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KLEEN - STRONG BODY STRONG MIND!

Hyde said:
Sounds like proper overreaching to me. If you don't feel like crap by the time you're 1-2 weeks out, you probably aren't going to get the super compensation you're after.
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Well then I must be doing GREAT!!!!
jimbuick said:
I feel like crap, but that's mostly the sleep deprivation.
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Yeah that will do it! Hopefully you can get a lil sleep before the meet.
Hyde said:
You guys are doing the same meet, right?
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jimbuick said:
Yeah
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Yeah no doubt, will be nice having someone I know in the meet as well.
Hyde said:
You gonna give him his first competition backslap??

I once watched a guy hit someone so hard before deadlift he knocked him down on accident
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That's a big negative ghost rider!
jimbuick said:
He's not a backslap kind of lifter.
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This!!!! I already told him I am not in any need of being assaulted to get myself hyped up. I kind of get an internal hype, I tend to center myself, and really focus before a lift.
kenpoengineer said:
LOL. If I backslapped Kleen I'd run like hell after!!
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It would be prudent!
booneman77 said:
to the hospital... for your now-broken hand haha
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LOL I imagine if someone slapped me good their hand would sting about as much as my back.

So this last deadlift session was a good one before I hit the wall. Increased my working weight from last week by 15lbs and gave it some hell. Every rep was supposed to be a 10 so I went for it.

Deads - 135x5, 225x3, 315x3, 405x1, 475x1, 525x1, 545x1, 555x1, 560x1, 565x1, 570x1, 575x1, 580xf, 555xf, 525x1 - I couldn't quite find the RPE-10 here. Each weight jump felt like the one before until I bumped to 580 and only got it about 3 inches off the floor. The 575 moved MUCH easier this time than when I originally PR'd with it a while back.

[video=youtube;aaxkDtbpncU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaxkDtbpncU[/video]

Rack Pulls for Speed - 365x3, 365x3, 315x3 x 7 sets - didn't have the 365 in me this time. Body just too beat up.

I am so ready for this week. I have a relatively easy day today, I will do 4 sets of singles @ 90% of top working weight for each lift. Wednesday I will repeat it but with only 2 sets each and at 95% of max working weight.

We also lowered the DBol a little my stomach was getting upset and making it hard to eat. It seemed to start about the time we bumped the DBol to 50mg. I think I just wasn't taking enough TUDCA to cover that and the gear. Since I don't have time to wait on more TUDCA we lowered the oral dose. Since we did that we added 100mg to the weekly total on Tren to pick up the slack. I will still hit the 50mg DBol on the day of the meet though.

Really looking forward to the meet. I have Thursday through Monday off. I am hovering prettly close to the 220 mark so I may drive out Thursday night to weigh in early Friday before i start eating. I was 217.3 yesterday so I don't expect any issues but if I gain any throughout the week I will have to make an adjustment.
 
Hyde said:
Oh so you're more of a slap on the ass kind of guy?? Lol

Those pulls looked solid. 600 will be a shoe-in
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You know it!

Thanks I am feeling pretty confident right now. Everything has been coming together. My coach dropped the volume on my workout yesterday to just 2 sets at 90% for each lift to make sure I get some more recovery this week. All I need to do now is go pick up some wrestling shoes and my long socks. I will more than likely do that tonight or Thursday while I have the day off.
 
Hyde said:
Wait why wrestling shoes now? I would compete in exactly what you trained in.
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I have been training in crew socks. I thought I ordered some DL slippers with my singlet and stuff but I didn't put it in the cart apparently. Now it is too close to the meet to try and order some. I can't think of any other shoe closer to a sock than some basic wrestling shoes. They are basically a lace up slipper with 1/8 inch flat flexible rubber soles so there is no give to them.

Do you have any other ideas or suggestions?
 
Oh yeah I almost forgot, spoke with coach and we made another adjustment since things were feeling a little heavy yesterday. Instead of 2 sets of singles @95% on Wednesday, we are going to do 2 light speed work sets. Just enough to engage the CNS but not cut into recovery.
 
jimbuick said:
He had you pulling 95% 3 days before the meet?
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Originally yes, that was the plan. It's a little different approach than some but the idea is that we already know the CNS begins to get sluggish around the 48 hour mark of inactivity. This makes it a little less efficient at firing quickly, AKA you being less explosive. Now you are still going to get the CNS super-compensation regardless, but that does not change the fact if you haven't trained in over 48 hours your CNS is firing a little less efficiently than it could.

With those things in mind, peppering in a couple of VERY low volume workouts that still wake up the CNS but do not cut into the recovery or super-compensation effect and you have now optimized the CNS in 2 ways instead of just one. The key is really in not cutting into the supercompensation effect while trying to signal the CNS for explosiveness.

It is a see-saw balancing act, and why we had to adjust to keep me from cutting into the super-compensation effect.
 
jimbuick said:
Flights were released today.

