Tongkat Ali LJ100

[kboxer7]

the price of lj100 gets stupid if you are dosing anywhere close to 8 caps daily, imo!!!

I think it is priced too high even at 2 caps per day, lol!!!

but I don't have the money to spend on supps some of these guys seem to have....

I stick to 2-3 for that reason. imo it is pretty reasonable at 2 caps/day (especially if you can hit an insider). But that's just my opinion : )

 

[mbonheur]

Tonvara not legit?
I can say Tonvara is definitely legit !
Dont forget they are buying Ajuga Turkestanica Extract from ICPS. Its far from cheap but Tonvara does everything to give their customers solid products and quality

Actually their TA is pretty cheap for 200:1. The most notorious TA suppliers sell for a lot more.

And I know their Turkesterone, however I am not sure how this underlines necessarily the quality of their TA. What makes me also dubious is that several websites that list authentic TA sources, cite Tonvara as not being legit. Could be paid to do so and biased, but still. I guess we'll never know for sure, but my personal experience at 2 caps is at least "not impressive".

 

[thebigt]

I stick to 2-3 for that reason. imo it is pretty reasonable at 2 caps/day (especially if you can hit an insider). But that's just my opinion : )

I guess I will have to look for an 'insider'.

 

[Danes]

Actually their TA is pretty cheap for 200:1. The most notorious TA suppliers sell for a lot more.

And I know their Turkesterone, however I am not sure how this underlines necessarily the quality of their TA. What makes me also dubious is that several websites that list authentic TA sources, cite Tonvara as not being legit. Could be paid to do so and biased, but still. I guess we'll never know for sure, but my personal experience at 2 caps is at least "not impressive".

Other TA sources who sell 200:1 is overpriced and far from legit.
And I also would like you to know (since you believe Tonvara TA is not legit).3 guys I know who did bloodwork after tonvara Run had a solid T increase.

Those sites you mention are fake and I know there is a one man( Serge Kreutz) who was spreading a lot of lie about TA.(which color it should be +++). The truth is, this man is nothing than a scammer who runs several sites selling TA and claiming other TA sources are crap.

Tonvara TA is legit

 

[mbonheur]

Other TA sources who sell 200:1 is overpriced and far from legit.
And I also would like you to know (since you believe Tonvara TA is not legit).3 guys I know who did bloodwork after tonvara Run had a solid T increase.

Those sites you mention are fake and I know there is a one man who was spreading a lot of lie about TA.(which color it should be +++). The truth is, this man is nothing than a scammer who ran several sites selling TA and claiming other TA sources are crap.

Tonvara TA is legit

Yes, but I am not talking about the Herbolab guy. Anyways, I'm not saying that it is not legit, but was wondering whether it was. That is why I am asking here. I have used it and share my experience.

So you are telling me that World ABS and the old stuff (the recent ones are weird) of "Authentic Tongkat Ali" are not legit?

At any rate, my experience was more intense with this stuff, but again, I have not made a lab test or anything to check their contents.

At what dose did "your" guys run Tonvara?

 

[Danes]

Yes, but I am not talking about the Herbolab guy. Anyways, I'm not saying that it is not legit, but was wondering whether it was. That is why I am asking here. I have used it and share my experience.

So you are telling me that World ABS and the old stuff (the recent ones are weird) of "Authentic Tongkat Ali" is not legit?

At any rate, my experience was more intense with this stuff, but again, I have not made a lab test or anything to check their contents.

At what dose did "your" guys run Tonvara?

Serge Kreutz is running several sites. He is involved in many other too.

Could you answer me couple of questions:
-How old are you?
-what do you expect from TA?

 

[mbonheur]

Serge Kreutz is running several sites. He is involved in many other too.

Could you answer me couple of questions:
-How old are you?
-what do you expect from TA?

I'm not far from 40. I was not expecting anything, I am comparing with other TA that I used in the past. And as I said, I experienced increase in libido, strength, etc. My balls were literally exploding and the increase in strength in the gym was very noticeable.

And also, maybe two caps of Tonvara are too low for me (that is the dosage I used before) and I am getting used to it.

 

[Danes]

I'm not far from 40. I was not expecting anything, I am comparing with other TA that I used in the past. And as I said, I experienced increase in libido, strength, etc. My balls were literally exploding and the increase in strength in the gym was very noticeable.

