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My Mk677 log 2016

smith_69 said:
because someone who is starting off or has been out of the game for awhile will read this and believe they can put on this incredible amount of mass with a garbage diet, ZERO plans for any pct whatsoever and do this in an extreme short period of time. Also with no consequence to their body.

Some will not take the time to read what the proper protocol is for using a RC and will end up being really F'ed up
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LOL, I know, I was using that there internet sarcasm, hard to convey and I failed.

If someone really wants to add that much muscle, they need to add Follidrone 2.0, Anabeta, Triumph, BMP, and Plasmajet to this cycle. Then 30 pound gains should be the expectation. (If OP had said he was using some regular supplements at the beginning of this log instead of MK and LGD, he would have sold so much crap to unsuspecting newbies it would have been unbelievable.)
 
You can gain about a lb a week of solid even on natty if: total newb, stuff yourself with red meat and eggs, and chain yourself to the squat rack....
 
Week 8 progress pictures. Weight 212lbs.

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not too bad
I guess your photoshop imagewritter was broken lmao jk


Your a good sport for rolling with the punches here bro and I salute you for that. Secondly, what ever you took and the amounts with the diet, there is clear proof you did the work here. pics do imo represent a bulk, dirty as it maybe, still size is there and clearly signs of work being done.

good job on the gains bro
 
I cant do this anymore, I quit.

I bet his before pics were from his high school days. :)
 
Hahahahahha. Thanks guys. I feel like a fat dog. Can't wait to shred. I will start another log of ostarine and s4 after my pct which will be more informative.
 
Prepare for landing....

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How does your PCT look?
 
4evafit said:
Hahahahahha. Thanks guys. I feel like a fat dog. Can't wait to shred. I will start another log of ostarine and s4 after my pct which will be more informative.
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if your doing a cut and want to join a contest go here- bunch of guys are cutting now

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good luck bro and will be on which ever log you do
 
smith_69 said:
if your doing a cut and want to join a contest go here- bunch of guys are cutting now

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good luck bro and will be on which ever log you do
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Had a look at the thread. I think 6 weeks is too fast of a cut. I like to cut nice and slow. Need 8-10weeks. I will do a separate log. Thanks man.
 
4evafit said:
Haven't worked it out yet. Open to suggestions.
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PCT:
-Crappy food, stick with it
-OTC Testbooster Supplement "Testicle Blow" made by "NutriNoscam"
-Hot-and cold testicle showers
-small dose superdrol

:wink1:
 
Seriously...

Something like:
Clomid: 100/100/80/60/50

And as bonus "Rebirth"?
 
You are kidding.

LMAO, no WAY!

You Sir are the KING of Trolls!

Bravo!
 
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smith_69 said:
before

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and tomorrow
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All that colostrum makes for killer gains my friend. Can't deny the science.
 
ericos_bob said:
I think he was being serious? You think he needs a SERM for effective pct?
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After 12 weeks (?) of LGD , this is how his nuts probably look like:

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Does he NEED a SERM? No, but recovery will take a lot of time and at the end he'll look like that:

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4evafit said:
Lol. I was being dead serious.
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Nolva/Torem/Clomid - choose your weapon

Maybe OTC "Rebirth" with "Viron" ... but I would go with old school
 
NUTS are fine. I don't feel suppressed. I don't wanna take clomid cause of the depression side effects. I'll have a look into nolva. Why are people taking a low dose of ostarine for pct? Isn't that suppressive ? I will be continuing mk677 all the way through pct
 
Day 71 mk677/ day 62 ldg: still feeling numbness in my fingertips hunger is still up there. I have noticed when I eat I'll have a massive meal and I will be hungry 1 hr later. Seems like it's digesting super fast. I'm getting super painful pumps in the gym on all muscle groups. Cramps are still there. I will be doing a bf % test on Monday to see where I'm at. Will keep you guys updated.
 
4evafit said:
NUTS are fine. I don't feel suppressed. I don't wanna take clomid cause of the depression side effects. I'll have a look into nolva. Why are people taking a low dose of ostarine for pct? Isn't that suppressive ? I will be continuing mk677 all the way through pct
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Not every one got depressed on Clomid. I took up to 200mg/day without feeling girly on it. Nolva is good too.
Taking a low dose of Ostarine may/will hinder recovery.
 
No whiney sides for me on clomid but I only go 50/25/25/12.5
Ostarine will almost definitely shut you down.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Not every one got depressed on Clomid. I took up to 200mg/day without feeling girly on it. Nolva is good too.
Taking a low dose of Ostarine may/will hinder recovery.
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you got depressed after reading his gain train log
 
Just got a Dexa scan done now guys. There was a appointment available.

