Donald Trump running for president

Also there is a great read on Bodyrecomposition media shared today getting very in depth on physical performance differences between the sexes including trans (though as it applies to sport)
 
Driven2lift said:
What sets us apart and advanced us to the top is brains, not brawn.

The earlier "cops need to be bigger/stronger than criminals" example is absurd.

Bodybuilders would dominate the job market

All of these profession examples are amply geared for the task. Of course they can't be prepared for any and everything...
But then no one can.

And I'd feel safer with the most intelligent & trained servicemen/women than I would with anyone otherwise. Military included for me
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what the hell is your point, lol....I was talking about transgenders getting sex change operations paid for by military, and then having lifelong follow-up care at the VA...I am worried that the VA would give preferential treatment over vets who are dying to get care, just to satisfy the liberal agenda!!!

it would be hard to have a contract that covers that issue without offending 'sensibilities'.....this pc crap is not equality, imo.
 
Than not at all what I was discussing before, ok...

Different pages entirely, I shall retire and return this to the Americans
 
Driven2lift said:
Than not at all what I was discussing before, ok...

Different pages entirely, I shall retire and return this to the Americans
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don't run off...I may not agree with you on some stuff but different viewpoints are always welcome....lol, gutterpump is mostly Canadian and that doesn't stop him!!!:lmao:
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Which country is "we" exactly? Also, anybody that thinks France is chicken knows absolutely nothing about military history.
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they should read a series called SHARPE'S RIFLES by BERNARD CORNWELL...very nice depiction of the Napoleonic wars seen thru the eyes of a british infantryman. it is fiction but has a lot of historical accuracy's.
 
thebigt said:
don't run off...I may not agree with you on some stuff but different viewpoints are always welcome....lol, gutterpump is mostly Canadian and that doesn't stop him!!!:lmao:
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Exactly!!' But then again I'm the most patriotic Canadian there is (to the US)

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Gettin ready for the 4th!! Muricuh!!
 
thebigt said:
they should read a series called SHARPE'S RIFLES by BERNARD CORNWELL...very nice depiction of the Napoleonic wars seen thru the eyes of a british infantryman. it is fiction but has a lot of historical accuracy's.
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Nice suggestion! I don't understand how any American can make disparaging comments about the French in regards to military or bravery when they played such a huge role in the American Revolutionary War.
 
thebigt said:
don't run off...I may not agree with you on some stuff but different viewpoints are always welcome....lol, gutterpump is mostly Canadian and that doesn't stop him!!!:lmao:
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I'm just not a close follower to American politics anyways. I know as much as is unavoidable (and viral lol)

I wouldn't argue with someone who knows the topic at hand better. US military budget use for sex change and all that is unknown to me.

This is why I have been a rare sight in here
I know my knowledge has limitations

But human rights/moral issues and sex/gender issues are things that land on both sides of the border and I have firm stances on.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Which country is "we" exactly? Also, anybody that thinks France is chicken knows absolutely nothing about military history.
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Why does "we" have to be a country? "We" could be the western allies, especially since I'm referencing WWII. In any case, the Russians played the biggest part in winning the war. I'm not diminishing anyone else's efforts, but they did.
 
Gutterpump said:
Why does "we" have to be a country? "We" could be the western allies, especially since I'm referencing WWII. In any case, the Russians played the biggest part in winning the war. I'm not diminishing anyone else's efforts, but they did.
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That is just not true. USA gave everyone most of the supplies, won the most battles, took out the most military vehicles, killed the most solidiers, and really was the only one who fought Japan.

Honestly Russia didn't do much other then defend and take back their land. That is a fact. Oh and stole stuff.
 
rtmilburn said:
That is just not true. USA gave everyone most of the supplies, won the most battles, took out the most military vehicles, killed the most solidiers, and really was the only one who fought Japan.

Honestly Russia didn't do much other then defend and take back their land. That is a fact. Oh and stole stuff.
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Wow, ok well that's completely false (about Russia). We had a discussion about this before in here, with references and links. Let me drag em up again.

Russia is completely responsible for ending the war in the largest, bloodiest battle of all time. It crushed the Germans. This is historical fact. Give me a few minutes and I'll get you the links.
 
Jiigzz said:
Right.

The point of the police test here in NZ is to determine you if you are physically fit or not. The run is 2.4km in 10 minutes for males between a certain age. On the day to day, no cop is required to run that distance in that time to catch a criminal, it's a screening test for anaerobic and aerobic capacity. You then go down to police college where all people are subject to the same training criteria as each other, things more applicable to daily routine. Cant complete that? You dont make the cut.
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Unless you're a female that can't pass the NYFD academy. Numerous times. They gave this chic a pass when all the other women that got hired actually passed the physical requirements.
 
The most horrific, titanic clash in Human history, contained within the greatest, most horrific war in Human history. There will never be a war like this again - nuclear fire would be a merciful destiny compared to the fates of some in this conflict - and there will never again be two colossal civilizations falling upon one another in a clash of total war, as the Third Reich and Soviet Union did.

