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ax1 said:
EPI is liberal biased Washington "Think Tank" financed by labor unions and other special interests.

I dont have an opinion about STAT or the BMJ they reference, but here is an idea....get better and more competitive, support freedom and liberty and give yourselves and opportunity to get better without government in the way....they when black doctors earn more than white doctors, and whites call out for unfairness we can do this all over again and call out stereotypes and create more racial wars.
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And your quoted sources are credible :rolls eyes:. All you spout off about is Alex Jones and pseudo-intellectual conspiracy theories :D
 
ax1 said:
He is a idiot and not a Libertarian. Anyways I dont think that is a big deal to memorize every city in every foreign country.
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It's kinda a big deal when you want to be President of a nation who is negotiating with Russia, and where US troops have actually been on the ground. WTF?

Are you serious?!
 
Misfit28 said:
And your quoted sources are credible :rolls eyes:. All you spout off about is Alex Jones and pseudo-intellectual conspiracy theories :D
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Blame me, not him. Anyways you cant hide from the truth behind the "conspiracy tin foil" curtain around here.
 
Misfit28 said:
It's kinda a big deal when you want to be President of a nation who is negotiating with Russia, and where US troops have actually been on the ground. WTF?

Are you serious?!
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Where your asked thousands of questions in a several month period, all you have to do is wait out the stump the numnut game and say "hey...I got you I got you" now the world will know!!! Its all nonsense. How about Hillary coughing to death again at the labor day rally and blaming an allergic reaction to Dump or Dump having another bad hair day and needing to wear a baseball cap again?
 
Misfit28 said:
Observations, LOL. More like judgements. Observations are meant to be value-free. Your "observations" are quite disgusting.

Limited ability, LOL. You seem to be the one who can't see past your own old-fashioned racist and sexist viewpoints.
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i edited my post to include;

Every observation I made is applicable to every race including whites. The value and moral and integrity you live by creates your quality or inequality. You reap what you sew.

Do all the new fashion males come with a vagina?
 
ax1 said:
Where your asked thousands of questions in a several month period, all you have to do is wait out the stump the numnut game and say "hey...I got you I got you" now the world will know!!! Its all nonsense. How about Hillary coughing to death again at the labor day rally and blaming an allergic reaction to Dump or Dump having another bad hair day and needing to wear a baseball cap again?
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Dude! The Syrian Civil War is ongoing as we speak, and Russia is heavily involved. It's important for wanna-be Presidents to know about things like that.

I mean, we all know he's not going to win, so there is that ;)
 
Misfit28 said:
Dude! The Syrian Civil War is ongoing as we speak, and Russia is heavily involved. It's important for wanna-be Presidents to know about things like that.

I mean, we all know he's not going to win, so there is that ;)
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We don't need to negotiate with Russia. We don't need to be there. We don't need to have anything to do with it.
 
Misfit28 said:
We may not NEED to be , but WE ARE. Big difference.
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What difference does it make?

Once your president you just say end the global empire, wherever the f they are bring our troops home and save our own country.
 
David Dunn said:
i edited my post to include;

Every observation I made is applicable to every race including whites. The value and moral and integrity you live by creates your quality or inequality. You reap what you sew.

Do all the new fashion males come with a vagina?
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I'm only 10 years younger than you. I'm just more open-minded and educated :)

Ad hominem is the word of the day :D Does it make you feel good to try to feminize men to seem superior? I knew you were sexist as well.
 
Misfit28 said:
So simple, huh?
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Yes...THAT simple. The old book of tricks brainwashed people that things are complicated....stall stall stall just like lord ObAma ended the afghan war AFTER he leaves office ROFL!
 
ax1 said:
We are in a lot of places even you don't know about.
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I'm sure we are. I mean, you do realize that the American economy is tied to the world economy? Globalization is here, and there's nothing we can do about it. At this point, isolationism can do nothing but devastate our economy.
 
Misfit28 said:
I'm sure we are. I mean, you do realize that the American economy is tied to the world economy? Globalization is here, and there's nothing we can do about it. At this point, isolationism can do nothing but devastate our economy.
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I'm not an isolationist, that's Libtard propaganda. Libertarian ideology is far FAR more open dealing with other countries than your ideology. You vote goes to destroying other nations, the destruction of the soverignty of our country, the destruction of our democracy, peace and global security.

You are the isolationist.
 
Misfit28 said:
I'm only 10 years younger than you. I'm just more open-minded and educated :)

Ad hominem is the word of the day :D Does it make you feel good to try to feminize men to seem superior? I knew you were sexist as well.
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Does open minded mean you also are blind to reality or does education cause that? I don't know what world you grew up in but my observations are pretty accurate.

How does stating them also place judgement?

I observe you tendered $1 and the cost for service is $10. There is inequality in this formula and what you tendered does not afford you the opportunity to experience the services that are valued at $10. Your $1 is a wonderful $1 but my observation is that it does not equate to the cost of the services.

I must then hold some prejudice against that $1 and I have place judgement on it?

