D-Aspartic Acid

Boost test depending on brand with what else in it but also increases libido and aggression
 
Dangus said:
I've heard it raises natural test and that it doesn't yada yada. What does it actually do??
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its a temp thing, week or 2 at the most. thinking this will bring you back to normal or keep you going for months; not going to happen.

1800-3000 mg a day 2 weeks, can use for a longer period, but not really going to do much after that
 
DUbz86 said:
Stack with anafuse or laxogeni and epi good gains for natty
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i would use the lax and epi and tall end the daa to pct - thats me,
 
Dont waste your money on daa !!!
Every single bloodwork from daa i have seen was negative/bad, if anything it will lower your test.
It will raise your prolactin tho.
Much better products out there.
 
smith_69 said:
i would use the lax and epi and tall end the daa to pct - thats me,
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Yes I did a 8 weeks run with those three crazy pump for natural supplements and don't need to worry about pct or anything. Appetite will go up and pump stays with you hours after lifting. But make sure your diet and lifting is on point before. This combo good for experienced lifters if not stick with protein creatine
 
Perhaps it can be useful for people with low-T for whatever reason, but newer research seems to show that it's not going to do much of anything for lifters with normal testosterone levels:
Twenty-four males, with a minimum of two years' experience in resistance training, (age, 24.5 ± 3.2 y; training experience, 3.4 ± 1.4 y; height, 178.5 ± 6.5 cm; weight, 84.7 ± 7.2 kg; bench press 1-RM, 105.3 ± 15.2 kg) were randomised into one of three groups: 6 g.d(-1) plain flour (D0); 3 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D3); and 6 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D6). Participants performed a two-week washout period, training four days per week. This continued through the experimental period (14 days), with participants consuming the supplement in the morning. Serum was analysed for levels of testosterone, estradiol, sex hormone binding globulin, albumin and free testosterone was determined by calculation.

D-aspartic acid supplementation revealed no main effect for group in: estradiol; sex-hormone-binding-globulin; and albumin. Total testosterone was significantly reduced in D6 (P = 0.03). Analysis of free testosterone showed that D6 was significantly reduced as compared to D0 (P = 0.005), but not significantly different to D3. Analysis did not reveal any significant differences between D3 and D0. No significant correlation between initial total testosterone levels and responsiveness to d-aspartic acid was observed (r = 0.10, P = 0.70).

The present study demonstrated that a daily dose of six grams of d-aspartic acid decreased levels of total testosterone and free testosterone (D6), without any concurrent change in other hormones measured. Three grams of d-aspartic acid had no significant effect on either testosterone markers. It is currently unknown what effect this reduction in testosterone will have on strength and hypertrophy gains.
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Resistance-trained men resistance trained 4 times/wk for 28 days while orally ingesting either 3 g of placebo or 3 g of D-ASP. Data were analyzed with 2 × 2 analysis of variance (P < .05).

The gonadal hormones were unaffected by 28 days of D-ASP supplementation and not associated with the observed increases in muscle strength and mass. Therefore, at the dose provided, D-ASP supplementation is ineffective in up-regulating the activity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis and has no anabolic or ergogenic effects in skeletal muscle.
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The first study I referenced regarding DAA was published recently (2015), and used subjects with at least 2 years experience resistance training, and the study also had subjects train 4-days a week. If you look at the full text (which I put a link to below), you'll see that both 3g and 6g DAA REDUCED free testosterone relative to no DAA (although the decrease was only significant in the 6g group):
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What is it you're hoping for from DAA?
 
Well most natural test boosters don't do much but do give you alpha male feeling and placebo effect so helps aggression in gym and your wife or girlfriend will like it cause it's like you back in high school with libido
 
DUbz86 said:
Well most natural test boosters don't do much but do give you alpha male feeling and placebo effect so helps aggression in gym and your wife or girlfriend will like it cause it's like you back in high school with libido
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While I do agree that the improved mood and libido from test boosters is a big part of why people like them, a good test booster (like AlphaMax XT or Testify) will also have ingredients that have other, less subjective and more measurable benefits, such as improved body composition, strength, and/or endurance. I don't see anything wrong with people taking a test booster solely for improved mood and libido (improved quality of life), but I personally like some other more tangible benefits when I take a test booster as well. It does depend on what you're looking for with a natural test booster, and of course, you're not going to get anywhere near the benefits that are associated with supraphysiological levels of testosterone.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
While I do agree that the improved mood and libido from test boosters is a big part of why people like them, a good test booster (like AlphaMax XT or Testify) will also have ingredients that have other, less subjective and more measurable benefits, such as improved body composition, strength, and/or endurance. I don't see anything wrong with people taking a test booster solely for improved mood and libido (improved quality of life), but I personally like some other more tangible benefits when I take a test booster as well. It does depend on what you're looking for with a natural test booster, and of course, you're not going to get anywhere near the benefits that are associated with supraphysiological levels of testosterone.
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Very true but stacked with epi/lax for natty I noticed gains on lifts and when you get that alpha feel tend to push more weight but still never take even natty test booster longer than 8 weeks needs to be cycled
 
DUbz86 said:
Very true but stacked with epi/lax for natty I noticed gains on lifts and when you get that alpha feel tend to push more weight but still never take even natty test booster longer than 8 weeks needs to be cycled
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I think the positive results you were getting were from the laxo/epi and you thought the daa was involved. I bet if you ran the laxo/epi again you'll realize you never really needed the daa to begin with.
 
