SonnyAz
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It was actually to my belief via some notably extensive research, that "npp" and "deca" are the same compound just with different esters. As in test e and test p. They have different esters attached, yet are still test in essence. As far as the history, when nandrolone was first released, I believe they actually had npp as the first version back in the 50's.Never used it. But if you want to get the benefits of Nandrolone, joint lubrication, high anabolic activity, etc... your better off with the deca ester.
NPP is recently a new compound (past 10 or so years)....however, DECA is a loooonnggg time veteran choice for a reason.
Just because NPP and Deca are both nandrolone, does not mean they will do the same thing.
This is why i prefer 5mg tabs. Plus its active life is so short its better to keep a solid base instead of sporadic dosing.Running it 500sus/400npp. I failed to mention the 50mg of dbol I was doing all pre-workout but it's causing a rapid heart beat 2hrs after so I'm splitting the dose.
Correct it has been around since then and yes I have used way more aesthetic than Decca low water retention and muscle hardness. Assuming your diet is on point.It was actually to my belief via some notably extensive research, that "npp" and "deca" are the same compound just with different esters. As in test e and test p. They have different esters attached, yet are still test in essence. As far as the history, when nandrolone was first released, I believe they actually had npp as the first version back in the 50's.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14403896NPP is recently a new compound (past 10 or so years)...
Not to but in but I think that's what he meant and that's definitely what I meant it was used in medicine like he wrote in his post. Also I'll find them I have them , Mike Mentzer wrote about the differences between NPP and Decca.Lol dude if I think Arnold was using NPP, it was nandrolone with deca ester. Now the npp is fairly new stuff when compared to test dbol deca been used for over half century. Don't pick on my words man, I typed it quick.
Your article is correct. But the local gym rat or even top Olympia didn't have access to this stuff. They used the deca version
For the records, they all had access to NPP.Lol dude if I think Arnold was using NPP, it was nandrolone with deca ester. Now the npp is fairly new stuff when compared to test dbol deca been used for over half century. Don't pick on my words man, I typed it quick.
Your article is correct. But the local gym rat or even top Olympia didn't have access to this stuff. They used the deca version
Yup that's it exactly brother thanks that was going to drive me nuts till I found it! I'm old school I assume you are to? Thanks for the info brother!For the records, they all had access to NPP.
It's name was Durabolin (Just Durabolin, not Deca-Durabolin, made by Organon as well). Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mike Mentzer, Sergio Olivia and pretty much all the big names of the Golden Age used it.
In the USA they all used the same handful of HG products: Durabolin, Deca-Durabolin, Ciba Dianabol, Nilevar and some had access to Primobolan and Winstrol from Europe.
/history lesson
Older than I like to admit LOLYup that's it exactly brother thanks that was going to drive me nuts till I found it! I'm old school I assume you are to? Thanks for the info brother!
It MUST hurt: its the nasty local inflammation that gives you the temporary extra volumeNever used it but heard it hurt like HELL to inject!!! Lol!
I find using a bit of sterile grapeseed oil helps this. If shooting a half CC of a painful compound, I'll pull up another half CC of the sterile grapeseed oil. Cuts down on site reactions this way too when BA content is high Or just blending/ shooting it with something else can work tooNever used it but heard it hurt like HELL to inject!!! Lol!
Dude I think the mast with the NPP would be a very nice combo! Just watch your sides and I dont see why 12 weeks wouldn't work.What do people think of running NPP/test / mast for 12 weeks during a recomp? Most people run it 8-10 weeks but I don't see why 12 would be bad, minus the myostatin factor.
Thanks. I've previously used another 19-nor for longer, dienalone ace for 16 weeks (ramped up to 600mg/week after 10 weeks) and I just had to add nolva at that point (on top of prami that was already in use) and things were fine. Haven't used NPP before though. Wish dien ace was still around.Dude I think the mast with the NPP would be a very nice combo! Just watch your sides and I dont see why 12 weeks wouldn't work.
NPP is nice man, I'm at 450mg a week about 5 weeks in and loving it. What type of test are you using with it?Thanks. I've previously used another 19-nor for longer, dienalone ace for 16 weeks (ramped up to 600mg/week after 10 weeks) and I just had to add nolva at that point (on top of prami that was already in use) and things were fine. Haven't used NPP before though. Wish dien ace was still around.
Was thinking of prop, but that's a lot of oil everyday especially with mast prop. So I'm thinking biweekly shots of test cyp and mast e, daily shots of NPP with slin pins.NPP is nice man, I'm at 450mg a week about 5 weeks in and loving it. What type of test are you using with it?
Test prop and NPP are pretty nice together. Yeah going with the test cyp and mast e would save you on supplies and less oil at once. Either way that's gonna be a nice run!Was thinking of prop, but that's a lot of oil everyday especially with mast prop. So I'm thinking biweekly shots of test cyp and mast e, daily shots of NPP with slin pins.
Yup either/or will workSubbed. A buddy recently got me curious about NPP for my next cycle. (Yes I do PCT and breaks, I just like to plan ahead.) Is the general consensus that pinning it with Sust in the same barrel will help a bit with the PIP? If not, I may add more sterile oil as I've seen that recommended more than once.
Though I haven't tried tren, I'm having no anxiety well just normal amount. For sure no insomnia. Just some itchy nips here and there.Anyone who gets bad sides with Tren, how do they compare to the sides of NPP?
Acne, anxiety, insomnia?
There's no comparison on sides. NPP is barely androgenic, but a great anabolic. Tren gets most of its sides from its high androgenic activity (combined with additional androgenic compounds).Anyone who gets bad sides with Tren, how do they compare to the sides of NPP?
Acne, anxiety, insomnia?
that makes sense. I wasn't sure of the comparison because they're both 19-nor. I got horrible anxiety on Tren and when I dropped it the acne was awful.There's no comparison on sides. NPP is barely androgenic, but a great anabolic. Tren gets most of its sides from its high androgenic activity (combined with additional androgenic compounds).
They may be of the same base, but they're worlds apart. NPP is a great steroid for those that want another anabolic that is low sides. It's one of my favorite steroids and this is coming someone that hated deca.that makes sense. I wasn't sure of the comparison because they're both 19-nor. I got horrible anxiety on Tren and when I dropped it the acne was awful.
What are the main differences between Decca and NPP? In terms of effect?They may be of the same base, but they're worlds apart. NPP is a great steroid for those that want another anabolic that is low sides. It's one of my favorite steroids and this is coming someone that hated deca.
Good to hear, thanks.They may be of the same base, but they're worlds apart. NPP is a great steroid for those that want another anabolic that is low sides. It's one of my favorite steroids and this is coming someone that hated deca.
Yeah I don't get it must be user's who are prone to those type of sides. Sorry but some of it must be mental.I'm one of the lucky ones who gets no sides but insomnia on tren. But I really want to try NPP with mast and test this winter.
Truly "UNBREAKABLE"!! LOL200mg test e, 400mg mast e, 450mg NPP 12 weeks zero sides
On paper, there shouldn't be much as the only difference is the ester. However, it was night and day for me. Deca mainly just gave me happy joints, bloat, and horrible back acne (**** left scars for about 2 years). NPP gave me great fullness, bumped my appetite, and was much better in terms of LBM. I don't recall any sides with it either (it's been a few years).What are the main differences between Decca and NPP? In terms of effect?
50mg ED was my dosing.Awesome thanks bro might have to try it Decca was trash for me to in the past. NPP you need to pin ED OR EOD? What's a good dose taken with a low dose of prop?
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