then? Or Libertarian with some safety nets? I think hays something that a lot of people can get behind. I just like the idea of a government that says you can do what you want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights (or their ability to do what they want).

I'd be willing to compromise myself and try to make safety nets work.
 
How about Libertarian-leaning then? Or Libertarian with some safety nets? I think hays something that a lot of people can get behind. I just like the idea of a government that says you can do what you want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights (or their ability to do what they want).

I'd be willing to compromise myself and try to make safety nets work.

I could get behind that. I just feel like the "all or nothing" Libertarianism leaves much to be desired. Some of them want to abolish EVERY government agency, which to me is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. A lot of agencies do a lot of good, they're not all evil, bureaucratic wastes of money, IMO.
 
I could get behind that. I just feel like the "all or nothing" Libertarianism leaves much to be desired. Some of them want to abolish EVERY government agency, which to me is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. A lot of agencies do a lot of good, they're not all evil, bureaucratic wastes of money, IMO.

To my understanding it's more so "Federal" government agencies. Power to the states,states are like mini countries and set their own agencies and have the ability to both compete with each other and give people the power of choice. Abolishing the Dept of Education doesn't necessarily mean we can't have State level DoE.

Big Federal agencies in general are simply dangerous on th long run as they expand on size, power, bureaucracy and cost. Just keep it at state level and the Federal Government simply sits back and steps in when they go out of line.
 
I'd be willing to compromise myself and try to make safety nets work.
Me too. The thing is, in reality, it's only an ideological compromise, not a practical one, as we already have social nets, and likely will for the foreseeable future, so a trend towards some libertarian beliefs (specifically more personal freedoms) would be great, even if safety nets stay in place.
 
I love how people are so critical on libertarianism without even understanding it. The Libertarian party isn't libertarian at all, nothing that promotes statism is. The epicenter of libertarianism would be Australian economics, many would disagree but that's when logic is thrown out the door.
 
I love how people are so critical on libertarianism without even understanding it. The Libertarian party isn't libertarian at all, nothing that promotes statism is. The epicenter of libertarianism would be Australian economics, many would disagree but that's when logic is thrown out the door.

Austrian or Australian? I've seen both mentioned LOL.

I've read a lot about Libertarianism, trust me. I've also had many act all high and mighty like this as well ;)

The other thing is that there is a large spectrum of Libertarian beliefs, hard to single out one as being "true" Libertarianism.
 
Austrian or Australian? I've seen both mentioned LOL.

I've read a lot about Libertarianism, trust me. I've also had many act all high and mighty like this as well ;)

The other thing is that there is a large spectrum of Libertarian beliefs, hard to single out one as being "true" Libertarianism.

Lol I'm always misspelling I meant Austrian. I say there is only one because a true libertarian society will allow other societies to flourish, Austrian economics is as right as right can go. Allowing individuals and private property to be truly private. Left libertarianism promotes collectivism which historically speaking promotes aggression on individuals or outsiders.

Said society must be stateless which will allow the free market to flourish. Other "libertarian" societies can and would exist to be libertarian but it cannot be truly libertarian if it doesn't promote individualism.
 
Austrian or Australian? I've seen both mentioned LOL.

I've read a lot about Libertarianism, trust me. I've also had many act all high and mighty like this as well ;)

The other thing is that there is a large spectrum of Libertarian beliefs, hard to single out one as being "true" Libertarianism.
Australian economics involves significantly more kangaroos I think.
 
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So I guess it's pretty much a done deal now, we can stop arguing about $h1t lol

Yeah your right, its over. We should just not even have the election, we have a clear projected winner. CNN has a habit of electing the president before the votes even are counted anyway, so what the hell is 20 days earlier anyways?
 
Yeah your right, its over. We should just not even have the election, we have a clear projected winner. CNN has a habit of electing the president before the votes even are counted anyway, so what the hell is 20 days earlier anyways?

I guess you can just turn on "Fox news" to "fact check" this
 
I'm literally laughing out loud how this thread is basically the same people repeating the same opinions everyday. I'm enjoying the circus though lol

What is great, or funny, is also how we have all chosen a side in this election months ago and so much crap has come out on both sides and none of us have swayed. We made our choices long ago, and with all the Wikileaks, dumb foot-in-mouth statements, lies, scandals, etc., we didn't change.

That's actually impressive. Good to know we're all opinionated pains in the arse but hold true to our opinions. What's that called? Integrity? Character? I was beginning to think this world had lost sight of those values.
 
What is great, or funny, is also how we have all chosen a side in this election months ago and so much crap has come out on both sides and none of us have swayed. We made our choices long ago, and with all the Wikileaks, dumb foot-in-mouth statements, lies, scandals, etc., we didn't change.

That's actually impressive. Good to know we're all opinionated pains in the arse but hold true to our opinions. What's that called? Integrity? Character? I was beginning to think this world had lost sight of those values.

I changed a little bit...I had at least once considered voting for Dump, it was a small percentage but thats now gone.

That being said, I dunno what we are going to get out of him, its a crapshoot, some of his policies I agree with and some dont but he is too big government for me and we either are going to get something good, bad or both out of him. I really have no clue. I wish his tax plan would come to fruition, I like it...not love it but like it alot. I dont think anybody knows what Dump is capable of. I can say he is 100% certainly the lesser of two evils, this is a historical and scientific undeniable fact to this day. I am 100% not voting for him though. He has a chance to gain my respect in 4 years but I truly believe this election will be stolen and handed over to Hitlery anyways.
 
I dont think anybody knows what Dump is capable of.

I think we've all seen what Dump's capable of. Inciting violence, fanning the flames of discontent and malice - especially within the far right (or as I like to say, fanning the flames of stoopidity), and a whole lot of fluff and bull****ting. He was decent at flying by the seat of his pants but most intelligent people could see he had no idea what he was doing and wasn't fit for president. But of course, this is just my libtarded opinion
 
I think we've all seen what Dump's capable of. Inciting violence, fanning the flames of discontent and malice - especially within the far right (or as I like to say, fanning the flames of stoopidity), and a whole lot of fluff and bull****ting. He was decent at flying by the seat of his pants but most intelligent people could see he had no idea what he was doing and wasn't fit for president. But of course, this is just my libtarded opinion

Ah yeah lol

And he has that down low tickle issue too!
 
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