And also, maybe two caps of Tonvara are too low for me (that is the dosage I used before) and I am getting used to it.

Be aware that Serge Kreutz is using other names such as Sam Sanare and other.

You should definitely try 3-4 caps to see how that works.
Have you tried LJ100 btw ?

 

[mbonheur]

Be aware that Serge Kreutz is using other names such as Sam Sanare and other.

You should definitely try 3-4 caps to see how that works.
Have you tried LJ100 btw ?

Yes, I tried LJ100 in the past. I am not a fan either , especially at this price. I went up to 6 caps. Problem is that I compare now everything with my past experience which was maybe not even legit TA either (I took World ABS and the "authentic Tongkat ali" stuff)

 

[Danes]

Yes, I tried LJ100 in the past. I am not a fan either , especially at this price. I went up to 6 caps. Problem is that I compare now everything with my past experience which was maybe not even legit TA either (I took World ABS and the "authentic Tongkat ali" stuff)

If 6 caps of LJ100 and 2 tabs of Tonvara TA Gave you almost nothing compared to TA you tried before,then I can even bet the TA product you tried before was not TA to be honest

 

[hamdysayed]

If 6 caps of LJ100 and 2 tabs of Tonvara TA Gave you almost nothing compared to TA you tried before,then I can even bet the TA product you tried before was not TA to be honest

Yeah agreed it's not making sense how he describing the benefits of previous tong cat ali.

 

[mbonheur]

If 6 caps of LJ100 and 2 tabs of Tonvara TA Gave you almost nothing compared to TA you tried before,then I can even bet the TA product you tried before was not TA to be honest

Ok, good to know. What should I expect then if my described effects are not "correct"? So maybe I really got brownish Cialis or something (never used Cialis). As I said, my balls were almost exploding, horny all the time and I could easily lift 10-20% more within a week of use. And I should not get some heat in my head? That is what I was reading as well before.

 

[Ape McGrapes]

I seriously want a 9-hydroxycanthin-6-one extract. Why is this not a thing?

 

[Danes]

Ok, good to know. What should I expect then if my described effects are not "correct"? So maybe I really got brownish Cialis or something (never used Cialis). As I said, my balls were almost exploding, horny all the time and I could easily lift 10-20% more within a week of use. And I should not get some heat in my head? That is what I was reading as well before.

Tongkat Ali effects can really vary from person to person. Even i, with no libido issues got massive libido on TA from Tonvara and LJ100, while some guys who live here just notice increase energy, agression (more temper ++).
I mean you should give LJ100 another try.
Which brand dis you run for LJ100?

 

[Danes]

I seriously want a 9-hydroxycanthin-6-one extract. Why is this not a thing?

Because a good extract does contain enough Canthin-6-one metabolites such as 9-hydroxycanthin-6-one and 9-methoxycanthin-6-one

 

[Ape McGrapes]

Because a good extract does contain enough Canthin-6-one metabolites such as 9-hydroxycanthin-6-one and 9-methoxycanthin-6-one

Enough to delay ejaculation?

 

[mbonheur]

Tongkat Ali effects can really vary from person to person. Even i, with no libido issues got massive libido on TA from Tonvara and LJ100, while some guys who live here just notice increase energy, agression (more temper ++).
I mean you should give LJ100 another try.
Which brand dis you run for LJ100?

OL, but at the price tag I would rather give Tonvara a second chance. And how are my described effects that different? Too strong?

 

[Danes]

OL, but at the price tag I would rather give Tonvara a second chance. And how are my described effects that different? Too strong?

No, not to strong at all. Very common to get those effects but effects may vary from year to year. I mean, if you are 30 and try a compound. It may give you different effect when you are 35-40 etc.
I never got any sides from TA before but I got excess energy, tension etc from my last TA run

 

[Danes]

Enough to delay ejaculation?

I would say yes.
When I am damn horny, I dont last long in bed to be honest. Annoying but true.
I felt delayed ejaculation on TA.

 

[mbonheur]

No, not to strong at all. Very common to get those effects but effects may vary from year to year. I mean, if you are 30 and try a compound. It may give you different effect when you are 35-40 etc.
I never got any sides from TA before but I got excess energy, tension etc from my last TA run

I'm referring to you and an other user saying that my old TA was not really TA given the things that I described. But I get the impression that it corresponds pretty much to what TA should do. Thanks for your feedback btw

 

[Danes]

I'm referring to you and an other user saying that my old TA was not really TA given the things that I described. But I get the impression that it corresponds pretty much to what TA should do. Thanks for your feedback btw

I mean it could be a spiked product since you felt nothing from 6 caps of LJ100.
No problem at all. Anytime!

