Q & A FOR OR1GIN

ma70 said:
Yeah, it's funny. I live about 30 mins from the warehouse that ships stuff and it still takes it awhile to get here. Go figure.
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You can drive and pick it up.. Same thing with nutriverse.. Im generally in the Hoboken to Edgewater vicinity and I get shipments in a day or 2.. the only problems i ever have is when they have high order volumes and mines far down in the backup
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
You can drive and pick it up.. Same thing with nutriverse.. Im generally in the Hoboken to Edgewater vicinity and I get shipments in a day or 2.. the only problems i ever have is when they have high order volumes and mines far down in the backup
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I don't mind waiting since I'm too lazy to drive down there anyway. I already got my shipment of Or1gin and other goodies awhile back. Can't wait to use this stuff.
 
ma70 said:
I don't mind waiting since I'm too lazy to drive down there anyway. I already got my shipment of Or1gin and other goodies awhile back. Can't wait to use this stuff.
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Yeah im going to add it to my cycle hoping itll help me eat more... Gaining mass is actually hard for me and im a meso.. i just cant eat a lot
 
Just got my two bottles of Orig1n in the mail today when I got back from the gym. It's pretty much perfect timing, since I finished my bottle of Magnitropin (which also has gentian) yesterday. Should be good stuff!
 
ma70 said:
I don't mind waiting since I'm too lazy to drive down there anyway. I already got my shipment of Or1gin and other goodies awhile back. Can't wait to use this stuff.
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Normally I have it shipped but I have had business meetings not far from Them so I just stopped in
 
I would like to try this product from the next time.

I have some questions.

maximum for how many weeks can you take? more than 8 weeks? 12? always?

Someone is trying now?
feedback?
 
bb333 said:
I would like to try this product from the next time.

I have some questions.

maximum for how many weeks can you take? more than 8 weeks? 12? always?

Someone is trying now?
feedback?
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Its very new most people are just getting theirs now. Most someone's been on it is probably about a week now (non OL guys) so it's hard to tell exactly


I believe that was answered earlier in the thread
 
bb333 said:
I would like to try this product from the next time.

I have some questions.

maximum for how many weeks can you take? more than 8 weeks? 12? always?

Someone is trying now?
feedback?
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Product can be run 8wks+, theres no pressing reason to limit runs to less than 3 months unlike other natty supps.
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Product can be run 8wks+, theres no pressing reason to limit runs to less than 3 months unlike other natty supps.
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Would there be any reason to come off ever, if you wanted to run it non stop?

I don't believe in the "let your system return to homeostasis" reasoning, unless there is a negative feedback loop at work.

Crowbar
 
crowbar46 said:
Would there be any reason to come off ever, if you wanted to run it non stop?

I don't believe in the "let your system return to homeostasis" reasoning, unless there is a negative feedback loop at work.

Crowbar
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Yeah from what I understand there is no significant desensitisation/downregulation that might make cycling advisable.
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Yeah from what I understand there is no significant desensitisation/downregulation that might cycling advisable.
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Well i've read about ghrelin having negative effects on certain aspects of brain developement, however im sure the ghrelin secretion from a holistic product like this wouldnt attenuate said issue.
 
Is this supposed to give you like a slight euphoria? Like I feel a slight head change then some sort of tingling sensation but not like beta alanine it's more subtle and "softer" if that makes sense
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Well i've read about ghrelin having negative effects on certain aspects of brain developement, however im sure the ghrelin secretion from a holistic product like this wouldnt attenuate said issue.
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That's more with chronic(all day) release/mimicking of gherlin that causes that.
 
rtmilburn said:
That's more with chronic(all day) release/mimicking of gherlin that causes that.
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Mmm definitely would not worry at all about Or1gin causing any issues in that department at all. As others have said, there isn't any pressing issue to cycle. But like with most things it is prudent to cycle off to maintain effects.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Mmm definitely would not worry at all about Or1gin causing any issues in that department at all. As others have said, there isn't any pressing issue to cycle. But like with most things it is prudent to cycle off to maintain effects.
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That's what I meaning as well. I was more hinting that the brain issue that occur with gherlin is NOT an issue with anything other than mk
 
raul87 said:
Is this supposed to give you like a slight euphoria? Like I feel a slight head change then some sort of tingling sensation but not like beta alanine it's more subtle and "softer" if that makes sense
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I believe you are feeling the power of Robuvit, a non-stimmed positive feeling.
 
