Anavar vs Ostarine??

drejb

drejb

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Hey guys,

I am a bit of a noob to the topic compared to most on this forum, but I've noticed lately my gains haven't been the best. Ive been lifting since I was 14. The only thing close to anabolics I have come to was a experimental M1T cycle for 2 weeks at 19yo and stopped immediately once I realized how stupid it was to mess with hormones at that age. I'm now

27, 195 about 17%bf. Been as heavy as 240lb and as lean as 8% bf. I gain muscle and get in shape pretty quickly but haven't been as of late.

A friend of mine just came off 8 weeks at a 40mg a day cycle of Var and saw pretty great results (also a aas noob). Nothing mind blowing. But leaned out just the right amount while maintaining some good mass. (This is essentially my goal)


I've been thinking of going this anavar route strictly because I haven't really dabbled with anabolics before and it will allow me to dip into it a little.


I have also researched Ostarine. My only issue is that it is a fairly new drug vs Var which has been around for decades. Is anyone aware of any potential long term side effects from SARMS or Ostarine in particular?


Which route would you recommend. I know a lot of you will say niether and to just pin. But go easy on me haha

Cheers
 
It will also be a big help if you can recommend anything other than these 2 products. Anything oral (sarm, AAS, PH) that will give me some decent results with little to no shut down (in a perfect world).

Any advice would be great!
 
I have a good friend who is a pro bodybuilder. His experience with designer steroids and prohormones is limited, but he did try Methyldiazirinol (Triumphalis) and he told me this is "very, very close to Anavar". Now, I've never tried Anavar, but I used both Ostarine and Triumph, and it's not even close. Methyldiazirinol is much stronger and its effects more pronounced, good and bad. For me, Ostarine does not feel like much at all, but it does work - it preserves your muscle mass when you're cutting. Simple as that. If it wasn't for the strange sensation I sometimes get in my pecs, I would not notice Ostarine at all.

So, basically, you're not going to gain much on Ostarine at all. I'd say use on a cut or don't use at all. Anavar is solid and proven, and running it solo (without any previous experience with anabolics) will produce some lean mass that's easy to keep. And IIRC, it's very expensive too.
 
Var is pretty weak, especially since most stuff out there is take anyway. I would opt with something other than var or ostarine. If you can get var, you can get tbol. Run tbol.
 
warbird01 said:
Var is pretty weak, especially since most stuff out there is take anyway. I would opt with something other than var or ostarine. If you can get var, you can get tbol. Run tbol.
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It'll be my first cycle of anything. I'd like something that won't completely shut me down, and will give me dry gains (even if they aren't crazy drastic). Was looking into Andros
 
drejb said:
It'll be my first cycle of anything. I'd like something that won't completely shut me down, and will give me dry gains (even if they aren't crazy drastic). Was looking into Andros
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Anything worth running is going to shut you down. Might as well run a worthwhile cycle IMO.
 
warbird01 said:
Anything worth running is going to shut you down. Might as well run a worthwhile cycle IMO.
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Yeah this is true I read these types of comments a lot. I feel like it'll be easier to recover from something like Var or a SARM. Or some of the Andros out there. I'm only looking to drop maybe 2-4% BF and maintain some mass.
 
drejb said:
Yeah this is true I read these types of comments a lot. I feel like it'll be easier to recover from something like Var or a SARM. Or some of the Andros out there. I'm only looking to drop maybe 2-4% BF and maintain some mass.
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Recovery from var wont be any easier then t bol and everyone is different. Some ppl run osta and get shut down 100%. If your gonna run a cycle pick one worth running.
 
Smont said:
Recovery from var wont be any easier then t bol and everyone is different. Some ppl run osta and get shut down 100%. If your gonna run a cycle pick one worth running.
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THANK YOU. I don't understand it if you don't want suppression dont cycle, just properly PCT after every cycle and use proper supports and you can reach your goals both safely and effectively.
 
Smont said:
Recovery from var wont be any easier then t bol and everyone is different. Some ppl run osta and get shut down 100%. If your gonna run a cycle pick one worth running.
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Everyone I know that has done var only cycles has fully recovered without PCT. in a month or two. Blood tests and all. I'm talking 40mg here for some better pumps and subtle gains. Not 100mg a day to try and blow up. If I wanted to look like Arnold I'd probably start pinning lol.