I am sexist now too. I wanted to call you a Pussey. I'm not looking to demasculize or feminize you in any way. You're probably a very masculine Pussey if you were one - but I'm not calling you a Pussey.

You're funny too. I cant detrrmine if it's the open mind or the education.

Thanks!
 
It's all in the presentation, my man. Your observations have value added to them simply by your choice of words.

You're pretty funny too, not sure if it's the close mindedness or the lack of education.
 
Misfit28 said:
Globalization is here, and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Ill tell you right now, "Globalization" will be destroyed. Your version, the mainstream corporate funded big bank Obama backed NWO globalization that is. People are waking up and the conspiracy curtain is being burned to the ground. Thats why people like Trump (not an endorsement from me) have done so well.
 
ax1 said:
Ill tell you right now, "Globalization" will be destroyed. Your version, the mainstream corporate funded big bank Obama backed NWO globalization that is. People are waking up and the conspiracy curtain is being burned to the ground. Thats why people like Trump (not an endorsement from me) have done so well.
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Why is it "my version"?
 
youngandfree said:
Because everyone has an attention span of a gnat and then the next crisis comes to divert the public's attention. Whether or not there will be any criminal charges to come about, it needs to be timed so that there isn't a long period between release of the bombshell and election day.

I hope that NY attorney that's investigating the Clinton crime foundation brings charges along that front since the FBI refuses to uphold their oath and do it.

Remember Martha Stewart went to federal prison for lying to federal investigators.
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Yep, Trump relies on the attention span as well. He repeatedly lies about things that he has said in the past, of which there is audio and/or video evidence.
 
I'm so disappointed in Gary Johnson right now Just saw that he had no idea what Aleppo is when asked in an interview. Not to mention, the guy comes across as super creepy. Ugh... He was my one last hope. I thought the Libertarian party would have a chance to catch on much stronger this year, but they've shot themselves in the foot.
 
David Dunn said:
Pragmatism > Idealism
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Pragmatism is a rejection of Idealism.

You sound like a politician now. So you believe the rejection of moral principles is superior in what way? Without Idealism, which would be the adoption of moral principles (even if negative consequences on our lives are a result, you would have no way to determine practicality.

What you just said is a false dichotomy. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

Isn't religion idealistic in nature?
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm so disappointed in Gary Johnson right now Just saw that he had no idea what Aleppo is when asked in an interview. Not to mention, the guy comes across as super creepy. Ugh... He was my one last hope. I thought the Libertarian party would have a chance to catch on much stronger this year, but they've shot themselves in the foot.
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I was more pissed off when he accused people like me of being a racist just for using the term "illegal immigrant."

He is not a real libertarian. I agree he is creepy, and he has no leadership charisma.
 
ax1 said:
I was more pissed off when he accused people like me of being a racist just for using the term "illegal immigrant."

He is not a real libertarian. I agree he is creepy, and he has no leadership charisma.
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I missed that. It was at a Libertarian townhall right? I'm so discouraged with all of our options now. It's pretty shameful for America.
 
ax1 said:
Ill tell you right now, "Globalization" will be destroyed. Your version, the mainstream corporate funded big bank Obama backed NWO globalization that is. People are waking up and the conspiracy curtain is being burned to the ground. Thats why people like Trump (not an endorsement from me) have done so well.
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No, the reason Trump has done so well is the angry, white, uneducated males that see their hold on the electorate disappearing.
 
Misfit28 said:
No, the reason Trump has done so well is the angry, white, uneducated males that see their hold on the electorate disappearing.
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Or it's people so sick of "politicians" and the status quo that they like the idea of a Trump (not a politician, not "part of the system," not PC), and that idea is more important to many people than what he actually stands for. Not everything is so black and white and/or racially motivated.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Or it's people so sick of "politicians" and the status quo that they like the idea of a Trump (not a politician, not "part of the system," not PC), and that idea is more important to many people than what he actually stands for. Not everything is so black and white and/or racially motivated.
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Like Trump isn't a "politician", LOL. He's playing the game just like all the others now. Hiring KellyAnne (sp?) Conway is proof of that.

However, I can certainly see people being fooled by his act.

Given Trump's track record, it's pretty hard for me to believe it isn't a "black and white" issue.
 
Misfit28 said:
Like Trump isn't a "politician", LOL. He's playing the game just like all the others now. Hiring KellyAnne (sp?) Conway is proof of that.

However, I can certainly see people being fooled by his act.

Given Trump's track record, it's pretty hard for me to believe it isn't a "black and white" issue.
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So the black people who support Trump, or at least prefer him to Hillary, are racist?

Many people view him as "change" and Hillary as "status quo."
 
muscleupcrohn said:
So the black people who support Trump, or at least prefer him to Hillary, are racist?

Many people view him as "change" and Hillary as "status quo."
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You mean the less than ten percent of black people nationally?

I wouldn't call them racist, no.

Btw, you brought up racism only because I mentioned angry, uneducated white males? It's simply stating a fact, IMO.
 
