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Alpha TESTs Earths Darkside (first cycle log)

Alpha1agreda said:
Yeah I know just was in a rush to go on Sunday I'll actually boil water on the stove on Thursday and put the test in there after thanks for the heads up!
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If it gets too hot, you can pull it in the syringe and let it cool in there to the temp you want. Sometimes I'll forget the vial and it'll be stupid hot.
 
I brew my test together with my morning coffee in the espresso machine.

Nah, kidding! Don't do that!

I warm it in lukewarm water, because did not know you can heat it more.
Can recommend the insulin-delt injection method, takes awhile to draw -and push though.
How much test has 1ml of your solution, Alpha1agreda ? I guess the more test per ml, the more ouchi.
Mine is 250mg/ml, no pain.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I brew my test together with my morning coffee in the espresso machine.

Nah, kidding! Don't do that!

I warm it in lukewarm water, because did not know you can heat it more.
Can recommend the insulin-delt injection method, takes awhile to draw -and push though.
How much test has 1ml of your solution, Alpha1agreda ? I guess the more test per ml, the more ouchi.
Mine is 250mg/ml, no pain.
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Mine is 250 as well
 
Isn't there some kind of chemical degradation with high temp? Never u used straight test before so dunno much about it.
 
If you manage to gain 40lbs in 12 weeks, you are gonna feel that. Every 20lbs I'd say really changes how I feel. The difference between 200 and 220 is substantial. The difference between 220 and 240 was even more so. I pushed my weight up to 245 last December and am just now back down to 227 and just as strong. I move and sleep and feel much better, and the volume of work I manage in training is higher now. If it's 20 lbs gained and you still look how you want or 30 you had to get fat to make, I'd take the 20.

You can be fat and still be very conditioned, but you need to be really diligent to keep your pace and frequency up if you wanna do it. It's easy for it to slide off otherwise as the weight goes up.
 
Hyde said:
If you manage to gain 40lbs in 12 weeks, you are gonna feel that. Every 20lbs I'd say really changes how I feel. The difference between 200 and 220 is substantial. The difference between 220 and 240 was even more so. I pushed my weight up to 245 last December and am just now back down to 227 and just as strong. I move and sleep and feel much better, and the volume of work I manage in training is higher now. If it's 20 lbs gained and you still look how you want or 30 you had to get fat to make, I'd take the 20.

You can be fat and still be very conditioned, but you need to be really diligent to keep your pace and frequency up if you wanna do it. It's easy for it to slide off otherwise as the weight goes up.
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Yeah you're right I know the mirror is more important then the scale but i got all my ducks in a row you think 30 lbs heavier and still somewhat lean is possible? Mostly cuz I was 220 at this time last year (20-25% bf from dirty bulking which was great strongest I ever been) and after I cut down to 190 I've maintained around 200-205 this whole year so that's why I'd be somewhat disappointed if I only got back to where I've been all year by gaining 10-15, hoping to at very least get to 215 and still under 15%
 
Leegggggg dayyyy ladies and gentlemen !!!! ... And shoulder day lol woke up nervous my leg was gunna cripple my workout. It's nothing I can't deal with its just extremely sore but I pushed through it and had a kick ass workout
Skwaaaattttzzzzzz
45x8 135x8
245x5 245x5 245x5 245x5
Leg press (platesXreps)
5x8 5x8 5x10
Db Lunges 1 leg
30x8 30x8 30x7
Leg ext/ leg curls suppaset (same weight)
110x15/12 110x15/12 110
Shoulders
Shoulder press
95x5 warmup
135x5 135x5 135x5 135x5 135x5
Hammer strength seated shoulder press (platesXreps)
3x8 3x8 3x8 3x8
Db one arm lat raise
30x8 30x8 30x8
Rope front raises
50x12 50x12 50x12
Idk if it's placebo or not but I've been in a better mood and I love it I have more energy specially for a 5 am workout after a long day yesterday which in the middle f the night I kept waking up cuz my girl wasn't feeling to great. Hope this general "good" feeling lasts the whole cycle lol
 
