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FOLLIDRONE 2.0 FAQ Updated follidrone writeup and info***

I'm in UK and ordered from nutriverse and it got here extremely quickly, I normally just order from US as it isn't that much of a wait and normally much better pricing
 
In my country, better not to think buying from USA.

Orders could be parked in the customs for 1 or 2 months, above 22€ we have to pay 8€ + 23% and theres a chance of the product being seized.

I know buying from UK it´s like the double of the price but we have no other choice. Customs really really really sucks.
 
DoubleM101 said:
I read somewhere in this thread the shipping to UK suppliers would be the "new version".

I see some UK stores already have it in stock but it seems theres not yet a "new version", right? So i guess what the UK stores have it´s the "original" formula.

There will be an updated formula? I´m very curious to try this but since i have a very sensitive digestive system, i think i will wait for the new one.
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There is only 1 formula.
Currently there is no plan to alter it.
Im going to run some tests on the ingredients but as of now there is no plan to make any changes.
So...everything in stock, anywhere is the same.

We have sold thousands of units and only a handful of people have gi issues.
If you compare this to other supps like Arachidonic acid which gives MOST users negative issues like joint pain
or forskolin which causes GI distress for alot of people then the % is very small and the effects are very good.

I do plan on testing reductions in specific ingredients but I wouldnt wait expecting a "new version" as it may not ever exist.

My suggestion for those with sensitive stomachs is take FD2 with food. This seems to alleviate issues for 99%.
Joint pain appears to subside with higher fat intake. Up fish oils, use more EVOO on your salads, macadamia nut oil, flax oil etc.
 
DoubleM101 said:
In my country, better not to think buying from USA.

Orders could be parked in the customs for 1 or 2 months, above 22€ we have to pay 8€ + 23% and theres a chance of the product being seized.

I know buying from UK it´s like the double of the price but we have no other choice. Customs really really really sucks.
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What country?
We are working on more international distributors currently.
 
If I ate a nice meal before I won't get any, maybe a little discomfort a hour or 2 later but nothing concerning.
 
brundel said:
There is only 1 formula.
Currently there is no plan to alter it.
Im going to run some tests on the ingredients but as of now there is no plan to make any changes.
So...everything in stock, anywhere is the same.

We have sold thousands of units and only a handful of people have gi issues.
If you compare this to other supps like Arachidonic acid which gives MOST users negative issues like joint pain
or forskolin which causes GI distress for alot of people then the % is very small and the effects are very good.

I do plan on testing reductions in specific ingredients but I wouldnt wait expecting a "new version" as it may not ever exist.

My suggestion for those with sensitive stomachs is take FD2 with food. This seems to alleviate issues for 99%.
Joint pain appears to subside with higher fat intake. Up fish oils, use more EVOO on your salads, macadamia nut oil, flax oil etc.
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brundel said:
What country?
We are working on more international distributors currently.
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Thanks for your great reply. This way i have to decide if i´ll take it or not, makes no sense wait for the potential new formula.

It makes a big difference regarding to absorption/effectiveness if taking it with food?

I live in Portugal. Everything that cames from European Union should be ok.
 
brundel said:
There is only 1 formula.
Currently there is no plan to alter it.
Im going to run some tests on the ingredients but as of now there is no plan to make any changes.
So...everything in stock, anywhere is the same.

We have sold thousands of units and only a handful of people have gi issues.
If you compare this to other supps like Arachidonic acid which gives MOST users negative issues like joint pain
or forskolin which causes GI distress for alot of people then the % is very small and the effects are very good.

I do plan on testing reductions in specific ingredients but I wouldnt wait expecting a "new version" as it may not ever exist.

My suggestion for those with sensitive stomachs is take FD2 with food. This seems to alleviate issues for 99%.
Joint pain appears to subside with higher fat intake. Up fish oils, use more EVOO on your salads, macadamia nut oil, flax oil etc.
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Wow. I'm surprised to read this. I thought it was stated a couple weeks ago that a new version, with less of the offending ingredient, was already in production, and would be used to replenish distributor inventory.
I thought all the questions regarding this were coming from people who haven't kept up with this thread.
 
