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EvoMuse DCP Writeup

dsade said:
I do 7 caps per day...2 morning, 2 early afternoon, 2 preworkout, and 1 pre bed.
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Haha okay. I thought I read to not take PWO as it can affect protein synthesis, but I am probably getting all the evomuse supps mixed up at this point as far as specifics like that go lol :(
 
The last of the DCP has been stocked at the store.

I also added the last of the DCP-AMMO stacks.

Expect it to be out of stock for at least 8 weeks.

There will be a sale at Nutriverse starting Thursday, in case you just want 1 bottle.

The intro sale for the 2 bottles will NOT be back. After running all of the numbers, DCP will retail for around $46.99-$48.99.
 
2 caps down about 90 mins ago. 30 mins later, MAJOR increase in body temp. Now though, im having the toilet splatters. Not sure what caused it
 
Are you sensitive to fucoxanthin?
 
HIT4ME said:
Guys, I have purchased straight capsaicin powder and used it in my own mixes. I can tell you, I've taken as much as 15-20 mg at a time. Anything over 10 mg of capsaicin and I'm in trouble gut wise. I will be on the toilet, sick feeling, and not able to do anything about it. I don't get warm from it, or notice anything else - but that doesn't mean it wasn't working, just that I couldn't tolerate it.

I also can barely notice the Brite heat. Sometimes I get waves of heat when I'm on Brite, but it isn't consistent for me like with others - but it definitely has an effect.

Capsaicin is actually, IMO, a great ingredient that has been well studied and has shown effects in appetites suppression and fat loss - but tolerance is an obvious issue - this is why everyone is always looking for analogs of capsaicin that aren't pungent (steroyl vanillamide, 6-paradol, gingerols, etc).

Matt is using mixed capsaicinoids, so they may be less upsetting than straight capsaicin, but 10 mg is a big dose that shouldn't be scoffed at. The mix may be less upsetting to the stomach and allow for higher dosing with more effect and less side effects, but it's just a hefty dose (which I am happy about).

And this is from someone who tolerates spicy foods very well, has handled straight capsaicin without a mask or gloves, etc. (which I wouldn't advise - it did effect me, but it didn't incapacitate me) I'm actually pretty tolerant, but over 10 mg, and my bowels just can't take it. And it usually takes 1-2 hours for the worst part to hit after I take it.

To give you another idea of how powerful capsaicin is - if I am in my kitchen weighing out 10 mg of it, my gf will start coughing UPSTAIRS in our bedroom. Just a small amount in the air, and you will know it is there.
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that must be it because the top of my stomach burns every time I take it im going to try and space out the doses today and see if it helps because two at a time is not working for me stomach wise. Ive tried sipping a little protein, extra water, rice cakes, even peanut butter and I get like a heart burn feeling with it when I take it with food.
 
Really loving Defuse + DCP. Yesterday, I had a cheat meal (2 hours buffet) which involved pounds of meat along with some carbs and approximately 3 pints of ice cream at the end... I took 4 caps of DCP along with a full serving of Defuse 30mins beforehand. I felt the DCP sysnergised well with Defuse because I woke up with better ab definition (less bloat etc) than the days when I cheated without DCP
 
Just picked up one dcp/ammo combo but more than likely will get a few more.
dsade

How would i dose ammo in conjunction with erase pro+? I did a search and it seems you recommended 1 ammo in the evening, any reason for not taking 2? I have about 6 weeks left for a goal i want to achieve but my love handles / legs seem to not be quite stubborn.

Erase Pro+ Ingredient Panel
Ashwagandha Root Extract (KSM-66®)(675 mg), Boerhaavia Diffusa Root Extract, Uncaria Tomentosa Bark Extract, Pine Bark Extract
2 in the morning
 
luckylefty811 said:
that must be it because the top of my stomach burns every time I take it im going to try and space out the doses today and see if it helps because two at a time is not working for me stomach wise. Ive tried sipping a little protein, extra water, rice cakes, even peanut butter and I get like a heart burn feeling with it when I take it with food.
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Yeah, capsaicin can be rough if the dose is too high. When I took it straight up, it was a burning/heartburn/stomach cramp type feeling. I would be on the toilet begging for mercy. I think it was my intestines more than my stomach that couldn't handle it, since it would often come on around 1-2 hours after I dosed, not immediately after, but who knows. My upper abdominal area would just be in severe pain.