In The effects, it stated "increased weight gain" is that from the increased muscle fullness? & im assuming that comes from increased glycogen retention as well?
 
I received mine today, and when I opened the package, I instantly grew a 3rd leg(small leg though). Is this normal haha
 
Tylerclee said:
In The effects, it stated "increased weight gain" is that from the increased muscle fullness? & im assuming that comes from increased glycogen retention as well?
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Not just increased glycogen storage. IGF-1 does enhance skeletal muscle protein synthesis and so lean mass accrural.
 
Still it sounds like the holy grail ... boh! :)
I want to try, I will make two months in a row, are in bulk, over 15% of my TDEE, about 500g of carbohydrates per day :D
But in the meantime I would like to see some positive feedback with photos ... in short, a good log.
 
bb333 said:
Still it sounds like the holy grail ... boh! :)
I want to try, I will make two months in a row, are in bulk, over 15% of my TDEE, about 500g of carbohydrates per day :D
But in the meantime I would like to see some positive feedback with photos ... in short, a good log.
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I would say the best "log"would be if you run the product by yourself. That way, you will know exactly how your body reacted to the product and what kind of effects you got from it.
Ofcourse good logs are always fun to read but each individual eat, train, sleep etc differently and that can actually play a huge role how supplement work too
 
Danes said:
I would say the best "log"would be if you run the product by yourself. That way, you will know exactly how your body reacted to the product and what kind of effects you got from it.
Ofcourse good logs are always fun to read but each individual eat, train, sleep etc differently and that can actually play a huge role how supplement work too
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This.

I don't take much away from logs tbh.
 
bb333 said:
Still it sounds like the holy grail ... boh! :)
I want to try, I will make two months in a row, are in bulk, over 15% of my TDEE, about 500g of carbohydrates per day :D
But in the meantime I would like to see some positive feedback with photos ... in short, a good log.
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Simply put, most logs on here will never be decent or a good source of feedback. Gotta try everything yourself.
 
So far it has not made me hungry. Kind of like I am not sitting here saying wow I am starving, but when I do eat i feel I can just keep eating
 
Danes said:
I would say the best "log"would be if you run the product by yourself. That way, you will know exactly how your body reacted to the product and what kind of effects you got from it.
Ofcourse good logs are always fun to read but each individual eat, train, sleep etc differently and that can actually play a huge role how supplement work too
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Condivido al 100%!
 
bb333 said:
...I will make two months in a row, are in bulk, over 15% of my TDEE, about 500g of carbohydrates per day.
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You'll put on weight from food alone at +15% Kcals for 8 weeks. *I guess* if you have a recent "natty" +15% bulk to look back at, you can kind of compare the weight gain with and without Origin.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
You'll put on weight from food alone at +15% Kcals for 8 weeks. *I guess* if you have a recent "natty" +15% bulk to look back at, you can kind of compare the weight gain with and without Origin.
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Currently I am, ara + follidrone2.0 + alphamax xt. (1 + 1 month month- October-November) From 3 days to 15 +% of my TDEE. I do not know what to expect from Origin, honestly! Unfortunately, you know what one needs to do? Always keep the same calories, 3000kcal for example, try 2 months follidrone2.0, well, it increased 2kg? very well! Now I do, always at 3000kcal, 2 months anabeta elite v2, well, I increased 2kg? very well. Now I do, always at 3000kcal, 2 months Origin, well, at the end of two months have increased by more 2kg? very well! then it worked. No update my TDEE, always starting from the same calories, if you see a weight surplus, or muscle quality (in the mirror), then we say, that one would think that the supplement has helped. Otherwise, If I every time I change supplement, change also the diet, so the risk of not understanding which of the two, diet or supplement, has been the most important. I hope it is understood, English bad: D
 