 

[hamdysayed]

I would say yes.
When I am damn horny, I dont last long in bed to be honest. Annoying but true.
I felt delayed ejaculation on TA.

I think that's 95% of men. But that's awesome it did delay it, how many caps u were on when u noticed these effects .

 

[alvin1]

Is powder city TA is a good one?

 

[Volvo140G]

Grab LJ100 at 25% off here if anyones at all interested... there's lots of weird TA on the Web, pays to get it from a good source.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/280198-iconic-formulations-olympus.html

 

[thebigt]

Grab LJ100 at 25% off here if anyones at all interested... there's lots of weird TA on the Web, pays to get it from a good source.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/280198-iconic-formulations-olympus.html

LJ100 $27.99...NOT BAD!!!

 

[JYD]

Thinking of getting some OL LJ100. Did you need to run an AI with it?

 

[Danes]

Thinking of getting some OL LJ100. Did you need to run an AI with it?

You dont need any AI with LJ100

 

[Danes]

I think that's 95% of men. But that's awesome it did delay it, how many caps u were on when u noticed these effects .

Even with 200mg I felt difference

 

[alvin1]

Is powder city TA is a good one?

Bump!

 

[QuarkStar]

Even with 200mg I felt difference

Hi Danes, been a long time out of the forum (out of the internet i must say) constantly battling to get that s***ty Xanax even decreasing the doses (i'm not out however it's pretty better than before). Now i'm running Triazole, Alivel 3x100 (after months of "detoxify" the system) and Butea Superba extract. I must say that Alivel 3x100 after 10 days (3 % Eurycomanone extract) is kicking very potently!! The problem is, they don't ship anymore to Italy, so i must take LJ100 in the future; the capsules are 50 mg, 2 times a day, 5 days on 2 off. It's so strong! Best extract i ever tried, with Triazole works wonders, i'm totally a different person now, even better then i was months ago; i'm here to say that because months ago i've promised that i wanted to share my thoughts on Alivel, and is very strong, i must admit. However in the past i was only triyng Tongkat powder, which was a good surce, but needed to be in high doses (even 2,5-3 grams a day, and it was different from that high eurycomanone extract). Sorry, i was in pretty bad time, so my english is even deteriorated hope you feel good! feel free to question if you want! bye, Erik

 

[thebigt]

Hi Danes, been a long time out of the forum (out of the internet i must say) constantly battling to get that s***ty Xanax even decreasing the doses (i'm not out however it's pretty better than before). Now i'm running Triazole, Alivel 3x100 (after months of "detoxify" the system) and Butea Superba extract. I must say that Alivel 3x100 after 10 days (3 % Eurycomanone extract) is kicking very potently!! The problem is, they don't ship anymore to Italy, so i must take LJ100 in the future; the capsules are 50 mg, 2 times a day, 5 days on 2 off. It's so strong! Best extract i ever tried, with Triazole works wonders, i'm totally a different person now, even better then i was months ago; i'm here to say that because months ago i've promised that i wanted to share my thoughts on Alivel, and is very strong, i must admit. However in the past i was only triyng Tongkat powder, which was a good surce, but needed to be in high doses (even 2,5-3 grams a day, and it was different from that high eurycomanone extract). Sorry, i was in pretty bad time, so my english is even deteriorated hope you feel good! feel free to question if you want! bye, Erik

alivel 3x100 sounds really interesting, but it looks hard to find...have you ever tried the more common brands like OL LJ100 OR BLR VIRON for comparison?

 

[QuarkStar]

alivel 3x100 sounds really interesting, but it looks hard to find...have you ever tried the more common brands like OL LJ100 OR BLR VIRON for comparison?

If you live in America, Alivel is selled on Ebay without problems. Never tried LJ100 or Viron, but i have Viron on hand for a try next month or so. Only tried different powders before, but I can see the difference.