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Gained 4lbs of lean mass and lost another 0.6% bf. Down to 15.8%
 
Ok guys this pct sound better ?

clomid
60/60/30/30

cardarine
20mg ed for 4 weeks

mk677
25mg ed for 4 weeks

i plan in running a cutting cycle straight after pct of ostarine and s4
 
hairygrandpa said:
After 12 weeks (?) of LGD , this is how his nuts probably look like:

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Does he NEED a SERM? No, but recovery will take a lot of time and at the end he'll look like that:

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Nolva/Torem/Clomid - choose your weapon

Maybe OTC "Rebirth" with "Viron" ... but I would go with old school
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LOL I'd take that as a YES!

BTW 4evafit, that's a great result I can def see the extra muscle mass.:clap2:

Ostarine as PCT makes zero sense to me also being it's suppressive just at higher doses than LGD.
Any reason why people prefer Clomid over Nolva? Just wondering as I'd planned the Nolvadex route for my first cycle.
 
ericos_bob said:
LOL I'd take that as a YES!

BTW 4evafit, that's a great result I can def see the extra muscle mass.:clap2:

Ostarine as PCT makes zero sense to me also being it's suppressive just at higher doses than LGD.
Any reason why people prefer Clomid over Nolva? Just wondering as I'd planned the Nolvadex route for my first cycle.
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Thanks bro. Yeh I don't get it either. Not sure why you would choose clomid over Nolva
 
4evafit said:
Thanks bro. Yeh I don't get it either. Not sure why you would choose clomid over Nolva
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Either one will do. Torem may be the better choice but is relatively new, people tend to hold onto what worked in the past.
Why someone would chose Clomid over Nolva?
Some AAS (19 Nors) like Deca or Tren can induce gyno by progesterone/prolactin and don't get along well with Nolva for some reasons concerning receptors -or what not.
 
4evafit said:
Ok guys this pct sound better ?

clomid
60/60/30/30

cardarine
20mg ed for 4 weeks

mk677
25mg ed for 4 weeks

i plan in running a cutting cycle straight after pct of ostarine and s4
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What's the point of PCT if you are putting suppressive compounds in your body right after you have restored your HPTA?
 
4evafit said:
Ok guys this pct sound better ?

clomid
60/60/30/30

cardarine
20mg ed for 4 weeks

mk677
25mg ed for 4 weeks

i plan in running a cutting cycle straight after pct of ostarine and s4
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Why cardarine in PCT? Normal behavior is NOT to cut during PCT -after a bulk, keep cals high!
Run it with Osta later on.
Your clomid dosage and duration seems low to me.
100/100/80/60/50 is what I would do.

Edit: Normal behavior is: OFF cycle time = ON cycle time + PCT (But you wouldn't be the first giving a sh1t. :) )
None the less, I would do a 5 week PCT, get bloods, wait 3-4 more weeks and then jump on a cutting cycle
 
hairygrandpa said:
Why cardarine in PCT? Normal behavior is NOT to cut during PCT -after a bulk, keep cals high!
Run it with Osta later on.
Your clomid dosage and duration seems low to me.
100/100/80/60/50 is what I would do.

Edit: Normal behavior is: OFF cycle time = ON cycle time + PCT (But you wouldn't be the first giving a sh1t. :) )
None the less, I would do a 5 week PCT, get bloods, wait 3-4 more weeks and then jump on a cutting cycle
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I know that is what you would do, but it is awfully overkill. 25mg for two weeks and 12.5mg for two weeks is much more appropriate.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
I know that is what you would do, but it is awfully overkill. 25mg for two weeks and 12.5mg for two weeks is much more appropriate.
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Overall consensus is that Clomid should be run way higher than nolva.
On the other hand, half life of Clomid is long and could, as you said be cut to even 3 weeks of use.
 
4evafit said:
Thanks bro. Yeh I don't get it either. Not sure why you would choose clomid over Nolva
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I personally think Nolva is normally better in most cases, but most people go to clomid because it's what all their bro's do. Everyone who gives advice has used clomid, it works, and they know it - so it self perpetuates. Plus some people think it is better at actually restarting the HPTA...but I'm not so sure of that.

hairygrandpa said:
Either one will do. Torem may be the better choice but is relatively new, people tend to hold onto what worked in the past.
Why someone would chose Clomid over Nolva?
Some AAS (19 Nors) like Deca or Tren can induce gyno by progesterone/prolactin and don't get along well with Nolva for some reasons concerning receptors -or what not.
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This. And as you can see, Torem is maybe better than both, but fewer people know it than who know Nolva or Clomid, so those two are still self perpetuating. 90% of the people giving advice on the internet who have actually used this stuff will have used Nolva or Clomid but never tried Torem, so of course they're going to recommend what they know.
 
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