I don't know of any other companies that would do it. So, why BLR?

Anything with any version/iteration of forskolin and/or choline in it kills my stomach. So, I can relate to not being able to use A LOT of products.
 
So, I decided to go insulin free today, i dropped about 800 or so calories today I have been having absolutely normal blood glucose levels.... I believe I have found my sweet spot as far as calories and FD2 relationship. I am going to go 2 straight days insulin free and see what happens. I know for sure that when I tried this last week I had marginal results with around 4000 calories . I will say I consumed about 3000 today and feel really good.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Thanks for your great reply. This way i have to decide if i´ll take it or not, makes no sense wait for the potential new formula.

It makes a big difference regarding to absorption/effectiveness if taking it with food?

I live in Portugal. Everything that cames from European Union should be ok.
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I think if you take with food everything will be fine.
Alot of the side effects have been the result of things like low blood sugar (lethargy) super high fat metabolism (joint pain) greatly increased absorption (gi issues).

I think it does make a difference with food or not.
I need to look into distributors in Portugal!
 
jmero2 said:
So, I decided to go insulin free today, i dropped about 800 or so calories today I have been having absolutely normal blood glucose levels.... I believe I have found my sweet spot as far as calories and FD2 relationship. I am going to go 2 straight days insulin free and see what happens. I know for sure that when I tried this last week I had marginal results with around 4000 calories . I will say I consumed about 3000 today and feel really good.
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REALLY amazing bro.
Not having to use insulin is a HUGE thing. Super happy FD2 has been able to help.
Insulin has so many negatives...
 
believer said:
Wow. I'm surprised to read this. I thought it was stated a couple weeks ago that a new version, with less of the offending ingredient, was already in production, and would be used to replenish distributor inventory.
I thought all the questions regarding this were coming from people who haven't kept up with this thread.
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We dont know what the offending ingredient is. For starters.
All I can do is run some tests and see if we can isolate. For now 99% of users have no issues and many who do can reduce or eliminate the issues with food timing or fat intake alterations.

And again....LOTS of really good supplements cause minor sides for some people.
 
brundel said:
We dont know what the offending ingredient is. For starters.
All I can do is run some tests and see if we can isolate. For now 99% of users have no issues and many who do can reduce or eliminate the issues with food timing or fat intake alterations.

And again....LOTS of really good supplements cause minor sides for some people.
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Thank you, if people want to b1tch about joint pain when this product is causing PH-like results while being extremely healthy and actually helping your d1ck, then im at a loss for words :)
 
Right....I dont know of many or any natural supps that work this well.
People will take something (a single product) that gives them heart disease, high blood pressure, shuts off their test production, raises estrogen levels, gives them acne, bitch tits, the cholesterol levels of a fat 80 year old and all for a few lbs AND NOT have any complaints or issues taking them.

Something 100% natural that improves your health and is anabolic and burns fat like a torch but gives 1% some farts and a creaky elbow is worth it OMHO.
I would like to cater to everyone and make everyone happy but would you rather me tinker with the FD2 formula and work on trying to eliminate sides for a small percentage of users (may not even be possible anyways as it could be an active causing it)
Or would you rather me be at work finishing our PRe workout product and the handful of other projects in the works?
 
brundel said:
Right....I dont know of many or any natural supps that work this well.
People will take something (a single product) that gives them heart disease, high blood pressure, shuts off their test production, raises estrogen levels, gives them acne, bitch tits, the cholesterol levels of a fat 80 year old and all for a few lbs AND NOT have any complaints or issues taking them.

