Q & A FOR OR1GIN

WAF said:
Im still waiting on my origin but am curently using gabba, melatonin, mk. looking forward to the addition of origin. il be running mk along with origin for awhile.

@ the Olympus labs guys you need to make a sllep aid product asap.
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We do? Or we did!
Wonder which ....
 
WAF said:
is this a colonel mustard in the library moment?

did i miss something?
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You haven't missed anything...stay tuned lots of goodies coming Fall/Winter
 
I think if you are after increased GH primarily, than you'd be wasting Origin if also taking MK. I look at that aspect of it as being for people that don't want to swallow an experimental drug for increased GH. If you are after the other benefits - then why not?. This would probably be directed mainly at people on a Cut - who would want to have an increased appetite while trying to stick to 2100kcals?, LOL. I do not think it would be additive with MK. And if you are ravenously hungry during a Cut - that's Ghrelin doing it's thing :D You also aren't going to put on any LBM during a Cut. At maintenance or bulking - go for it, take them both, you have the kcals in your favor.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I think if you are after increased GH primarily, than you'd be wasting Origin if also taking MK. I look at that aspect of it as being for people that don't want to swallow an experimental drug for increased GH. If you are after the other benefits - then why not?. This would probably be directed mainly at people on a Cut - who would want to have an increased appetite while trying to stick to 2100kcals?, LOL. I do not think it would be additive with MK. And if you are ravenously hungry during a Cut - that's Ghrelin doing it's thing :D You also aren't going to put on any LBM during a Cut. At maintenance or bulking - go for it, take them both, you have the kcals in your favor.
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Hey, i am taking Kings Blood with Testosterone Enathate. Is it a good idea?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Are you drinking right now? :D :D
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:D :D :D

I do agree on your post.
There is really no need to stack Or1gin with MK677 if the main goal is enhanced GH/IGF1. Its like taking phosphatidic acid with prohormones for more hypertrophy.
But Or1gin has other effects such as increased digestion(leading to better nutrient uptake, stronger immune system ++++), containing robuvit for Ribosome Biogenesis etc.so they would be a good stack anyway :) especially on bulk :)
 
Danes said:
Hey, i am taking Kings Blood with Testosterone Enathate. Is it a good idea?
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Danes said:
:D :D :D

I do agree on your post.
There is really no need to stack Or1gin with MK677 if the main goal is enhanced GH/IGF1. Its like taking phosphatidic acid with prohormones for more hypertrophy.
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Both awful comparisons this time.
There's some redundancy with MK677 + Or1gin and also the latter isn't meant for enhanced IGF-1 only, but a comparison like yours (slingshot vs M16) is completely OFF.
 
xtyler said:
Both awful comparisons this time.
There's some redundancy with MK677 + Or1gin and also the latter isn't meant for enhanced IGF-1 only, but a comparison like yours (slingshot vs M16) is completely OFF.
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It was meant as joke. My last post is actually is saying it can be stacked
 
xtyler said:
Both awful comparisons this time.
There's some redundancy with MK677 + Or1gin and also the latter isn't meant for enhanced IGF-1 only, but a comparison like yours (slingshot vs M16) is completely OFF.
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It seems like you have dropped the main point i wrote:

"But Or1gin has other effects such as increased digestion(leading to better nutrient uptake, stronger immune system ++++), containing robuvit for Ribosome Biogenesis etc.so they would be a good stack anyway especially on bulk "
 
CU is mostly pump, focus and energy based. cop does give good strength gains but it is not the products focus. for what it is meant to do it's probably the best formula on the market, however i see a lack of products geared specifically towards increased max. strength and incresed endurance (in terms of reps).

i realize one cannot make an all in one product that fully covers all bases, thats why i mention a product specifically for performance.
conquer demigod i thought was great with the high dose amento, i wonder why it is not used anymore. did it not live up to its expectations?
i respond extremely well to amento, so maybe i am in the minority.

some ingredients i would like to see in a pre: high dose amento, lc-fumarate, ubiquinol, shilajit.
 
Q & A FOR OR1GIN

BamBam0319 said:
Meh, LGD still has detrimental effects on the liver as well as suppressive to the HPTA. Also being an oral compound doesn't exactly disqualify it from being an AAS since some steroids are taken orally. Anyway that's besides the point.
I'm currently taking both orig1n and Mk-677. Too early on with the orig1n to tell how effective the combo is but I don't see why you shouldn't take them both.
I have absolutely been ravenously hungry since my first day of Orig1n and that's undeniable and not placebo.
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I don't agree about the comments of LGD being detrimental to the liver. I was in the middle of my LGD run and TRT doc wanted to unexpectedly run bloods. I was 4 weeks in at 8 mg and my LFTs came back in normal range. I was running a basic cycle support supp with just milk thistle and NAC. So in my case I would not say LGD is extremely harsh on the liver as you were suggesting.
 
xtyler said:
Bigger than you'd think...
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Lol thats why im holding off till then cause my spidey sense is tingling it will big a huge order. Im actually starting to have a problem with having too much OL products expiry date issues might occur.....
 
Danes said:
It seems like you have dropped the main point i wrote:

"But Or1gin has other effects such as increased digestion(leading to better nutrient uptake, stronger immune system ++++), containing robuvit for Ribosome Biogenesis etc.so they would be a good stack anyway especially on bulk "
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This is why im taking both mainly for ancillary benefits of origin. If im truly after GH ill just buy some kit's. It's just that i can save some money buying the origin/mk compared to 200-250$ a kit. Plus i love the sleep on MK.
 
