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Dianabol

AnthG82

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Input please boys and girls

DBol cycle

5 weeks oral only

Week 1 - 30mg (2 Tabs am 1 Tab pm)
Week 2 - 40mg (2 tabs am 2 tabs pm)
Week 3 - as above
Week 4 - as above
Week 5 - as above

Liver support during cycle
Blood pressure support during cycle

Have tamoxifen on hard during course in case gyno issues?

Nolvadex 20mg for 4 weeks

Supps

BCCA
Omega 369
Multivits
Tourine
Liver support
Blood pressure support
Whey protein

My stats
6ft
85KG weight
BF 15%

My aims - to reduce BF while increase some lean muscle. Only worry here is developing breasts. ! Which I don't want to do lol
 
Comon bro, Dont ever fo a dbal only cycle... Why???!?!?!!!

Hmm I've researched lots in relation to dbal only cycles and ran at the dose I suggest with a split and the results are great. Why would you suggest against that, and what would you suggest instead of that.
 
Need some test with that bro.
 
Only orals I would consider doing without test would be primobolan & anavar. Dbol, not a chance without testosterone.
 
Only orals I would consider doing without test would be primobolan & anavar. Dbol, not a chance without testosterone.

A mild ph for 6 to 8 weeks is solid if you don't want to pin but dbol is definitely a no go. Blow up and then shrink lol
 
Dbol is like an excellent chewable preworkout in my opinion. I really need to start doing blasts with orals after I finish cutting.
 
Dbol is like an excellent chewable preworkout in my opinion. I really need to start doing blasts with orals after I finish cutting.

I just got into some anadrol myself :)
 
I need to run a cycle of a bombs... Never have. Several buddies have, all are monsters.

I'm not even a week in but making some nice gains. Pumps are ridiculous!
 
Man, I am jealous... Lol here I sit on a keto based xutting diet researching T2 on a measly 250mgs of cypionate a week.

Test, tren, Anadrol, and about 4500 calories ed. I'm just a little dude, always on a bulk. Getting close to doubling my starting weight so that's the goal.
 
Are you running any caber or are you not prone to prolactin sides?

Was running .25mg e4d but libido got way out of hand. I dropped it but still not having any prolactin sides. If they come up I have plenty more caber.
 
Was running .25mg e4d but libido got way out of hand. I dropped it but still not having any prolactin sides. If they come up I have plenty more caber.
Nice, I think I may just run dbol as I have adex, but I don't have caber on hand and don't wanna hunt.
 
Tbol is a much better option imo. Why run dbol and gain a bunch of excess water that you will end up losing after the cycle when you can make lean dry gains on tbol and keep most of them afterwards?
 
You really should not have to worry about nipple issues on that cycle at all. I don't even think I'd run a serm or AI with that..
 
Dbol = methyl estrogen = possible estrogen sides
 
Kind of lucky that Dbol isn't that weak of an androgen however. That reduces chances of problems again. However Methylestro is something not everyone can deal with.
 
I have to disagree... Run an AI and some test. Better safe than sorry

You really don't need test with dbol anymore than you do with msten, superdrol etc. that theory comes from the fact that if you are buying dbol which is illegal, you can damn well buy test to. If you can source one, you can source both.

I do agree though, I personally would never run it without a base of test or eq depending on what I'm doing but some people just can't or won't pin.

It is not smart to run AIs if not needed. That is NEVER a good idea. If you need it, that is one thing, always have it on hand. It is not hard to tell when it's needed and when it's not. A legit pharma AI will resolve sensitive nipples in a day or two if started at the first signs but if you can get away without it, that is most optimal. The less hormones your exogenously augment, the better.
 
Kind of lucky that Dbol isn't that weak of an androgen however. That reduces chances of problems again. However Methylestro is something not everyone can deal with.

Can you elaborate a little on your point to help me understand please
 
Main reason of estrogen related problems is the androgen to estrogen ratio. If you have more or stronger androgens in your system there can be more estrogen without problems being caused. Since Dbol is not weak of an androgen the presence of elevated estrogen levels is less of a concern than with weaker androgens.

Since Methylestrogen is a really strong estrogen however there is still a good chance of problems and Methylestrogen is way more powerful than regular Estrogen and can be difficult to deal with.
 
Main reason of estrogen related problems is the androgen to estrogen ratio. If you have more or stronger androgens in your system there can be more estrogen without problems being caused. Since Dbol is not weak of an androgen the presence of elevated estrogen levels is less of a concern than with weaker androgens.

Since Methylestrogen is a really strong estrogen however there is still a good chance of problems and Methylestrogen is way more powerful than regular Estrogen and can be difficult to deal with.

Ok thanks for this, when you suggest the oestrogen can be difficult to deal with what do you mean, and what could be done to combat this?
 
Fact remains right now I do not wish to pin, so oral is what I have, 100 10mg British dragon dbol to be precise. If I take this for 4 weeks on a low dose am I at high risk of oestrogen issues? And will tamoxifen and clomid be enough to mitigate the risk.
 
Ok thanks for this, when you suggest the oestrogen can be difficult to deal with what do you mean, and what could be done to combat this?
Heavy bloat, gyno, unstable moods. The typical side effects.
Aromatase Inhibitors are the way to go in the case of Dbol.
The other possible ways are SERMs and administration of stong androgens that do not aromatize (DHT, MethylDHT, Halotestin -but that is pretty harsh).
 