Joedoubledose said:
Thinking imma do 11kt with epiandro
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I thought about 11kt for the cortisol but my buddy just ran it and didn't care for it too much, I think winny and epidrone might be route for the second half , I really thought about Eq for a while (cuz I got easy access to some) but I'll save that for a longer cycle and hopefully get 6 weeks of winny in , but main goal is to bulk so I'm conflicted haha
 
Alpha1agreda said:
I thought about 11kt for the cortisol but my buddy just ran it and didn't care for it too much, I think winny and epidrone might be route for the second half , I really thought about Eq for a while (cuz I got easy access to some) but I'll save that for a longer cycle and hopefully get 6 weeks of winny in , but main goal is to bulk so I'm conflicted haha
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Winny can help you bulk bro, it's a great steroid. It also lowers shbg which is why you usually see it on the second half of a cycle
 
yates84 said:
Winny can help you bulk bro, it's a great steroid. It also lowers shbg which is why you usually see it on the second half of a cycle
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Ok sold lol, epiandro suppose to help lower SHBG too that's why I think it'd be a dope finisher to stack the too together
 
Alpha1agreda said:
Ok sold lol, epiandro suppose to help lower SHBG too that's why I think it'd be a dope finisher to stack the too together
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That's 2 dht derivatives (the reason they both lower shbg) and it might be too dry and fuk your joints up. I would skip the epi and just roll with the winny, will work a lot better for you imo.
 
yates84 said:
That's 2 dht derivatives (the reason they both lower shbg) and it might be too dry and fuk your joints up. I would skip the epi and just roll with the winny, will work a lot better for you imo.
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You see I thought about that but I thought I could get away with it as long as I up my fish oil and joint supps . Specially since I'll be on the MK by then
 
Alpha1agreda said:
You see I thought about that but I thought I could get away with it as long as I up my fish oil and joint supps . Specially since I'll be on the MK by then
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Worse comes to worse just up your test ;)
 
Alpha1agreda said:
Yeah you're right I know the mirror is more important then the scale but i got all my ducks in a row you think 30 lbs heavier and still somewhat lean is possible? Mostly cuz I was 220 at this time last year (20-25% bf from dirty bulking which was great strongest I ever been) and after I cut down to 190 I've maintained around 200-205 this whole year so that's why I'd be somewhat disappointed if I only got back to where I've been all year by gaining 10-15, hoping to at very least get to 215 and still under 15%
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Yes, considering you have already been that weight - once you have been a weight, it is always much easier for a person to get back to the bigger weight than if they had never been so heavy. Fat cells don't go away, just empty.

Paul Carter talks about how he spent a lot of time at 275-290 at 5'10" while powerlifting, and when he finally came down to about 220 to compete in bodybuilding his rebound out of the show was fierce. Being very deliberate NOT to just blow up or gain hard, he still has gone up to about 245 shredded over maybe 12 weeks.
 
Alpha1agreda said:
I thought about 11kt for the cortisol but my buddy just ran it and didn't care for it too much, I think winny and epidrone might be route for the second half , I really thought about Eq for a while (cuz I got easy access to some) but I'll save that for a longer cycle and hopefully get 6 weeks of winny in , but main goal is to bulk so I'm conflicted haha
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Same here just trying to add mass . I Will bust out a sick cycle for when I cut next .
 
Alpha1agreda said:
I had talked to a couple people about this as well I had asked if 40/40/20/20 or 6 weeks woulda been better but they said with the clomid I should be good
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There is a good thread on Clomid dosages and pros/cons to the higher dosages versus lower (sort of like pre-loading creatine then lowering the dose versus just a low dose for the same period)

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Hyde said:
Yes, considering you have already been that weight - once you have been a weight, it is always much easier for a person to get back to the bigger weight than if they had never been so heavy. Fat cells don't go away, just empty.