So many books have focused on Western activity during the war and so much has been made of it in entertainment media, when in reality we played little more than a side-show; a series of trailers before the big movie. We may not like the Russia we have today...we may have spent forty years in a state of ideological conflict against the Communists...but by God, we were saved by the Red Army.
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Gutterpump said:
Why does "we" have to be a country? "We" could be the western allies, especially since I'm referencing WWII. In any case, the Russians played the biggest part in winning the war. I'm not diminishing anyone else's efforts, but they did.
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You referenced WWII with a picture that has a bunch of flags that represent countries...that's why.
 
Gutterpump said:
Why does "we" have to be a country? "We" could be the western allies, especially since I'm referencing WWII. In any case, the Russians played the biggest part in winning the war. I'm not diminishing anyone else's efforts, but they did.
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The US supplied the USSR with 14,700 airplanes, 7,000 tanks, and 15.4 million pairs of boots. In terms of material and financial support, the U.S. was important, possibly critical in the success of Stalin's grinding down of Hitler.
 
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Unless you're a female that can't pass the NYFD academy. Numerous times. They gave this chic a pass when all the other women that got hired actually passed the physical requirements.
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I don't agree with that at all. Just to be clear, I support scaling, not passing to be PC
 
Gutterpump said:
So what's the big deal? Lol who cares. It's just a meme lol
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You're using that meme and opinion pieces from the Post to try and support your argument which I'm calling BS on. Also, you keep bashing countries based on false and extremely naïve info and when I call you on it, you make some sort of joke.
 
Gutterpump said:
Wow, ok well that's completely false (about Russia). We had a discussion about this before in here, with references and links. Let me drag em up again.

Russia is completely responsible for ending the war in the largest, bloodiest battle of all time. It crushed the Germans. This is historical fact. Give me a few minutes and I'll get you the links.
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It's not entirely correct, but the Eastern Front was an important strategic loss for Hitler and was one of the key reasons they lost the war. But it's also important to realise that Germany waging wars on so many fronts, and also committing huge strategic errors as well. Had Germany not invaded the east, he may well have taken over most of Europe given how much resources he committed to the Eastern front that could have spelled disaster for Europe. But they did, and both fronts wore them down.

Russia can attribute at least a small amount of its' success to that of US resource supply, but also the US played key roles in the war of the pacific.

It's not fair to say the Russians won the more any more than it is fair to say the US did. It's not that simple
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Exactly. Thus why it was a world war and not the US-German or Russia-German war.
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Exactly. I have a fascination with world war two related stuff; it's an interesting topic.
 
Jiigzz said:
Exactly. I have a fascination with world war two related stuff; it's an interesting topic.
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Yep. Alot of talk about how brutally the Russians fought. However the Japanese took the most death toll as well as fought the most brutally, and oh who was pretty much the only one who fought them???
 
Jiigzz said:
It's not entirely correct, but the Eastern Front was an important strategic loss for Hitler and was one of the key reasons they lost the war. But it's also important to realise that Germany waging wars on so many fronts, and also committing huge strategic errors as well. Had Germany not invaded the east, he may well have taken over most of Europe given how much resources he committed to the Eastern front that could have spelled disaster for Europe. But they did, and both fronts wore them down.

Russia can attribute at least a small amount of its' success to that of US resource supply, but also the US played key roles in the war of the pacific.

It's not fair to say the Russians won the more any more than it is fair to say the US did. It's not that simple
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One of the big victories of russia over germany was the weather too and unpreparedness of buying their troops new Uniqlo jackets.
 
Meanwhile in Canada:
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Enjoy your celebrations all of AM's USA brothers and sisters!
I shall raise a glass/shaker from up here as well
 
Driven2lift said:
Meanwhile in Canada:
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Enjoy your celebrations all of AM's USA brothers and sisters!
I shall raise a glass/shaker from up here as well
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That's nothing, Obama announced gay pride MONTH the day after we celebrated our vets for a measly 24 hours.
 
ax1 said:
That's nothing, Obama announced gay pride MONTH the day after we celebrated our vets for a measly 24 hours.
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I always wonder how heavily PR weighs in on decisions like these.

If gay pride had been pushed to the masses so much lately that it was more "popular" or draws more public appeal.

That topic is kind of lose/lose for Obama lol. Someone is angry regardless. Always.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
You're using that meme and opinion pieces from the Post to try and support your argument which I'm calling BS on. Also, you keep bashing countries based on false and extremely naïve info and when I call you on it, you make some sort of joke.
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Ok well here we go with your real issue.

At first you just had an issue with "who is we". And I wrote who cares? The west obviously, and this is why I was sarcastic cos you were nitpicking some petty a$$ $hit about a word "we".

But if you want to deny that the Russians fought and won the biggest battle of WWII, and the largest tank battle of all time, then you're simply denying history. No big deal though. People do that all the time.
 