I'm in the back half of C, your are in the Middle of D.
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Yeah I saw that. With how many are in each flight like 18 or so. How long do you think that might take? Does it look like we will we have much downtime in between lifts?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah I saw that. With how many are in each flight like 18 or so. How long do you think that might take? Does it look like we will we have much downtime in between lifts?
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The meet itself will go pretty quickly, if it's anything like last time. Probably a couple of minutes between attempts, which will be plenty of time to recover but not enough to go cold.
 
jimbuick said:
The meet itself will go pretty quickly, if it's anything like last time. Probably a couple of minutes between attempts, which will be plenty of time to recover but not enough to go cold.
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Sounds good. I am definitely excited! How about you? When are you going up? Are you going to have to work to make your weight class? I just need to make sure i am not over 220 but that shouldn't be a problem. I will have to go and weigh in Friday morning though. If I wait I will cross the 220 threshold pretty quickly.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Sounds good. I am definitely excited! How about you? When are you going up? Are you going to have to work to make your weight class? I just need to make sure i am not over 220 but that shouldn't be a problem. I will have to go and weigh in Friday morning though. If I wait I will cross the 220 threshold pretty quickly.
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We won't be able to leave until late Friday, I might have to talk to the meet director to weigh-in Saturday.

And I doubt it, if anything I might be under my weight class and then I'll end up competing as a 181.
 
Wrestling shoes are great for pulling, as are Chucks. I just always train as I compete, so I never pull in socks. I forgot you've been shoeless!

Pulling 90%+ 4 days before comp for a male conventional puller is just counterproductive. Its just totally unnecessary. Do 3x3 on box jumps or Med ball slams Wednesday and a few speed squat singles w 225 after a mobilizing warmup, and drag some sled on off-days.

It would be different for bench certainly, but pulling I have to vehemently disagree. Success leaves cues, and to say there is greater risk than reward in that scenario would be an understatement.
 
jimbuick said:
We won't be able to leave until late Friday, I might have to talk to the meet director to weigh-in Saturday.

And I doubt it, if anything I might be under my weight class and then I'll end up competing as a 181.
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Oh wow, those numbers would be even better for you if that was the case. I am heading up Thursday night, will stay with a friend then weigh in Friday morning since I am hovering in the 218 upon waking area.
Hyde said:
Wrestling shoes are great for pulling, as are Chucks. I just always train as I compete, so I never pull in socks. I forgot you've been shoeless!

Pulling 90%+ 4 days before comp for a male conventional puller is just counterproductive. Its just totally unnecessary. Do 3x3 on box jumps or Med ball slams Wednesday and a few speed squat singles w 225 after a mobilizing warmup, and drag some sled on off-days.

It would be different for bench certainly, but pulling I have to vehemently disagree. Success leaves cues, and to say there is greater risk than reward in that scenario would be an understatement.
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Okay, yeah the wrestling shoes should be great. I will definitely train in what I plan to compete in for my next meet. This one had so many things come up during the meet and so many unexpected exenses that I wasn't able to pre-order everything like I originally planned. Dropping 700 on training equipment was not part of the original plan. After that it was all trying to catch back up monetarily.

Yeah the Dead lifts were the only thing to concern me with that practice. Also part of the reason I did not take dead lifts up yesterday. I felt some fatigue in my lower back on my 2nd warm up set and called it. Conventional Deads can definitely put a damper on the CNS, and I wasn't willing to dig a hole.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Oh wow, those numbers would be even better for you if that was the case. I am heading up Thursday night, will stay with a friend then weigh in Friday morning since I am hovering in the 218 upon waking area.


Okay, yeah the wrestling shoes should be great. I will definitely train in what I plan to compete in for my next meet. This one had so many things come up during the meet and so many unexpected exenses that I wasn't able to pre-order everything like I originally planned. Dropping 700 on training equipment was not part of the original plan. After that it was all trying to catch back up monetarily.

Yeah the Dead lifts were the only thing to concern me with that practice. Also part of the reason I did not take dead lifts up yesterday. I felt some fatigue in my lower back on my 2nd warm up set and called it. Conventional Deads can definitely put a damper on the CNS, and I wasn't willing to dig a hole.
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Well that depends on what numbers I'm capable of on meet day lol.
 
jimbuick said:
Well that depends on what numbers I'm capable of on meet day lol.
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Well if you are in homeostasis weight wise I doubt your numbers would drop just because you were a pound or two off on the scale. If you had to do something to lose the weight I could see it being detrimental but probably not so much if you are eating normally and happen to be lighter that day.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well if you are in homeostasis weight wise I doubt your numbers would drop just because you were a pound or two off on the scale. If you had to do something to lose the weight I could see it being detrimental but probably not so much if you are eating normally and happen to be lighter that day.
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It's not the weight loss I'm worried about, it's the super compensation I may have missed out on.
 
jimbuick said:
I may or may not have some at the house......

Running a PCT for a 3 day cycle seems like a waste of good product lol!
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You would not need a PCT for a 3-4 day cycle so that would indeed be a waste. In 3-4 days you will barely even begin to start suppression. Just enough for a good boost for the meet then stop. No PCT needed with such a short time frame. You will not be shut down.
 
Made the 220 class was 99.32 kilos and 100 kilos was the cut off. I am at the hotel waiting on a gourmet pizza delivery to get all carbed up now!

Excited for tomorrow and feeling good.
 
Good lifting and safe wishes to you both.
 
1,459lb total with what sounds like strong potential for a 1,500 at 220! Nice way for a first meet to go I'd say!
 
Dude, I wish I had asked if you were competing in the open while we were at the meet....

State DL record for open 220 is 622, and we definitely could've had you take a 4th and break that.
 
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