Something 100% natural that improves your health and is anabolic and burns fat like a torch but gives 1% some farts and a creaky elbow is worth it OMHO.
I would like to cater to everyone and make everyone happy but would you rather me tinker with the FD2 formula and work on trying to eliminate sides for a small percentage of users (may not even be possible anyways as it could be an active causing it)
Or would you rather me be at work finishing our PRe workout product and the handful of other projects in the works?
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I prefer the extra strength, using an AI can cause joint pain, and they dont do anywhere near as much work as this and everyone uses AI's.. it's so silly. Take it with some damn food or with a digestive enzyme and probiotic helped me heaos..
 
brundel said:
Right....I dont know of many or any natural supps that work this well.
People will take something (a single product) that gives them heart disease, high blood pressure, shuts off their test production, raises estrogen levels, gives them acne, bitch tits, the cholesterol levels of a fat 80 year old and all for a few lbs AND NOT have any complaints or issues taking them.

Something 100% natural that improves your health and is anabolic and burns fat like a torch but gives 1% some farts and a creaky elbow is worth it OMHO.
I would like to cater to everyone and make everyone happy but would you rather me tinker with the FD2 formula and work on trying to eliminate sides for a small percentage of users (may not even be possible anyways as it could be an active causing it)
Or would you rather me be at work finishing our PRe workout product and the handful of other projects in the works?
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Now get that damn Incinderine 2.0 out
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Thank you, if people want to b1tch about joint pain when this product is causing PH-like results while being extremely healthy and actually helping your d1ck, then im at a loss for words :)
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Really find comments like this irritating. You're completely diminishing the magnitude and diversity of people's experiences. Everyone's different. Some may find the sides not worth it. Others may not be experiencing the 'PH-like' gains you speak off. it's not 'btiching' if people recount experiences that may differ to yours. It makes you come across like a cheerleader.

I for one have found that X2 at one go is too much for me even with a good meal. 1X3 seems to treat me fine. This was in part due to the advice on this thread based on people sharing their experiences . For some the adjustments may not have worked. If they feel this to be the case and say so it ain't 'bitchin'
 
brundel said:
We dont know what the offending ingredient is. For starters.
All I can do is run some tests and see if we can isolate. For now 99% of users have no issues and many who do can reduce or eliminate the issues with food timing or fat intake alterations.

And again....LOTS of really good supplements cause minor sides for some people.
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I thought you had isolated it and were reducing it. I would have sworn I read it on this thread. My apology.

I'm not letting the possibility of small sides keep me from using.
 
ucheoma said:
Really find comments like this irritating. You're completing diminishing the magnitude and diversity of people's experiences. Everyone's different. Some may find the sides not worth it. Others may not be experiencing the 'PH-like' gains you speak off. it's not 'btiching' if people recount experiences that may differ to yours. It makes you come across like a cheerleader.

I for one have found that X2 at one go is too much for me even with a good meal. 1X3 seems to treat me fine. This was in part due to the advice on this thread based on people sharing their experiences . For some the adjustments may not have worked. If they feel this to be the case and say so it ain't 'bitchin'
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Hey man check you E2 levels!
 
Finally got the chance to pick up 2 bottles, looking forward to seeing what it'll provide. Cautiously optimistic.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Now get that damn Incinderine 2.0 out
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The new incinderine is going to be a thing of beauty. Here is the deal.....we have a new stim and i want to use it but its super expensive so...its either i make a stim only product or use the stim and 1 to 2 other ingredients or 2 products. Super solid fat burner not designed around a stim aaanndd a super strong stim product.
 
brundel said:
The new incinderine is going to be a thing of beauty. Here is the deal.....we have a new stim and i want to use it but its super expensive so...its either i make a stim only product or use the stim and 1 to 2 other ingredients or 2 products. Super solid fat burner not designed around a stim aaanndd a super strong stim product.
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Would you consider using this stim as part of a pre, while also including it as part of the fat burner?
 
believer said:
I thought you had isolated it and were reducing it. I would have sworn I read it on this thread. My apology.

