Dianabol

Bunshichi said:
Heavy bloat, gyno, unstable moods. The typical side effects.
Aromatase Inhibitors are the way to go in the case of Dbol.
The other possible ways are SERMs and administration of stong androgens that do not aromatize (DHT, MethylDHT, Halotestin -but that is pretty harsh).
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I'm interested in taking dbol as a preworkout a few times a week and will be running it with 100mgs of The1 & 8mgs of LGD... Think I'd be able to get away with not dosing an AI? I'd prob only be taking around 20-30mgs of dbol 3-4 times a week...
 
mmorso said:
I'm interested in taking dbol as a preworkout a few times a week and will be running it with 100mgs of The1 & 8mgs of LGD... Think I'd be able to get away with not dosing an AI? I'd prob only be taking around 20-30mgs of dbol 3-4 times a week...
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Thats likely if you run The 1 everyday. However you absolutely need to have a Pharma AI and SERM on hand. If problems arise you need to be able to deal with them.
 
Going into a run of anabolic aas regardless of dosage will require a pharmaceutical ai and serm that Bunshichi stated,anything less is downright stupid and ignorant to you overall health,but hey if ur into b0obs and tiny balls then go right ahead and leave out the ai and serm
 
Easy brahs....I asked about dosing an AI along with the dbol, wanting to know if I could get away with not dosing an AI. I have nolvadex on hand too, btw, and also have been reading that Nolva is a superior gyno prevention/treatment drug cause it doesn't crash E2 like a suicidal AI does.

I was going to dose Nolva with dbol as soon as I started taking it, but then Bunshichi's mention of dosing strong androgens like methyl-DHT got me thinking...
 
Nolva is powerful against Gyno but it also lowers IGF1 levels and therefore hinders gains as well.
An AI is the drug of choice in case of aromatizing beeing the problem because it works against the cause.

The1 may absolutely be enough to combat the sides but I just mean you have to be prepared if it isn't.

I mean its an individual thing after all. Look at some Golden Age guys popping Dbol (also low dose but still) solo without even any PCT not having gyno at all.
Look at other Guys getting Gyno just looking at a Test vial.
 
^^ yeah to some extent its playing Russian roulette.. Especially when you're introducing a new compound to your stack. I'm concerned about hepatoxicity with running 2 17a's... Although the1 is supposedly mild due to the oxime
 
Wouldn't run 2 methylated orals together . Ever! Would constantly be worrying about my liver
 
Bunshichi said:
Dimethandrostenol would be a solid stacker with Dbol as well.
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How would you set a dbol/dimethandrostenol cycle up? I've got a bottle of OL d1meth and am going to have some 20mg dbol tabs... I'm not going to run this now, just curious to see what some options would be for a future cycle...
 
I would do 30/30 or 40 mg of Dimeth and wouldn't go over 4 weeks with that combo because of liver stress. I think the gainz would be really good even in the short time.
 
Bunshichi said:
I would do 30/30 or 40 mg of Dimeth and wouldn't go over 4 weeks with that combo because of liver stress. I think the gainz would be really good even in the short time.
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No sh1t? You think I'd get keepable gains without running test with it and after?
 
Would running a compound like masteron with dbol (in addition to test) harden up those watery dbol gains?
 
Yes you would get keepable gains. You will lose some gains after cycle but you will also be able to retain some with a good PCT if you just continue lifting heavy.
And yes Masteron would harden up the gains to some extend, mostly due to not retaining that much water.
 
Starting Dbol in about 4 weeks, but starting Mast E next week so it's working by the time the Dbol starts.
 
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