Q & A FOR OR1GIN

No bloat here, and I'm on day 6. Just endless hunger.
 
I'll be starting up my run in November, planning to stay on for months. Really love the idea of anything that can assist digestion and nutrient uptake being that I do IF and put down some pretty macro dense meals
 
BamBam0319 said:
I never said extremely harsh, did I? It can have negative effects on the liver without being in the extreme sense. Also, everyone is different. Some people are more drastically affected than others.
Kinda like how some people need an AI while on 500mg/week of testosterone or they'll get gyno, and then there are people who don't need an AI at all at the same dosage.
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No, you said detrimental which is worse!
 
I'm about a week in on a caloric deficit and I'm noticing increased recovery time. I'm dropping weight and my strength is increasing, I'm at the best lbs for lbs I've ever been at. I'm also using ignit3 so I don't know how much that is contributing to what I'm feeling
 
Killcure666 said:
I'm about a week in on a caloric deficit and I'm noticing increased recovery time. I'm dropping weight and my strength is increasing, I'm at the best lbs for lbs I've ever been at. I'm also using ignit3 so I don't know how much that is contributing to what I'm feeling
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You mean decreased recovery time?
 
Killcure666 said:
I'm about a week in on a caloric deficit and I'm noticing increased recovery time. I'm dropping weight and my strength is increasing, I'm at the best lbs for lbs I've ever been at. I'm also using ignit3 so I don't know how much that is contributing to what I'm feeling
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I am definitely getting enhanced recovery, I squatted 3 times this week with minimal soreness. And eclipsed my previous PR by 10lbs on the last sesh :dance: That is that ribosome biogenesis at work!
 
ELROCK said:
No, you said detrimental which is worse!
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Lol in what sense would "detrimental" be automatically thought as worse than "extremely harsh?" Detrimental just means to have a negative effect upon something.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Lol in what sense would "detrimental" be automatically thought as worse than "extremely harsh?" Detrimental just means to have a negative effect upon something.
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I think the connotation of detrimental falls more in line with "extremely harsh" verses just "negative effect" but that's just me
 
rtmilburn said:
I think the connotation of detrimental falls more in line with "extremely harsh" verses just "negative effect" but that's just me
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Apparently you and elrock both! However if you look up the definition it's literally just "tending to cause harm." And another one says it's a formal way to say "harmful." I guess it just sounds more extreme to some than others.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Apparently you and elrock both! However if you look up the definition it's literally just "tending to cause harm." And another one says it's a formal way to say "harmful." I guess it just sounds more extreme to some than others.
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You guy's can PM this argument over irrelevant semantics..lol
 
my buddy have been on it for 6 days he look fuller and he say his muscle feel tighter , no hunger spike as he have been bulking and,eating lot.
 
Lynks8 said:
All this talk about GH/IGF-1 and no-one talking about Ribosome Biogenesis.
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Exactly. Possibly its most intriguing feature, getting heavily overlooked.

Killcure666 said:
I'm about a week in on a caloric deficit and I'm noticing increased recovery time. I'm dropping weight and my strength is increasing, I'm at the best lbs for lbs I've ever been at. I'm also using ignit3 so I don't know how much that is contributing to what I'm feeling
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Excellent, keep us posted.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Apparently you and elrock both! However if you look up the definition it's literally just "tending to cause harm." And another one says it's a formal way to say "harmful." I guess it just sounds more extreme to some than others.
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I said connotation not definition
 
I'll be trying this in the Spring or Summer for sure, but can someone give me a rundown of the benefits? I haven't been on AM much so I haven't seen what's been posted thus far. Increased hunger, better sleep quality, anything else?

Also just gonna throw out whatever random questions I may have. Would this aggravate the prostate? Isn't increasing IGF-1 (don't know if this does this) increase your risk of cancer? Any potential bad interactions with other drugs/supps?

I plan on doing 8 weeks of Or1gin solo, 8 weeks of Test1fy solo, and then a few months later 8 weeks of the two stacked. Can't try K1ngsblood due to the Zinc unfortunately.
 
carmaf said:
I'll be trying this in the Spring or Summer for sure, but can someone give me a rundown of the benefits? I haven't been on AM much so I haven't seen what's been posted thus far. Increased hunger, better sleep quality, anything else?

Also just gonna throw out whatever random questions I may have. Would this aggravate the prostate? Isn't increasing IGF-1 (don't know if this does this) increase your risk of cancer? Any potential bad interactions with other drugs/supps?

I plan on doing 8 weeks of Or1gin solo, 8 weeks of Test1fy solo, and then a few months later 8 weeks of the two stacked. Can't try K1ngsblood due to the Zinc unfortunately.
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Post 1 in this thread is the write-up
 
Growth factors do NOT CAUSE cancer. Period.
It's an aberrant increase in the expression and activation of the IGF-1R in cancer cells to promote their proliferation.
Anything remotely anabolic in nature can trigger this phenomenon, including the mTOR signalling pathway.