I do appreciate the response tho, I feel like a lot of people don't want to chime in because var only gets such a bad rep. But I have seen it work, maybe not in ways others would want
 
Any1 can recover from any cycle without pct but you have no way to know how long it will take. How much gains you will keep or how long you might not get laid for
 
Smont said:
Any1 can recover from any cycle without pct but you have no way to know how long it will take. How much gains you will keep or how long you might not get laid for
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This is true. How much more toxic is Tbol vs Var?
 
And at this point you made it clear that you dont really want advice, yiu just want someone to agree
 
Smont said:
If you wanna run var its fine. But youl get way more from tbol
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I'll look into it. Thanks. Not necessarily disagreeing with anyone. I'm just clarifying my goals. I feel like a lot of people are overestimating the results I want to see from this.
 
You seem deadset on it anyways completely ignoring what we're saying.. everything we've said you've countered with either a broscience anecdote or a "well my dosage will be low" Okay... So lets think logically would we rather suppress ourselves and make subpar results.. or would we rather do things correctly and just take proper pre-cautions to get ACTUAL results. I don't understand the half assed mentality some people come here with, im not saying half assed in terms of work ethic but more so.. if you're going to do it then do it right... Most people here have NO hidden agenda and just genuinely want to advice people how to cycle safely. We're just trying to help. Anavar 8 weeks 50mg never gets a bad rep because it's a good solid cycle. Real Var will yield real results. Just don't half ass the cycle, because no matter what you'll be suppressed so there's no logical reason not to go all out on it..
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
You seem deadset on it anyways completely ignoring what we're saying.. everything we've said you've countered with either a broscience anecdote or a "well my dosage will be low" Okay... So lets think logically would we rather suppress ourselves and make subpar results.. or would we rather do things correctly and just take proper pre-cautions to get ACTUAL results. I don't understand the half assed mentality some people come here with, im not saying half assed in terms of work ethic but more so.. if you're going to do it then do it right... Most people here have NO hidden agenda and just genuinely want to advice people how to cycle safely. We're just trying to help. Anavar 8 weeks 50mg never gets a bad rep because it's a good solid cycle. Real Var will yield real results. Just don't half ass the cycle, because no matter what you'll be suppressed so there's no logical reason not to go all out on it..
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This is a fair response. I may be ignorant to the effects of Tbol or other orals because all I've heard is horror stories and keep hearing that anavar is a cleaner option in most aspects. I will do some more research based on the advice I've been getting in here. Appreciate the direction
 
drejb said:
This is a fair response. I may be ignorant to the effects of Tbol or other orals because all I've heard is horror stories and keep hearing that anavar is a cleaner option in most aspects. I will do some more research based on the advice I've been getting in here. Appreciate the direction
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Wasn't trying to be a dick just trying to get the point across, I'm glad that rather than getting offended you took the advice, many don't and that's why if you do go further down this road and use this logic you'll be much better off. Good luck dude.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Wasn't trying to be a dick just trying to get the point across, I'm glad that rather than getting offended you took the advice, many don't and that's why if you do go further down this road and use this logic you'll be much better off. Good luck dude.
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Thanks man. Wasn't thinking you were a dick, I appreciate feedback weather it's positive or constructive. Growth my friend. Appreciate it. I'll try to keep everyone posted!

Cheers
 
drejb said:
Thanks man. Wasn't thinking you were a dick, I appreciate feedback weather it's positive or constructive. Growth my friend. Appreciate it. I'll try to keep everyone posted!

Cheers
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Good for you man, levelheaded person who can definitely progress with proper AA's use, i'd also like to echo what Smont said, although i've yet to try T-bol (I really fu-cking want to) I hear it's amazing for lean keepable gains up to 10-15 pounds in 4-5 weeks making it a very nice option for mass, however since you want to cut up and gain a mild amount of mass, Anavar/winny would be awesome.
 
drejb said:
Everyone I know that has done var only cycles has fully recovered without PCT. in a month or two. Blood tests and all. I'm talking 40mg here for some better pumps and subtle gains. Not 100mg a day to try and blow up. If I wanted to look like Arnold I'd probably start pinning lol.

I do appreciate the response tho, I feel like a lot of people don't want to chime in because var only gets such a bad rep. But I have seen it work, maybe not in ways others would want
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Genuinely interested in this. So you know people that are responsible enough to get blood work but don't run a PCT? Sounds very strange to me...

If they are getting blood work it must mean that they are at least somewhat concerned about getting shut down...so why not just run a PCT to be safe?

Also, you won't look like arnold even if you pinned every AAS in the world. It doesn't exactly work that way lol
 
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