I'm not letting the possibility of small sides keep me from using.
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Im sending samples to several guys from this thread. If i can isolate the culprit and its not a threat to the active formula i may try to alter it. For now....its working fantastically for most.
 
brundel said:
Im sending samples to several guys from this thread. If i can isolate the culprit and its not a threat to the active formula i may try to alter it. For now....its working fantastically for most.
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Me me me! :D lol but I'd like to try a sample, I have a sensitive GI so I may be a good test subject to take fasted.
 
brundel said:
Im sending samples to several guys from this thread. If i can isolate the culprit and its not a threat to the active formula i may try to alter it. For now....its working fantastically for most.
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It makes excellent sense to pause and verify the root cause and the effects of any changes before making any alterations
 
ucheoma said:
It makes excellent sense to pause and verify the root cause and the effects of any changes before making any alterations
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Yes it does, in my line of work we would we would create a cause and effect diagram, refer back to the various FMEA models and based on what we found either create a risk analysis or impact assessment.

I'm an engineer in the biotech industry, sorry to geek out!
 
Looked up Ecklonia Cava on examine.com (examine.com/supplements/ecklonia-cava/), providing some quotes from the author:

"General anti-oxidant and antiinflammatory properties confer neuroprotection against stressors, but nothing appears to be overly novel or potent"
"May reduce blood pressure, but appears to be pretty weak at it"
"Tends to improve the lipid profile, but the potency nothing impressive"
"Either weak or non-existent effects on body fat loss"

Especially the last quote seems to contradict the text in the write-up, but after checking the source (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21717516) it seems that the study does in fact say EPC significantly contributed to reducing body fat. Am I missing something here or does the author on examine.com have no idea what he's writing about?

(Can't link the full http address since I don't have enough posts yet)
 
brundel said:
The new incinderine is going to be a thing of beauty. Here is the deal.....we have a new stim and i want to use it but its super expensive so...its either i make a stim only product or use the stim and 1 to 2 other ingredients or 2 products. Super solid fat burner not designed around a stim aaanndd a super strong stim product.
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Will Incinderine 2.0 be giving Ignit3 a run for its money.
 
brundel said:
Im sending samples to several guys from this thread. If i can isolate the culprit and its not a threat to the active formula i may try to alter it. For now....its working fantastically for most.
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I am one of the users who had to drop my F2 run so I may be a good tester if you still looking. Let me know.
 
Tank999 said:
Would you consider using this stim as part of a pre, while also including it as part of the fat burner?
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I dont think so. When considering stims for a pre workout products vasodilation or constriction must be taken into account and in this case its a vasoconstrictor.
So in a pre we would only use certain types of stims.
It was originally developed for the PRE but because of the vasoconstriction and extremely high price its a no go.
 
ChrisW said:
Looked up Ecklonia Cava on examine.com (examine.com/supplements/ecklonia-cava/), providing some quotes from the author:

"General anti-oxidant and antiinflammatory properties confer neuroprotection against stressors, but nothing appears to be overly novel or potent"
"May reduce blood pressure, but appears to be pretty weak at it"
"Tends to improve the lipid profile, but the potency nothing impressive"
"Either weak or non-existent effects on body fat loss"

Especially the last quote seems to contradict the text in the write-up, but after checking the source (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21717516) it seems that the study does in fact say EPC significantly contributed to reducing body fat. Am I missing something here or does the author on examine.com have no idea what he's writing about?

(Can't link the full http address since I don't have enough posts yet)
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Examine isnt the best source of information.
Instead look at research studies and see for yourself the results.
Instead look at the empirical evidence and accounts displayed in these threads with dozens of users mentioning excessive fat loss even in caloric surplus.
And finally its very important to take into account that there is a vast difference between consuming a small amount of Ecklonia cava seaweed and taking a strong extract or extract standardized for specific chemicals as it then becomes more the chemical in itself and not really comparable.

For example we wouldnt compare a 99% dieckol or seanol extract to plain ecklonia cava. Its very different in action, potency, etc.
Even a strong full spectrum is different.