Misfit28 said:
You mean the less than ten percent of black people nationally?

I wouldn't call them racist, no.

Btw, you brought up racism only because I mentioned angry, uneducated white males? It's simply stating a fact, IMO.
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What I'm saying is Trumps popularity is due to more than white people being angry that they are, as you say, losing their hold on the electorate." Yes, most of Trump supporters are white, and a lot of them are angry, but they're also sick of "politicians" and the status quo of government. I don't see how you could disagree with this; many people see Trump as a departure from your Bushs and Clintons and Obama.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
What I'm saying is Trumps popularity is due to more than white people being angry that they are, as you say, losing their hold on the electorate." Yes, most of Trump supporters are white, and a lot of them are angry, but they're also sick of "politicians" and the status quo of government. I don't see how you could disagree with this; many people see Trump as a departure from your Bushs and Clintons and Obama.
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I don't disagree with that. I just think they are sorely misguided.

However, Clinton isn't a good choice either, LOL.
 
Meanwhile, Trump just announced an expansion of the military.

While this illustrates his hawkishness, or also illustrates how little he really knows. He wants to expand the number of fighter jets to 1,200, Even though there are already almost 2,000, LOL.

There was a law passed that requires at least 1,900 fighters......
 
Misfit28 said:
No, the reason Trump has done so well is the angry, white, uneducated males that see their hold on the electorate disappearing.
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That is a very racist statement. Why you criticize people on here then make racist remarks yourself?
 
Misfit28 said:
I don't disagree with that. I just think they are sorely misguided.

However, Clinton isn't a good choice either, LOL.
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You voted for Obama for a second term...be an example first then talk.

Your name is Mr. Misfguided.

Still voting for Hitlery btw?
 
Misfit28 said:
Meanwhile, Trump just announced an expansion of the military.

While this illustrates his hawkishness, or also illustrates how little he really knows. He wants to expand the number of fighter jets to 1,200, Even though there are already almost 2,000, LOL.

There was a law passed that requires at least 1,900 fighters......
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I got issues with this too.
 
ax1 said:
You voted for Obama for a second term...be an example first then talk.

Your name is Mr. Misfguided.

Still voting for Hitlery btw?
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Nah. You don't know my real name :)

I'll talk however and whenever I wish, according to the 1st Amendment :)
 
ax1 said:
That is a very racist statement. Why you criticize people on here then make racist remarks yourself?
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It's a racist statement to say that the majority of Trump's supporters are white? C'mon, man...... You're better than that, aren't you?
 
Misfit, I agree with you on a lot of your comments on the equality topics that come up in here, but you do seem to be very hypocritical in defending blacks and then going and saying the same thing about whites and thinking its totally fine or "stating facts". But when someone states ACTUAL FACTS about a certain sample of the African American population (eg: "5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black."), in your eyes they are being a racist bigot.

Source for that statistic: Invalid Link Removed

Edit: and don't think of this as me coming at you or anything like that (just wanna put it out there since its through text which is difficult to tell tone or convey your emotion through...or incase you're cycling again ). Im simply stating an objective observation I have made while keeping up with the thread.
 
Misfit28 said:
It's a racist statement to say that the majority of Trump's supporters are white? C'mon, man...... You're better than that, aren't you?
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Your labeling Trump supporters as sorely misguided angry white uneducated voters.

I 1000% guarantee you if I or anyone here said Obama and Hitlery supporters are sorely misguided angry black uneducated voters you will be the first one to pull out the kkk race card.
 
Misfit28 said:
It's a racist statement to say that the majority of Trump's supporters are white? C'mon, man...... You're better than that, aren't you?
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Also, it seems all you ever focus on is race race race. I mean wtf difference does it make what the color of ones skin is? How about a vote is a vote, f' minorities....if your here legally, respect English as the primary language we are all here one and the same, Americans.
 
ax1 said:
Also, it seems all you ever focus on is race race race. I mean wtf difference does it make what the color of ones skin is? How about a vote is a vote, f' minorities....if your here legally, respect English as the primary language we are all here one and the same, Americans.
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I think "race" is actually a social construct, and doesn't actually have a definitive biological basis.

However, you deny that the color of people's skin hasn't been a basis for discrimination over time? You think that sort of discrimination and the repercussions thereof have just disappeared?

The only reason I "seem" to focus on race is the crap that pours out of some people's mouths in this thread.

I suppose the thing I just posted about the military was race related, since I "always" post about race?

For ****s sake, I'm an Anthropologist. We have entire classes based on race, class and gender and how they affect social institutions and public policy.

If you don't think perceived "racial" differences have affected institutional and public policy over time, you are blind. :)
 
Misfit28 said:
It's a racist statement to say that the majority of Trump's supporters are white? C'mon, man...... You're better than that, aren't you?
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No, but saying that these white Trump supporters only support him because, as you put it, they "see their hold on the electorate disappearing" at best fails to address all potential reasons people would support Trump in this election, and at worst labels all white Trump supporters as racist.
 
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