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Phosphatidic Vs Arachidonic

Soy lecithin granules as a $7 month supply of 1200mg of Phosphatidic Acid, among other beneficial phospholipids. It's so cheap that you can throw your ArA in also and run both. Also, the PA acts as an emulsifier for the ArA
 
jathan_howe said:
Soy lecithin granules as a $7 month supply of 1200mg of Phosphatidic Acid, among other beneficial phospholipids. It's so cheap that you can throw your ArA in also and run both. Also, the PA acts as an emulsifier for the ArA
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interesting. I like x-factor not advanced as much just the Original. Itts pretty good. I used phosphamuscle and plasma muscle. And had some great workouts while using those products. But want to give the granules a go instead
 
jaredmus said:
interesting. I like x-factor not advanced as much just the Original. Itts pretty good. I used phosphamuscle and plasma muscle. And had some great workouts while using those products. But want to give the granules a go instead
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Most PA products are 750mg and don't emulsify ArA.
Soy lecithin granules are almost double the PA dose as specialized PA products, loaded with other phospholipids, emulsifier ArA, and is only $7-$10 a month
 
jathan_howe said:
Most PA products are 750mg and don't emulsify ArA.
Soy lecithin granules are almost double the PA dose as specialized PA products, loaded with other phospholipids, emulsifier ArA, and is only $7-$10 a month
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Boom. You need the actual SoyL if you want the emulsification properties...and considering how inexpensive granules are, there's no reason not to run both!

Since you asked for other suggestions, I'd say that if you want to take it to the next level for an extra ~$20, I'd go Tr1umph + Xgels. Very popular stack and with good reason: You get a hefty dose of SoyL and 15 other anabolic aids. Tr1umph + ArA = gainz city.
 
Driven2lift said:
PA on value, ARA for faster results IMO
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Sums it up. Honestly for how cheap PA can be had for, I would use it alongside whatever other anabolic aid you like, be it Ara or something else
 
Driven2lift said:
PA on value, ARA for faster results IMO
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I am with this. PA worked great on strength, but I found those gains did not continue with the time I had in. ARA seemed to continue.
 
cheftepesh1 said:
I am with this. PA worked great on strength, but I found those gains did not continue with the time I had in. ARA seemed to continue.
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Third this. I normally run them together anyway though so it's a win win.
 
Lynks8 said:
Boom. You need the actual SoyL if you want the emulsification properties...and considering how inexpensive granules are, there's no reason not to run both!

Since you asked for other suggestions, I'd say that if you want to take it to the next level for an extra ~$20, I'd go Tr1umph + Xgels. Very popular stack and with good reason: You get a hefty dose of SoyL and 15 other anabolic aids. Tr1umph + ArA = gainz city.
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always see it on sale at nutriverse may need to give it a go
 
I'll side with PA.

You can get it dirt cheap and a lot of people notice significant rise in hunger which would naturally be great for bulking.
 
Sorry to hijack thread but I just read another am thread where someone was dosing X-gels mid workout. X-gels should be taken fasted , so would a mid workout dose be beneficial if a meal was 1.5 hours pre workout?
I am currently using tr1umph and ready to open my bottle of X-gels!
 
Think it needs to be said that the SL Granules will add xtra calories to your daily intake. 8g of fat can cause issues for some
 
Just picked up a tub of Fearn lecithin granules and using it on my lean bulk.

Anyone have an "optimal" time to consume it? Specifically, any benefit to consuming it pre workout and how long before?
 
Robert5891 said:
Just picked up a tub of Fearn lecithin granules and using it on my lean bulk.

Anyone have an "optimal" time to consume it? Specifically, any benefit to consuming it pre workout and how long before?
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I think it had some benefit of being dosed around an hour pre workout but can't remember what
 
Run both!

X gels on their own are IMO better than lecithin but they are both great products, and lecithin is cheap as hell.
 
jathan_howe said:
Soy lecithin granules as a $7 month supply of 1200mg of Phosphatidic Acid, among other beneficial phospholipids. It's so cheap that you can throw your ArA in also and run both. Also, the PA acts as an emulsifier for the ArA
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Not necessarily 1200mg @ 7$ a month, but this is just nitpicking (the range is 4-7%). It's still great for how much it costs. It's a no brainer if you can stand the taste (I got tired of it after awhile)
 
I was getting a PA I ran into this, is it good?

Life Extension, Lecithin, 16 oz (454 g)

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619sss said:
6%? Idk
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That puts the PA content in the ball park of a little less than 1200mg, on average. Plus you get extra fats, so more calories. Plus you get phosphatidylcholine (cognitive benefits), phosphatidylserine (lowers cortisol), and many other beneficial phospholipids
 
Tylerclee said:
Sorry to hijack thread but I just read another am thread where someone was dosing X-gels mid workout. X-gels should be taken fasted , so would a mid workout dose be beneficial if a meal was 1.5 hours pre workout?
I am currently using tr1umph and ready to open my bottle of X-gels!
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UP!
 
machinehead said:
It does not.
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Yep. Soy Lecithin is comprised primarily of phospholipids, phosphoric acid and fatty acids. No isoflavones/phytoestrogens. No need to worry about gyno or prolactin, which wouldn't be an issue with soy anyway. The fear of estrogen with soy is vastly overblown.
 
Do you know much about the dose of sunflower Lecithin - I have a tub at home that I have never used. Not sure if it is different or not?
 
M.I.D said:
Do you know much about the dose of sunflower Lecithin - I have a tub at home that I have never used. Not sure if it is different or not?
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It is roughly the same as soy. I like sunflower much better though for lack of GI sides.
 
I just picked up 2 tubs to stack with Xgels ..might possible stack with epiQ as well for extra since i have 3 bottles laying around.

Dear Nov. come soon :)
 
GQNemesis said:
I just picked up 2 tubs to stack with Xgels ..might possible stack with epiQ as well for extra since i have 3 bottles laying around.

Dear Nov. come soon :)
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Hell yeah, bomb stack!
 
Quick question are the benefits from PA more acute or is saturation needed to see the full effects of the supplement. Right now, I'm just consuming it about 1-1.5 hours pre workout. Off days (Thurs & Sun), not consuming it
 
Ok ivecreadcthe thread...just a question..i just ran 2bottles of xfactor..2tbs of hearns with 1.25g of ara...good results. Should u continue taking the granules. If so the same 2tbs preworkout?
 
beastmode1981 said:
Ok ivecreadcthe thread...just a question..i just ran 2bottles of xfactor..2tbs of hearns with 1.25g of ara...good results. Should u continue taking the granules. If so the same 2tbs preworkout?
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Might as well. Inexpensive and good addition.
 
faytrain1 said:
So do the now foods soft gels not contain much pa?
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From what I've seen, they likely don't. I would email NOW and see what they have to say.

Robert5891 said:
Quick question are the benefits from PA more acute or is saturation needed to see the full effects of the supplement. Right now, I'm just consuming it about 1-1.5 hours pre workout. Off days (Thurs & Sun), not consuming it
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The effects appear to be primarily acute, but the overall benefit comes from the continuous repetition of these effects. So while PA doesn't appear to work primarily through saturation, (like say, creatine), stimulating mTOR on off days is still probably a good idea.
 
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