Not a concern in healthy individuals.
 
xtyler said:
Growth factors do NOT CAUSE cancer. Period.
It's an aberrant increase in the expression and activation of the IGF-1R in cancer cells to promote their proliferation.
Anything remotely anabolic in nature can trigger this phenomenon, including the mTOR signalling pathway.

Not a concern in healthy individuals.
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This !
Thats why mTOR inhibitors are used in cancer therapy
 
wow this thread took a turn for the worse sounds like a SJW debate who ****ing cares detrimental or not get back to talking about Or1g1n.
 
not sure if this was asked, xtyler what are your thoughts on adding a GDA for 3 to 6 month same length as or1gin run, trying to stay as lean as possible or not a good idea?
 
WAF said:
wow this thread took a turn for the worse sounds like a SJW debate who ****ing cares detrimental or not get back to talking about Or1g1n.
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It's already gotten back to orig1n lol
 
raul87 said:
Is this supposed to give you like a slight euphoria? Like I feel a slight head change then some sort of tingling sensation but not like beta alanine it's more subtle and "softer" if that makes sense
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Just wanted to add another n=1 anecdote to a slight "tingling" feeling in the upper-back part of my head about 15-20 minutes after taking 1 cap Orig1n. I usually take it within 10 minutes of eating (convenience), but I do sometimes notice the tingling feeling when I wait a bit longer before eating.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Just wanted to add another n=1 anecdote to a slight "tingling" feeling in the upper-back part of my head about 15-20 minutes after taking 1 cap Orig1n. I usually take it within 10 minutes of eating (convenience), but I do sometimes notice the tingling feeling when I wait a bit longer before eating.
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that tingling feeling is actually lil bells in your body yelling out GAINZ!!!
 
hamdysayed said:
not sure if this was asked, xtyler what are your thoughts on adding a GDA for 3 to 6 month same length as or1gin run, trying to stay as lean as possible or not a good idea?
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I was wondering the same thing as i have some GutHealth kicking around and have been using it for awhile now. I'm not sure if it will be a waste if continued to use wih origin or not.
 
i've taken it after food once because i forgot I missed a dose and actually didnt notice much of a difference between pre food. Still got the same fullness and ease of digestion, one thing i'll say about or1gin is i fart like a madman lol
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
i've taken it after food once because i forgot I missed a dose and actually didnt notice much of a difference between pre food. Still got the same fullness and ease of digestion, one thing i'll say about or1gin is i fart like a madman lol
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You cannot fart!!

You'll lose the pump men!!

 
WAF said:
I was wondering the same thing as i have some GutHealth kicking around and have been using it for awhile now. I'm not sure if it will be a waste if continued to use wih origin or not.
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I asked this earlier in the thread, and the consensus was that it could only be beneficial. So I'm currently on day 6 of both Orig1n and Gut Health!
YoungBodyBuil said:
i've taken it after food once because i forgot I missed a dose and actually didnt notice much of a difference between pre food. Still got the same fullness and ease of digestion, one thing i'll say about or1gin is i fart like a madman lol
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My flatulence isn't more frequent in occurrence, but sweet baby Jesus they are exponentially more rancid.
 
hamdysayed said:
not sure if this was asked, xtyler what are your thoughts on adding a GDA for 3 to 6 month same length as or1gin run, trying to stay as lean as possible or not a good idea?
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Nothing against this idea :)

muscleupcrohn said:
Just wanted to add another n=1 anecdote to a slight "tingling" feeling in the upper-back part of my head about 15-20 minutes after taking 1 cap Orig1n. I usually take it within 10 minutes of eating (convenience), but I do sometimes notice the tingling feeling when I wait a bit longer before eating.
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May or may not mean something.
Many people report this "tingling" with GHRPs

YoungBodyBuil said:
i've taken it after food once because i forgot I missed a dose and actually didnt notice much of a difference between pre food. Still got the same fullness and ease of digestion, one thing i'll say about or1gin is i fart like a madman lol
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It's not that it doesn't work if taken with meals or after meals.
It just works better when taken 10-20' before eating.
 
Guys, Rikkunsh*** is used to get people to eat (Cachexia/Anorexia) - so it stands to reason it would be given to people before eating (cuz they won't on their own :D) - so that is "by the book dosing" for us anal retentive types. I wouldn't want Leptin anywhere near my Ghrelin :D
 
Tylerclee said:
Is there any preference on Orig1n being taken with high carb or high fat meal?
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It is beneficial before your largest meals which may be high fat/carb but not necessary to eat that way. (Ie. also useful in caloric deficit)
 
The appetite increase on this is legit. I am more hungry on Orig1n while in a 500kcal surplus than I was at the end of my cut at a 1000kcal deficit (while on anabeta elite). Also, definitely less abdominal bloat after large meals.
 
jh1 said:
The appetite increase on this is legit. I am more hungry on Orig1n while in a 500kcal surplus than I was at the end of my cut at a 1000kcal deficit (while on anabeta elite). Also, definitely less abdominal bloat after large meals.
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Sounds promising, keep us posted about any and every effect :)
 
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