I started my Sup3r-11 PCT today and have a bunch of new products that I opened, and somehow, I forgot about the DCP with all the change. The product I've been looking forward to running the most and I forgot it. So I just popped my first 3 pills now and took 3 squirts of Brite with it. I will take 3 more of each again around 8-9 tonight. Can't wait to see if my body temp shoots up. I'm still on T3 too, and even that doesn't get me above the high 97 range.
 
I've been on this product for 45 minutes and I already have feedback.

The good news is that the capsaicin I got, and the capsaicin in the DCP have the same reaction in my stomach. This means the stuff I got was probably real! haha.

That reaction is a slight increase in motility, burning, cramping, etc. It isn't the end of the world, but I will know better in another hour if it is going to get worse. I may have to start at 1-2 caps and build up a tolerance.

I feel hotter, but the thermometer doesn't read any higher (97.6). My nostrils have also become very clear, haha.

If mat takes 3 pills twice/day and then another at night, he's definitely built up a good tolerance to capsaicin, IMO. I will split my next dose into 1 and 2 pills taken a couple hours apart and see how those effect me. I suspect once I get below 10 mg, or 2 pills, it will be fine.
 
Sorry if this has been asked/answered, but how would I dose if I only eat "once" per day? I basically do a version of the warrior diet, where I fast all day and eat from about 7-9 p.m. I consume all of my calories within that 2 hour window.
 
Anyone else having problems lower stomach to balls lmao. That's what it feels like at leas.t happens about an hour after I take it. Don't know if it is this but I just started it and it has happened both days
 
Bodybeast said:
Anyone else having problems lower stomach to balls lmao. That's what it feels like at leas.t happens about an hour after I take it. Don't know if it is this but I just started it and it has happened both days
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Read my post and others above. Try 1 pill at a time, spaced out and then build up a tolerance. The capsaicin in this is well dosed and I just confirmed this 2 posts above yours.
 
I will be going to the 1 pill spaced out myself. I hope it doesnt take too long to get used to. The DCP/Brite combo has me feeling hot AF, however the capsicum dose is too much for me to handle.
 
dsade said:
1. Generally, the AMPk activation from DCP isn't going to be potent enough to cripple your protein synthesis, and the benefits of taking pre-workout given the prevalence of PPAR-delta in muscle cells, a preworkout dose is recommended.

2. With or without food doesn't matter much here, but if I had to lean towards a recommendation you should at least have a little something in your stomach.
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Does this protocol apply to the last formula as well? Just found a bottle stashed away in the cupboard and thought I would use this one while I wait to get the newest version.
 
cubsfan815 said:
I will be going to the 1 pill spaced out myself. I hope it doesnt take too long to get used to. The DCP/Brite combo has me feeling hot AF, however the capsicum dose is too much for me to handle.
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My guess is 1 pill won't tear you up at all. You will be able to bring the two closer and closer together until you can take two at a time. I would do something like 1, then the second 2 hours later, etc. Then after a few days try spacing the two 1 hour apart.
 
ms_mac said:
Does this protocol apply to the last formula as well? Just found a bottle stashed away in the cupboard and thought I would use this one while I wait to get the newest version.
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Yes.
 
dsade said:
Yes.
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I work out first thing in the am - empty stomach....just coffee. Still ok to do a pre w\o dose? I am thinking 2 pre w\o, 2 mid afternoon, and 2 in the evening before my last meal. Thoughts?
 
also got the capsicasum burning.

having it with food seems to help slightly.

will likely drop back to 1 cap in order to function at a normal state lol, yesterday i took some prior to cardio and it was a challenge, couldn't imagine if i threw a pre-workout in the mix too! lol
 
I took my first 3 pills prior to a deadlift workout, haha. Acid reflux feeling was potent. Two pills seems to be fine with me.
 
cubsfan815 said:
You must have iron stomach
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Like I said, for me 10 mg or two pills is the limit. I have a feeling dsade knew what he was doing with this dosing. He should have called this DCP Hardcore Sh1t.

In my experience it takes about 45 minutes for issues to hit and then about 1 hour to clear. So once you can tolerate 2 at a time, dosing every 4 hours even won't be an issue.
 
HIT4ME said:
Like I said, for me 10 mg or two pills is the limit. I have a feeling dsade knew what he was doing with this dosing. He should have called this DCP Hardcore Sh1t.

In my experience it takes about 45 minutes for issues to hit and then about 1 hour to clear. So once you can tolerate 2 at a time, dosing every 4 hours even won't be an issue.
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While it's always n option to go higher than label recommendation, I always try to make sure that you don't have to to get a full, and potent , dose of all ingredients.