Cooter Flap said:
I think the positive results you were getting were from the laxo/epi and you thought the daa was involved. I bet if you ran the laxo/epi again you'll realize you never really needed the daa to begin with.
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Probably right but maybe an placebo effect to gain aggression while lifting but hey my girl didn't complain lol. Pumps off epi/cat at right doses is pretty nice stays with you hours later
 
masterpiter said:
Dont waste your money on daa !!!
Every single bloodwork from daa i have seen was negative/bad, if anything it will lower your test.
It will raise your prolactin tho.
Much better products out there.
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You are completely wrong - there are 2 or 3 showing it will raise T level and ONE that shows it doesnt
 
mw1 said:
You are completely wrong - there are 2 or 3 showing it will raise T level and ONE that shows it doesnt
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There are at least two recent studies showing it doesn't increase testosterone in people with normal testosterone levels paired with resistance training. It seems more likely that it can increase testosterone for people with low T, but not normal T.

Distilled Water said:
FWIW one the the TOP coaches out there, who is a hormone study nerd, recommends 4gr while cruising or in PCT.
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This makes some sense, considering the research seems to point to no increase in subjects with normal T levels, but some increase in subjects with low T.
 
mw1 said:
You are completely wrong - there are 2 or 3 showing it will raise T level and ONE that shows it doesnt
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Just google daa bloodwork...Just find me one , just one that shows that it can incarse t lvls by normal healty people.
I bet u cant, i tryed it myself, all of them show no incarse whatsoever.
Daa is a big scamm,i bought it too, before i knew more about it.
In fact, for me it is the biggest scamm of all supps
 
muscleupcrohn said:
There are at least two recent studies showing it doesn't increase testosterone in people with normal testosterone levels paired with resistance training. It seems more likely that it can increase testosterone for people with low T, but not normal T.


This makes some sense, considering the research seems to point to no increase in subjects with normal T levels, but some increase in subjects with low T.
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keep in mind that many use daa in pct....
 
thebigt said:
keep in mind that many use daa in pct....
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which kind of negates those studies.

on a side note, i seriously wish these clowns in the white jackets would have the balls to say, lets do research on a middle age male who has been running PH's. Not some guy who is in great shape or very good health. Normal males between the age of bla bla. We all know the majority arent in that catagory; stress alone is a huge body killer.
for all we know, these tests were done on some dude who lived on an island and was hand fed grapes all day long lol
 
thebigt said:
keep in mind that many use daa in pct....
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Yes, that's why I specified that the studies showing no effect or decrease used subjects with normal testosterone levels. Lots of people with normal test (not in PCT), use DAA, and I feel there are much better options for them.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Yes, that's why I specified that the studies showing no effect or decrease used subjects with normal testosterone levels. Lots of people with normal test (not in PCT), use DAA, and I feel there are much better options for them.
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lol...hell, I bet that half the 30 somethings on this forum have low test. usually when someone is looking for a testBOOSTER there is a reason.
 
thebigt said:
lol...hell, I bet that half the 30 somethings on this forum have low test. usually when someone is looking for a testBOOSTER there is a reason.
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Keep in mind I am not only talking about forum users, but the supplement using population as a whole (us forum members make up a very small minority of that population). Between people I know, and my time working at VS, I've seen many young guys, as early as high school, use test boosters. There is a common misconception that a natural test booster will produce results associated with supraphysiological testosterone levels, especially among less educated consumers (who likely don't know what supraphysiological means); hell, plenty of women say they don't want to take protein powder or pre-workout because they don't want to get too big, and too many people put creatine in the same category as steroids. In fact, while it is only an anecdote, when I worked at VS, there were many more people in their teens to 20s buying test boosters than 40-50s.
 
Assuming a "real" PCT with a SERM like Clomid or Nolva, why on earth would anyone take DAA? The Italian Hypogonadal Study, which is probably what got this stuff flying off the shelves, showed, at best, a 40% increase. Percentages are BS though, because if you are member UncleSARM, with a finishing Test level of 124ng/dl after an 8 week Osta run, a 50% increase will bring you to a whopping 186ng/dl. Meanwhile, member fit1962 used Clomid to get up to 1344ng/dl. DAA is useless in a PCT that involves a SERM (or any PCT at all if it is following chemical/drug use IMO). Now, if you are at a natural 300ng/dl, and want to do a special dance to the Gods and pray for 450ng/dl from DAA (for 12 days before negative feedback) - OK, cool. But PCT from exogenous drugs? If you used drugs to cause the problem, use drugs to fix it. My $0.02
 
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