ELROCK said:
I don't agree about the comments of LGD being detrimental to the liver. I was in the middle of my LGD run and TRT doc wanted to unexpectedly run bloods. I was 4 weeks in at 8 mg and my LFTs came back in normal range. I was running a basic cycle support supp with just milk thistle and NAC. So in my case I would not say LGD is extremely harsh on the liver as you were suggesting.
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I never said extremely harsh, did I? It can have negative effects on the liver without being in the extreme sense. Also, everyone is different. Some people are more drastically affected than others.
Kinda like how some people need an AI while on 500mg/week of testosterone or they'll get gyno, and then there are people who don't need an AI at all at the same dosage.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I never said extremely harsh, did I? It can have negative effects on the liver without being in the extreme sense. Also, everyone is different. Some people are more drastically affected than others.
Kinda like how some people need an AI while on 500mg/week of testosterone or they'll get gyno, and then there are people who don't need an AI at all at the same dosage.
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Yah i know some guys they are very sensitive compared to others this will be the same with everything ingested of injected. Everyone is going to be different same as going for an anesthetic and anesthesia shot I usually need the triple amount injected of i still feel pain or still awake. same with gear i have no issues on running over 1000mg with no AI, but always have everything on hand just incase.
 
Update: I'm one week in and there's a constant sort of bloat feeling in my gut that feels very similar to mk-677. Also, I seem to be holding excess water everywhere also similar to mk. Nothing else to comment on.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Update: I'm one week in and there's a constant sort of bloat feeling in my gut that feels very similar to mk-677. Also, I seem to be holding excess water everywhere also similar to mk. Nothing else to comment on.
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thanks for the update, waiting on mine, like some others.
 
Should be receiving mine this week,certainly not looking forward to a supplement that's gonna bloat me and make me hold water ?
 
jt75 said:
Should be receiving mine this week,certainly not looking forward to a supplement that's gonna bloat me and make me hold water ��
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A supplement will not bloat you on its own, diet dependent.
 
GNO said:
A supplement will not bloat you on its own, diet dependent.
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This.

I will make this simple as possible.
Even MK677 should not bloat anyone if the sodium/salt intake is reduced.
The water retention people get from MK677 is due to sodium intake. As you know, MK677 does increase sodium retention .MK does increase ADH (Vasopressin)and ACTH wich again increase sodium retention in kidneys/water retention. So one should be carefull with sodium intake.

This will NOT happen with Or1gin!

So, those who gets bloated with Or1gin should seriously take a good look at the diet
 
GNO said:
A supplement will not bloat you on its own, diet dependent.
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Danes said:
This.

I will make this simple as possible.
Even MK677 should not bloat anyone if the sodium/salt intake is reduced.
The water retention people get from MK677 is due to sodium intake. As you know, MK677 does increase sodium retention .MK does increase ADH (Vasopressin)and ACTH wich again increase sodium retention in kidneys/water retention. So one should be carefull with sodium intake.

This will NOT happen with Or1gin!

So, those who gets bloated with Or1gin should seriously take a good look at the diet
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Its very mild I will say, not like what creative or mk-677 does. Also, guys, it honestly is okay to admit a supplement isn't perfect. Nothing is perfect. In fact, the respect earned from admitting such things is definitely worth it. I'm not saying Orig1n isn't perfect and I'm also not saying the opposite. Just 1 account so far. We'll see what happens.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Its very mild I will say, not like what creative or mk-677 does. Also, guys, it honestly is okay to admit a supplement isn't perfect. Nothing is perfect. In fact, the respect earned from admitting such things is definitely worth it. I'm not saying Orig1n isn't perfect and I'm also not saying the opposite. Just 1 account so far. We'll see what happens.
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I made my comment as a general statement not necessarily in defense of Or1gin.

However, Or1gin is perfect in every way!
 
All this talk about GH/IGF-1 and no-one talking about Ribosome Biogenesis. Admittedly, we probably won't "feel" the effects from this pathway, but RB is what I'm most excited for, especially since I'm over 30 and have ~8 years of training under my belt. Anything that might help me break a plateau and get my old muscles to experience some newbie-like gains again through the activation of this novel pathway is the most compelling part of Or1gin...for me anyway.

I'm looking forward to what people start to report after a month or so. I suspect that's when we'll start seeing others experiencing some of the effects GNO, in particular has noticed, (dat boy's been hitting PR's like nobody's business!).
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redman24 said:
CU is mostly pump, focus and energy based. cop does give good strength gains but it is not the products focus. for what it is meant to do it's probably the best formula on the market, however i see a lack of products geared specifically towards increased max. strength and incresed endurance (in terms of reps).

i realize one cannot make an all in one product that fully covers all bases, thats why i mention a product specifically for performance.
conquer demigod i thought was great with the high dose amento, i wonder why it is not used anymore. did it not live up to its expectations?
i respond extremely well to amento, so maybe i am in the minority.

some ingredients i would like to see in a pre: high dose amento, lc-fumarate, ubiquinol, shilajit.
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Don't forget about ElevATP. I have personally experienced benefits in strength and endurance from this ingredient. Certainly more than I ever got from Amento, but the latter seems to have been largely hit-or-miss with folks. We appreciate the feedback and suggestions though. I would like to see any further comments about CU posted Invalid Link Removed so we can keep this one about Or1gin.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Its very mild I will say, not like what creative or mk-677 does. Also, guys, it honestly is okay to admit a supplement isn't perfect. Nothing is perfect. In fact, the respect earned from admitting such things is definitely worth it. I'm not saying Orig1n isn't perfect and I'm also not saying the opposite. Just 1 account so far. We'll see what happens.
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Nothing in this world is perfect but I can bet your bloat feeling is NOT due to Or1gin :)
 
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