Dude your gonna blow up full of water then your gonna lose it all and this stuff is suppressive as hell. Running it solo will leave you feeling like **** with low natural testosterone and very likely high estrogen. Your limp dick will need all the help in the world after this dbol only cycle.
 
Heavy bloat, gyno, unstable moods. The typical side effects.
Aromatase Inhibitors are the way to go in the case of Dbol.
The other possible ways are SERMs and administration of stong androgens that do not aromatize (DHT, MethylDHT, Halotestin -but that is pretty harsh).

So would you advise against the dbol, and if so what would your thoughts be on a var cycle. 60 tabs at 50mg. With 4 weeks at 100 mg or 8 weeks at 50mg maybe
 
Dude your gonna blow up full of water then your gonna lose it all and this stuff is suppressive as hell. Running it solo will leave you feeling like **** with low natural testosterone and very likely high estrogen. Your limp dick will need all the help in the world after this dbol only cycle.

Thoughts on anavar cycle, 60 tabs at 50mg. Maybe a little over 60 I have some more but 10 mg
 
Fact remains right now I do not wish to pin, so oral is what I have, 100 10mg British dragon dbol to be precise. If I take this for 4 weeks on a low dose am I at high risk of oestrogen issues? And will tamoxifen and clomid be enough to mitigate the risk.
No. You should get yourself Exemestane.

In my opinion you should stack some Epistane, Epiandrosterone or MethylDHT with it if you want to stick with orals.
Dimethandrostenol would be a solid stacker with Dbol as well.
 
Again this is also suppressive contrary to some Internet reports,you will also need test for this imo
 
No. You should get yourself Exemestane.

In my opinion you should stack some Epistane, Epiandrosterone or MethylDHT with it if you want to stick with orals.
Dimethandrostenol would be a solid stacker with Dbol as well.

I will drop the dbol idea for now till I'm ready to add test. You've been a great help thank you for now.
 
Understood. I'm just trying to get some knowledge.
Trying to ruin your body and hormones is wat your trying to do. I did oral only cycle before and it was great - until it ended. Left drained and disconnected from life isn't fun,libido suffered, mood was bad,strength that was gained disappeared within a fortnight. If your not ready to pin then don't do oral only cycle
 
Again this is also suppressive contrary to some Internet reports,you will also need test for this imo
Of course. Dimethandrostenol is suppressive as hell from my experience. But 4 weeks are managebal and Dbol is nothing that causes lethargy but helps with it.
Beeing shutdown for some time is totally normal if you cycle.

Also DHT and MethylDHT work against lethargy as well.
 
Of course. Dimethandrostenol is suppressive as hell from my experience. But 4 weeks are managebal and Dbol is nothing that causes lethargy but helps with it.
Beeing shutdown for some time is totally normal if you cycle.

Also DHT and MethylDHT work against lethargy as well.
Work against your hair aswell lol
 
Trying to ruin your body and hormones is wat your trying to do. I did oral only cycle before and it was great - until it ended. Left drained and disconnected from life isn't fun,libido suffered, mood was bad,strength that was gained disappeared within a fortnight. If your not ready to pin then don't do oral only cycle

And you don't experience such sides from pinning ? Once off cycle.
 
Simply outweighs the negatives. I mean, anavar and test will make you look sharp and shredded as fcuk with little recovery time and you keep most of your gains,anavar or dbol alone you will lose almost all gains and feel crap
 
Simply outweighs the negatives. I mean, anavar and test will make you look sharp and shredded as fcuk with little recovery time and you keep most of your gains,anavar or dbol alone you will lose almost all gains and feel crap

Ok cool, so if I were to drop the idea of an oral cycle and focus on the pin, what would you suggest I research in terms of first injectable cycle I guess a mild one to start would be an idea lol
 
Tons more people more experienced with gear than me but I would do 6 weeks test E 250mg per week then 500mg for last 6 weeks with 50 mg anavar per day with an AI to combat water retention, also keep your sodium intake low. Feel free to ask around and tweak my plan
 
You really don't need test with dbol anymore than you do with msten, superdrol etc. that theory comes from the fact that if you are buying dbol which is illegal, you can damn well buy test to. If you can source one, you can source both.

I do agree though, I personally would never run it without a base of test or eq depending on what I'm doing but some people just can't or won't pin.

It is not smart to run AIs if not needed. That is NEVER a good idea. If you need it, that is one thing, always have it on hand. It is not hard to tell when it's needed and when it's not. A legit pharma AI will resolve sensitive nipples in a day or two if started at the first signs but if you can get away without it, that is most optimal. The less hormones your exogenously augment, the better.

Disagree with almost everything you said. Dbol has a 5 hour half life, you're gains will suffer heavily if you don't run test no matter how you split up the dbol. It'll be next to impossible to retain anything long term without test. Running an AI the entire time will help greatly with water retention, which will help with blood pressure, which will help with heart health. Steroids are a marathon, not a sprint, be good to your heart. Gyno is a lot easier drug wise, lipid wise to prevent than to treat. Heart health again.
 
Tons more people more experienced with gear than me but I would do 6 weeks test E 250mg per week then 500mg for last 6 weeks with 50 mg anavar per day with an AI to combat water retention, also keep your sodium intake low. Feel free to ask around and tweak my plan

Ok thanks. I will fire out a post see where I go.
 
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