In this case i disagree with Examine and there is more than enough evidence to support my position. I did my homework on this one, as always, and Im confident 100% in the ingredients.
 
Just finished my first bottle and here are some thoughts. I believe I got the first run and I didn't have any GI issues or joint pain whatsoever. I'm currently in a cut (~13% BF) aiming for 9-10% before bulking again. I am running FD2 solo other than (vitamins, fish oil, non-stim preworkout, and creatine). Fat loss has been steady and on track according to my diet (I track nearly every macro). I can't say FD2 has allowed me to eat more to sustain a loss after experimenting with a higher intake like some others are experiencing. If anything it feels like there is definite GDA like effects after big meals (refeed, cheat, etc…) so it can feel that way. Overall I'm not sure it aided in fat loss enough for me to justify the cost. I have 2 more bottles I will be saving for when I am back in a surplus. My experience so far does tell me it will stand out in a bulk which I'll report back later on. Positive outcomes however has been strength and endurance. I've been doing this long enough to know how my body responds to a deficit and FD2 is definitely helping me in these areas. Strength is still increasing in some lifts and maintaining in others. Endurance is still superb for where I am in my diet (no stims or any caffeine). This is where I'm really excited to see where my lifting will go once paired with a surplus. If it was cheaper I'd keep running it but my supplement funds will have to go to stims/fat burner for the remainder of my cut.
 
brundel said:
Examine isnt the best source of information.
Instead look at research studies and see for yourself the results.
Instead look at the empirical evidence and accounts displayed in these threads with dozens of users mentioning excessive fat loss even in caloric surplus.
And finally its very important to take into account that there is a vast difference between consuming a small amount of Ecklonia cava seaweed and taking a strong extract or extract standardized for specific chemicals as it then becomes more the chemical in itself and not really comparable.

For example we wouldnt compare a 99% dieckol or seanol extract to plain ecklonia cava. Its very different in action, potency, etc.
Even a strong full spectrum is different.

In this case i disagree with Examine and there is more than enough evidence to support my position. I did my homework on this one, as always, and Im confident 100% in the ingredients.
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Thanks for the reply.

I've got great results with laxo + epi transdermals so the new ingredients will be interesting to try out for sure. I ordered FD2 two weeks ago from nutriverse, looks like the package got lost though since there haven't been any new tracking updates the last 10 days, so might be a while before i try it (no refund for lost packages :( ). Would love to see more supplements like these in the EU (we have 0 supplements with Epi or laxo in Sweden), it's a hassle to order from the US with 25% vat, + customs fee + lost deliveries.
 
ChrisW said:
Thanks for the reply.

I've got great results with laxo + epi transdermals so the new ingredients will be interesting to try out for sure. I ordered FD2 two weeks ago from nutriverse, looks like the package got lost though since there haven't been any new tracking updates the last 10 days, so might be a while before i try it (no refund for lost packages :( ). Would love to see more supplements like these in the EU (we have 0 supplements with Epi or laxo in Sweden), it's a hassle to order from the US with 25% vat, + customs fee + lost deliveries.
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Some of my orders from nutri-verse have taken 12-15 working days to arrive, also the tracking did not update until item had been delivered.
 
I get all BLR products from TGB Supps. For me, it never takes more than 4 business days to have my order in my hands. Sometimes only 2 days. Highly recommend.
 
ChrisW said:
Thanks for the reply.

I've got great results with laxo + epi transdermals so the new ingredients will be interesting to try out for sure. I ordered FD2 two weeks ago from nutriverse, looks like the package got lost though since there haven't been any new tracking updates the last 10 days, so might be a while before i try it (no refund for lost packages :( ). Would love to see more supplements like these in the EU (we have 0 supplements with Epi or laxo in Sweden), it's a hassle to order from the US with 25% vat, + customs fee + lost deliveries.
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I don't mean to hijack this thread but it has been stated numerous times that weather in the EU or the UK, you just don't have access to supplements as we do in the US. Why is that? Paying all these extra charges and having packages lost or seized at customs is strange to me. Why doesn't some smart investor open a supplement chain? It seems there is a demand that's for sure.
I'll move to Sweden !!!
 
believer said:
I don't mean to hijack this thread but it has been stated numerous times that weather in the EU or the UK, you just don't have access to supplements as we do in the US. Why is that? Paying all these extra charges and having packages lost or seized at customs is strange to me. Why doesn't some smart investor open a supplement chain? It seems there is a demand that's for sure.
I'll move to Sweden !!!
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Laws and regulations.
 