Anything else just seems to strike me as dishonest.
 
HIT4ME said:
Like I said, for me 10 mg or two pills is the limit. I have a feeling dsade knew what he was doing with this dosing. He should have called this DCP Hardcore Sh1t.

In my experience it takes about 45 minutes for issues to hit and then about 1 hour to clear. So once you can tolerate 2 at a time, dosing every 4 hours even won't be an issue.
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I have been doing 2, just skipping the dose later in the day. So I've been doing 4 caps vs 6. I did 6 first day, and it was a lot lol.

I'll probably keep 2 in morning, 2 at lunch, then add 1 around 4. After few days, I'll add the 2nd. That way I can work my way up, like you said. I love the body temp increase though, it's intense.
 
dsade said:
While it's always n option to go higher than label recommendation, I always try to make sure that you don't have to to get a full, and potent , dose of all ingredients.

Anything else just seems to strike me as dishonest.
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in relation to this. the bottle says 2 caps 3x a day.

but i see people saying in here 3 caps twice daily.

Is the latter the better option? or does it not really matter? i mean twice a day dosing would be easier because im not keen to take this stuff on an empty stomach lol, well not yet at least.
 
dsade said:
While it's always n option to go higher than label recommendation, I always try to make sure that you don't have to to get a full, and potent , dose of all ingredients.

Anything else just seems to strike me as dishonest.
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Yes, I definitely didn't mean to imply that either. 30 mg a day of capsaicin is as high as I've seen in any product except maybe I think EBF had something back in the day.
 
HIT4ME said:
Yes, I definitely didn't mean to imply that either. 30 mg a day of capsaicin is as high as I've seen in any product except maybe I think EBF had something back in the day.
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Oh, I didn't take it that way at all, just making sure everyone realizes that going higher than the recommended dose isn't at all necessary to reap full effects.
 
dsade said:
Oh, I didn't take it that way at all, just making sure everyone realizes that going higher than the recommended dose isn't at all necessary to reap full effects.
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Reap the full benefits if 50 mg/day of capsaicin? You could sell a million of these at that dose. Guaranteed to lose 3 pounds in the first 2 days! (On the toilet)
 
scump said:
also got the capsicasum burning.

having it with food seems to help slightly.

will likely drop back to 1 cap in order to function at a normal state lol, yesterday i took some prior to cardio and it was a challenge, couldn't imagine if i threw a pre-workout in the mix too! lol
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Tums helps
 
HIT4ME said:
Reap the full benefits if 50 mg/day of capsaicin? You could sell a million of these at that dose. Guaranteed to lose 3 pounds in the first 2 days! (On the toilet)
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Cap has never really hit me like that, luckily
 
I had the capsaicin stomach burns the first 5 days of starting DCP, but that discomfort mysteriously went away and I'm about 12 days into dosing 2 caps 3x a day. I also started taking curcumin c3 complex with bioperine with my DCP and it doesn't bother me at all. Gotta build up an iron stomach I guess. Haha.
Just a thought....If some of you are having a tough time adjusting to the capsaicin, perhaps taking some virgin coconut oil with it will ease the initial discomfort.
 
dsade said:
Cap has never really hit me like that, luckily
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Word to the wise make sure you drink enough water when you take DCP before cardio I just burped it up and it came out my nose ...I felt like a dragon shooting out fire LOL
 
DieselNY said:
Word to the wise make sure you drink enough water when you take DCP before cardio I just burped it up and it came out my nose ...I felt like a dragon shooting out fire LOL
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LMFAO! I just took my first dose of DCP and Epitome together :D
 
BRUstrong said:
Sorry if this has been asked/answered, but how would I dose if I only eat "once" per day? I basically do a version of the warrior diet, where I fast all day and eat from about 7-9 p.m. I consume all of my calories within that 2 hour window.
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Bump? Probably not a lot of input as my eating habits are pretty unusual. I have a strong stomach (all of my supplements are taken on an empty stomach) so I'll probably pull the trigger and try 1-2 caps at a time spaced out, with my last 2 coming before my feeding window
 
BRUstrong said:
Bump? Probably not a lot of input as my eating habits are pretty unusual. I have a strong stomach (all of my supplements are taken on an empty stomach) so I'll probably pull the trigger and try 1-2 caps at a time spaced out, with my last 2 coming before my feeding window
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Idk about the diet but I have taken on an empty stomach pre fasted cardio about 7 times already. Nothing negative. Maybe an increase in hunger though...
 
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