 

[thebigt]

If you live in America, Alivel is selled on Ebay without problems. Never tried LJ100 or Viron, but i have Viron on hand for a try next month or so. Only tried different powders before, but I can see the difference.

looks like ebay is showing oos....I have tried viron and lj100, I was going to try alivel to compare.

hey, when you get around to trying viron shoot me a pm about comparison to alivel...thanks, t.

 

[Danes]

Hi Danes, been a long time out of the forum (out of the internet i must say) constantly battling to get that s***ty Xanax even decreasing the doses (i'm not out however it's pretty better than before). Now i'm running Triazole, Alivel 3x100 (after months of "detoxify" the system) and Butea Superba extract. I must say that Alivel 3x100 after 10 days (3 % Eurycomanone extract) is kicking very potently!! The problem is, they don't ship anymore to Italy, so i must take LJ100 in the future; the capsules are 50 mg, 2 times a day, 5 days on 2 off. It's so strong! Best extract i ever tried, with Triazole works wonders, i'm totally a different person now, even better then i was months ago; i'm here to say that because months ago i've promised that i wanted to share my thoughts on Alivel, and is very strong, i must admit. However in the past i was only triyng Tongkat powder, which was a good surce, but needed to be in high doses (even 2,5-3 grams a day, and it was different from that high eurycomanone extract). Sorry, i was in pretty bad time, so my english is even deteriorated hope you feel good! feel free to question if you want! bye, Erik

Hey QuarkStar / Erik
I am glad you are feeling better and welcome back! I havent been so much here lately either .
Let us know how Alivel compares to Lj100

 

[QuarkStar]

looks like ebay is showing oos....I have tried viron and lj100, I was going to try alivel to compare.

hey, when you get around to trying viron shoot me a pm about comparison to alivel...thanks, t.

for sure! However Alivel is working very high eheh

 

[QuarkStar]

Hey QuarkStar / Erik
I am glad you are feeling better and welcome back! I havent been so much here lately either .
Let us know how Alivel compares to Lj100

Thanks Danes! when Alivel is finished i can compare with Viron, i don't have LJ100 now..with with respect to powder, it is absolutely Waaaaaayyy more powerful!!

 

[Danes]

Thanks Danes! when Alivel is finished i can compare with Viron, i don't have LJ100 now..with with respect to powder, it is absolutely Waaaaaayyy more powerful!!

I may try Alivel

 

[thebigt]

I may try Alivel

it is very hard to find...

 

[Danes]

it is very hard to find...

Sending you a link my friend

 

[thebigt]

Sending you a link my friend

thanks...you always seem to have my 6!!!:beerchug:

 

[Danes]

thanks...you always seem to have my 6!!!:beerchug:

No problem at all !!

 

[vujade]

I may try Alivel

I may as well. especially the 100 x 3 version. Seems the same doctor that helped develop LJ100
has something to do with AlivEl

 

[Danes]

I may as well. especially the 100 x 3 version. Seems the same doctor that helped develop LJ100
has something to do with AlivEl

Nice % Of Eurycomanone . I will give it a try

 

[hamdysayed]

Nice % Of Eurycomanone . I will give it a try

Danes can i have the link too plz

 

[rtmilburn]

Danes can i have the link too plz

Dido

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Buy Barlowe's Tongkat Ali; cheaper and more potent!

100 parts maltodextrin to 1 part Tongkat Ali?

 

[cubsfan815]

[/QUOTE]Barlowe's Tongkat Ali[/URL][/B]; cheaper and more potent![/QUOTE]

Now Amazon referral link. You are having an impressive run tonight buddy.

 

[QuarkStar]

Nice % Of Eurycomanone . I will give it a try

Definitely. I have buyed it from the bay, in the US, but now customs are making problems don't know why...however i've been refunded and buyed Viron instead..hope this work as well

 

[QuarkStar]

Has anyone tried Red tongkat Ali?it's from Indonesia, same family (Simaroubacee) but less famous...
EDIT: i was searching and found that there are three types of Tongkat: yellow (classic), black and red. Red seems to be the most rare. However benefits seems to be the same. If anyone has information...however i've buyed 10 grams of powder, when it arrives i give you more info!

 

[QuarkStar]

looks like ebay is showing oos....I have tried viron and lj100, I was going to try alivel to compare.

hey, when you get around to trying viron shoot me a pm about comparison to alivel...thanks, t.

Hey, how you compare Viron vs LJ100?which has done better for you??