M.I.D said:
Not many companies stock american stuff, its purely down to access I imagine.

There is companies in the uk that sell some american stuff but its too expensive.
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That's because of the regulations, cheaper to outsource to the US but not vice versa. Also banning of certain compunds and ingredients too.
 
brundel said:
Right....I dont know of many or any natural supps that work this well.
People will take something (a single product) that gives them heart disease, high blood pressure, shuts off their test production, raises estrogen levels, gives them acne, bitch tits, the cholesterol levels of a fat 80 year old and all for a few lbs AND NOT have any complaints or issues taking them.

Something 100% natural that improves your health and is anabolic and burns fat like a torch but gives 1% some farts and a creaky elbow is worth it OMHO.
I would like to cater to everyone and make everyone happy but would you rather me tinker with the FD2 formula and work on trying to eliminate sides for a small percentage of users (may not even be possible anyways as it could be an active causing it)
Or would you rather me be at work finishing our PRe workout product and the handful of other projects in the works?
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For me it's much more than a creaky elbow. My joints hurt so bad that I can't lift enough to take full advantage of FD2. My thoughts are that if the offending compounds (absorption package) can be lowered to fix joint pain, while still retaining the positives, then that would be an easy fix and everyone would be happy. Why have a great hormone alternative that causes bad joint pain and gastro issues, when you could easily have one with zero sides? Seems like a good way to keep customers, rather than having them switch to running EC solo in order to remedy joint and abdominal pain.
 
CJNator said:
That's because of the regulations, cheaper to outsource to the US but not vice versa. Also banning of certain compunds and ingredients too.
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Could be some of the reasons but i don´t think it´s the main ones.

I think it´s because, unfortunately, theres a lack of information here about those kind of products.

At least, here where i live, almost everyone buys CLA´s and L-Carnitine to fat loss, Tribulus and some other junk to lean mass gains, and so one.

Almost no one already heard about the kind of the supplements discussed here in AM. For all the people i talk to, i honestly can say i only know one (yes, one) friend that is aware of this kind of supplements too. Everyone else, burns money in supplements that doesn´t work at all.

Why? First of all, i don´t know a single store in my country that sells this kind of products and importing them from outside of EU it´s a pain... And second, theres a strong marketing from the biggest stores to sell the other junk. Maybe they have more profit, i don´t know.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Could be some of the reasons but i don´t think it´s the main ones.

I think it´s because, unfortunately, theres a lack of information here about those kind of products.

At least, here where i live, almost everyone buys CLA´s and L-Carnitine to fat loss, Tribulus and some other junk to lean mass gains, and so one.

Almost no one already heard about the kind of the supplements discussed here in AM. For all the people i talk to, i honestly can say i only know one (yes, one) friend that is aware of this kind of supplements too. Everyone else, burns money in supplements that doesn´t work at all.

Why? First of all, i don´t know a single store in my country that sells this kind of products and importing them from outside of EU it´s a pain... And second, theres a strong marketing from the biggest stores to sell the other junk. Maybe they have more profit, i don´t know.
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I would say that goes the same for most of the world, even the us. But here(the us) we have just enough educated supplement buyers, that are pushing innovation for supps that actually work.
 
Update, I know it's only been a few days, I'm at 2 and a half weeks but these last few days have been incredible. I feel like it's fully kicked in now, I've broke a squat PR and a bench PR this week. I'm definitely sold on another bottle at this point. Any benefit on running laxogenin with this?
 
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