bb333 said:
Currently I am, ara + follidrone2.0 + alphamax xt. (1 + 1 month month- October-November) From 3 days to 15 +% of my TDEE. I do not know what to expect from Origin, honestly! Unfortunately, you know what one needs to do? Always keep the same calories, 3000kcal for example, try 2 months follidrone2.0, well, it increased 2kg? very well! Now I do, always at 3000kcal, 2 months anabeta elite v2, well, I increased 2kg? very well. Now I do, always at 3000kcal, 2 months Origin, well, at the end of two months have increased by more 2kg? very well! then it worked. No update my TDEE, always starting from the same calories, if you see a weight surplus, or muscle quality (in the mirror), then we say, that one would think that the supplement has helped. Otherwise, If I every time I change supplement, change also the diet, so the risk of not understanding which of the two, diet or supplement, has been the most important. I hope it is understood, English bad: D
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This is how it should be, but unfortunately, people look at "bulking stacks" and add supplements AND calories at the same time without knowing if it does anything. I'll be one of the few that will be using a training program I've stuck with for half a year now (and probably around a year by the time I start Or1gin) that will also be eating at maintenance calories once I get on Or1gin so I can give it a real review.
 
ma70 said:
This is how it should be, but unfortunately, people look at "bulking stacks" and add supplements AND calories at the same time without knowing if it does anything. I'll be one of the few that will be using a training program I've stuck with for half a year now (and probably around a year by the time I start Or1gin) that will also be eating at maintenance calories once I get on Or1gin so I can give it a real review.
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Right! Bravo! In fact I'll do that, like you ;)
 
I will make two months in a row, are in bulk, over 15% of my TDEE, about 500g of carbohydrates per day
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So are you going to eat at TDEE or +15% Kcals? If I've misunderstood the above, I apologize. Also, If you added LBM previously, you need to re-calculate TDEE (will go up a bit). Also, I assume you are progressing on your lifts? That also (by itself) will add some LBM (without getting into the weeds regarding rep ranges, hypertrophy, and CNS adaptation).

I plan on running 8 weeks as well, at maintenance, and getting a before and after Serum GH level at Labcorps. That's the plan anyway - we'll see if I can manage to drag my a$$ down there soon :D
 
The_Old_Guy said:
So are you going to eat at TDEE or +15% Kcals? If I've misunderstood the above, I apologize. Also, If you added LBM previously, you need to re-calculate TDEE (will go up a bit). Also, I assume you are progressing on your lifts? That also (by itself) will add some LBM (without getting into the weeds regarding rep ranges, hypertrophy, and CNS adaptation).

I plan on running 8 weeks as well, at maintenance, and getting a before and after Serum GH level at Labcorps. That's the plan anyway - we'll see if I can manage to drag my a$$ down there soon :D
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Excellent.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
So are you going to eat at TDEE or +15% Kcals? If I've misunderstood the above, I apologize. Also, If you added LBM previously, you need to re-calculate TDEE (will go up a bit). Also, I assume you are progressing on your lifts? That also (by itself) will add some LBM (without getting into the weeds regarding rep ranges, hypertrophy, and CNS adaptation).

I plan on running 8 weeks as well, at maintenance, and getting a before and after Serum GH level at Labcorps. That's the plan anyway - we'll see if I can manage to drag my a$$ down there soon :D
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+15% ;)
 
How does this compare/contrast to MK677, or does it really at all?

Also, would taking Anticholinergic cause this to not have any effect? I'm taking Glycopyrrolate which is a Muscarinic Anticholinergic. It does not cross the BBB so I'm not sure how it affects these things.

Studies show GH release is blunted by Anticholinergics after the administration of GHRP and GHRH.
 
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