And everyone, please be aware and take extra precaution. The gheys (alongside Obama) are lacing fireworks with homosexual chemtrails!! Tinfoil lined gas masks are recommended whilst viewing any large firework display.

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Gutterpump said:
And everyone, please be aware and take extra precaution. The gheys are lacing fireworks with homosexual chemtrails!! Tinfoil lined gas masks are recommended whilst viewing any large firework display.

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Haha
 
Gutterpump said:
Ok well here we go with your real issue.

At first you just had an issue with "who is we". And I wrote who cares? The west obviously, and this is why I was sarcastic cos you were nitpicking some petty a$$ $hit about a word "we".

But if you want to deny that the Russians fought and won the biggest battle of WWII, and the largest tank battle of all time, then you're simply denying history. No big deal though. People do that all the time.
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When the **** did I say that? Your quote was "Russia is completely responsible for ending the war". Do you not understand the difference between battles and wars, because now you're ****ing lying and putting words in my mouth to avoid my question. I'm not denying history. I'm straight up saying that you haven't done the research and are being lazy about relying on a Post reporter's opinion to support your complete lack of one.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
When the **** did I say that? Your quote was "Russia is completely responsible for ending the war". Do you not understand the difference between battles and wars, because now you're ****ing lying and putting words in my mouth to avoid my question. I'm not denying history. I'm straight up saying that you haven't done the research and are being lazy about relying on a Post reporter's opinion to support your complete lack of one.
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This needs repeating. There were some islands in the pacific that claimed the lifes of thousands of marines, yet were never used to advance the war. A bloody battle fought, only for people decide the position was not advantageous enough to utilise again.

Battles can claim plenty of lifes yet serve no purpose. Remember, when Germany advanced into Russia, they committed mass slaughter of any captured troups and were intent on destroying the soviet union, once russia grouped together (seriously fortunate to not be crushed at starlingrad due to a series of misjudgments on Hitlers part), the Germans knew they would now be fighting for survival so they threw everything they could to stop it. On the west, the germans fought for a negotiated peace, on the east, to not be destroyed
 
rtmilburn said:
I can't wait for the Presidential debates when trump calls here out on her crimes, you know he will.
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Oh, she was just "extremely careless." Yeah right, was she careless when she obstructed justice by deleting the evidence?
 
smith_69 said:
T did you really think she was going to be indicted
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yes, I held out hope there was still justice in this country...I was wrong.


I blame Obama, I can only guess what kind of blackmail bill Clinton laid out to attorney general lynch to relay back to Obama.

our political system is hopelessly broken.


if you vote for Hillary you can expect things to get much worse!!!! God help us if the Clinton's get back in the white house.
 
thebigt said:
yes, I held out hope there was still justice in this country...I was wrong.


I blame Obama, I can only guess what kind of blackmail bill Clinton laid out to attorney general lynch to relay back to Obama.

our political system is hopelessly broken.


if you vote for Hillary you can expect things to get much worse!!!! God help us if the Clinton's get back in the white house.
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Agreed but trump would be just as bad. Although I don't think trump will get anything done(good thing imo with how dumb these two are). As in your government you have to be willing to work with people whom you dislike or disagree with to pass anything, and I just don't see trump doing that. He just gonna piss people off and make them not want to help or work with him, making nothing actually happen during his presidency.
 
rtmilburn said:
Agreed but trump would be just as bad. Although I don't think trump will get anything done(good thing imo with how dumb these two are). As in your government you have to be willing to work with people whom you dislike or disagree with to pass anything, and I just don't see trump doing that. He just gonna piss people off and make them not want to help or work with him, making nothing actually happen during his presidency.
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We need a President who will actually do something about these criminals. I already heard Trump say back in the beginning he isnt going to press any charges on Obama. He said it would take too much time and he wants to move this country forward.

If we dont hold these criminals accountable for their treason and corruption its only going to keep getting worse.
 
rtmilburn said:
Agreed but trump would be just as bad. Although I don't think trump will get anything done(good thing imo with how dumb these two are). As in your government you have to be willing to work with people whom you dislike or disagree with to pass anything, and I just don't see trump doing that. He just gonna piss people off and make them not want to help or work with him, making nothing actually happen during his presidency.
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which makes trump the much better option in my opinion!!!

I don't know if I can take another 4 years of pc politics....don't forget supreme court appointees!!!

Hillary has already said that half her cabinet will be women, doesn't matter if they are best candidates for the job.....I am all for fairness and equality, but it seems the deck is being stacked against white males!!!
 
thebigt said:
which makes trump the much better option in my opinion!!!

I don't know if I can take another 4 years of pc politics....don't forget supreme court appointees!!!

Hillary has already said that half her cabinet will be women, doesn't matter if they are best candidates for the job.....I am all for fairness and equality, but it seems the deck is being stacked against white males!!!
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If you HAVE to pick the two its a easy choice. Hitlery is a well established Bilderberg genocidalist mass murdering killing machine. This is done and done fact. Trump isnt, at least not yet, lol.
 
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