Paul Carter talks about how he spent a lot of time at 275-290 at 5'10" while powerlifting, and when he finally came down to about 220 to compete in bodybuilding his rebound out of the show was fierce. Being very deliberate NOT to just blow up or gain hard, he still has gone up to about 245 shredded over maybe 12 weeks.
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Damn that's crazy I hope so , I was only at above 210 and up to 220 for about a month and some change from dirty bulking I looked like **** but it fuccing kicked ass lmao just stuffing my face with pizza desserts burgers pizza burgers desserts ice creams pizza desserts BURGERS lmao and like 3-4 mass gainers a day and it was the strongest I ever been and natural too lol if I didn't look like crap I'd do it year round haha
Joedoubledose said:
Same here just trying to add mass . I Will bust out a sick cycle for when I cut next .
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I got my buddy working on something good for the cut cycle ~spring 2017, as the research and planning is his specialty if it were up to me we'd probably be just taking everything at once lmao. I just get the supplies haha
Sparkss said:
There is a good thread on Clomid dosages and pros/cons to the higher dosages versus lower (sort of like pre-loading creatine then lowering the dose versus just a low dose for the same period)

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Appreciate it brother glad to have you in here ! I will warn you it might get crazy haha
 
tonights funny

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Alpha1agreda said:
Appreciate it brother glad to have you in here ! I will warn you it might get crazy haha
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Counting on it!!! My doc is talking about putting me on TRT since my last blood work was pretty low. Once I cross that (hormone) threshold the (natty) gloves are off. Plus, if I can get a prescription for the Test from him and start pinning myself it will save $$. So I am following your "adventure" very closely for many reasons. Sorry it took me so long to catch up on the thread :).
 
Sparkss said:
Counting on it!!! My doc is talking about putting me on TRT since my last blood work was pretty low. Once I cross that (hormone) threshold the (natty) gloves are off. Plus, if I can get a prescription for the Test from him and start pinning myself it will save $$. So I am following your "adventure" very closely for many reasons. Sorry it took me so long to catch up on the thread :).
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Sounds good homie ! Just glad your in here haha I'll make sure I keep it as detailed as possible!
 
Jelly of your shoulder structure for bench! 385 natty ain't playin around. I got these monkey pulling arms lol
 
Hyde said:
Jelly of your shoulder structure for bench! 385 natty ain't playin around. I got these monkey pulling arms lol
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Yeah man I was dying for 405 but just couldn't move it and everyone started calling me fat lol had to make a change
 
Alpha1agreda said:
Sounds good homie ! Just glad your in here haha I'll make sure I keep it as detailed as possible!
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Wouldn't miss it. I can't wait to see how beastly you get. Your starting point is pretty impressive, I can tell it's going to be a wild ride!
 
Ok fellas chest and back day in the books! Felt like crap the first half to the point I had to step outside for about 2 minutes because I thought I was going to puke again. Came back in and felt better but couldn't get in it 100% still was a great workout finished it with 10 minute cardio session high resistance on the bike 135-145bpm the whole time . Feeling great now ready for tomorrow pin, legs and arm day haha
Chest back
Incline
225x5 205x7 205x8 145x9+3 rest pause
Db flat
90x10 90x10 90x9 90x8
Machine incline
4x10
Db inc fly/cable fly superset
4x15/15
Pull ups 5x5
Pull downs
135x12 165x10 195x8 210x6+135x4
Wide grip low cable row
135x12 135x12 135x12 135x12
Low cable standing vbar row
200x12 200x12 200x12 200x12
 
Ahh see you're following a similar bulking split as I will be.
 
Wow wish I could bulk like that! Lucky dude
 
Late to the party but I'm here. Had a lot to catch up on in just a week. Geeze.
 
lifted67 said:
Ahh see you're following a similar bulking split as I will be.
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Chest tris, back bis , legs shoulders, chest back, legs arms, shoulders, possibly rest lmao
yates84 said:
Wow wish I could bulk like that! Lucky dude
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habajaba said:
Dang bro, you are absolutely killing it now that I've seen that!
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Haha thanks guys it was a fun time eating everything just to see the scale move , not something I'd do often thou but possibly again at some point , it was necessary cuz I was so damn small when I started lol
 
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