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Wow, thanks for sharing that!
Donald Trump running for president
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Wow, thanks for sharing that!
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Food for thought
Food for thought
bighulksmash
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Was this before or after op golden eagle ?
jimbuick
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Wasn't OEF during the Obama years?
Socalmk6gti
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During yes, can't remember what year it began though. Isn't it still going? I think OIF - Operarion Iraqi Freedom was during Bush Jr's years and trickled into Obamas, not sure if OEF did the same. I though OEF started post 9/11 which would have been Bush
jimbuick
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I have no idea if they are renaming them tbh.
Looks like OEF was the original name given in '01 though. Who was president when you deployed?
Socalmk6gti
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The worst one....President Hope
jswain34
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People dont want to risk terrorists coming into our country, people dont want to risk people of the opposite gender in the bathroom with our daughters and wives, and people dont want to be defenseless against the nutjobs with guns.
We're trying to protect the things we care about. Simple as that.
I'm also not a raging Republican either, so dont pull that card. Im all for helping good people by giving them somewhere to live and also better enforcement of the CURRENT gun regulations. And honestly, I don't know where to go about the transgender bathroom thing. I'm not for restricting American's rights (trans community), but im also not for letting grown men into the girl's bathroom.
jimbuick
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If you are born a man, and truly identify as a woman you shouldn't even have male genitals so it should not be an issue.
Guys that do not get sex change surgery to remove their genitals are not trans, they are just cross dressing men and should use a men's restroom.
If you've had sex change surgery, and the hormone replacement therapy that comes with it, then you are a woman and should use the women's room.
Guys that do not get sex change surgery to remove their genitals are not trans, they are just cross dressing men and should use a men's restroom.
If you've had sex change surgery, and the hormone replacement therapy that comes with it, then you are a woman and should use the women's room.
ax1
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They still have male chromosomes. They are man till death.
If I get my skin tattoo'd black, can I get better financial aid to go back to college since I am now a minority? Dont be racist and hate on black people such as myself.
ax1
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Its not talked about on mainstream media, but these "refugees" have certainly caused alot of chaos all around europe.
ax1
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Well, if your a woman and see an apple on the neck call the cops. Get pictures of the dude and then the police can slam his ass to the ground and then that slinkeyless dude can blow bubbles in jail, mens jail that is.
Socalmk6gti
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You're white privileged and don't understand how hard it is to live in America...
Lololol. I love this retort. Know what I color the Army sees? Green! Know what color the marines see? Brown! Navy? Blue. No color discrimination. I just got out of school full time and know what? The school only cared about who paid their financial dues, put in the work, and got verified. I'm so tired of this white privileged bullsh***. Work hard and you will succeed, no matter what damn color you are
LiftWithDonuts
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Had a super long thing typed out, closed out of the app to reply to a text came back and the what i typed was deleted. Paraphrasing, gun regulations in the south are a joke, I'll post two pictures with the numbers of incidents of misuse of firearms. Everything has gone up except home invasion gun use and defensive gun use. Ill post a link about how many incidents that there have been about men using females bathrooms and any kind of assault happening(3 incidents in 17 years in the US.) The refugees thing, you can't only think that terrorist that exist that want to cause hard to the US live in Syria. To be honest, I'm more concerned with domestic terrorism which seems to be happening pretty frequently but that's besides the point. Invalid Link Removed 2016 so far
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LiftWithDonuts
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Oh man, no offense but the army is a different world than everyday life in the states, I'm sure you can understand. Please elaborate on how you haven't seen any privilege due to skin color? Are you just ignoring things like separate but equal and the systematic effect it has on our society today? Or nah.
jswain34
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I just said, from the few things i've read, we don't enforce the current regulations well enough so what you said on that proves nothing to me.
When immigration into the US was the highest, we weren't shooting up movie theaters or elementary schools and on the verge of a race war triggered by the media. What's going on inside this country is crazy right now and in no way are we stable enough to bring in a large amount of people that we think have a chance of terrorizing more. I understand what is going on over there is undeniably horrible, but we are too much of a mess ourselves to take that on too. And i dont think that only people from Syria want to terrorize America only that a dense population of the potential ones that do want to come here.
When immigration into the US was the highest, we weren't shooting up movie theaters or elementary schools and on the verge of a race war triggered by the media. What's going on inside this country is crazy right now and in no way are we stable enough to bring in a large amount of people that we think have a chance of terrorizing more. I understand what is going on over there is undeniably horrible, but we are too much of a mess ourselves to take that on too. And i dont think that only people from Syria want to terrorize America only that a dense population of the potential ones that do want to come here.
LiftWithDonuts
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What regulations are you referring to exactly?
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Well, these have been where 3 or more have been shot at once so it's not like a recent thing, from what I understand in 2013 the US hit a record number of immigrants coming to the states, which just so happen to be the year that of the sandy hook shooting, which wasn't done by an immigrant. Take on what too? The war between the Sunni and Shiites?
Aleksandar37
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I lived in Chicago for 37 years and have now lived in Dallas for about 3. Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws and yet regularly breaks records for gun homicides. Living in Dallas where you can pretty much do whatever you want with a gun, I feel way safer! Sure there are gun homicides here too, but watch the Chicago news and the Dallas news on a Monday morning and tell me which one is talking about how 30 people got killed or injured from gunfire over the weekend including several small children. I'm with you. There is a huge problem, but I feel like people are putting their energy in the wrong direction. I don't know what the answer is, but more laws doesn't seem to be helping.
ax1
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Instead of guns, they should be regulating psychotropic drugs that have been on a dramatic rise which most of these mass shooters are on. Most of these mass shootings take place in gun free zones. As far as gang violence which accounts for many of the mass shootings, let them kill each-other.
Im against what jswain34 has to offer....I say not lets enforce the gun laws we already currently have, but lets dramatically get government from infringing on our 2nd Amendment rights and get our true natural gun rights back so people can defend themselves not only from these psychopaths and gangsters, but these "terrorists" they keep preaching are so dangerous they need to literally destroy our Bill of Rights and Constitution from on in exchange for the false sense of government protection.
ax1
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Chicago should follow the new Detroit model where the police chief came out and encouraged the people to go out and get a gun since police cant be there to protect them and watch the violence in Chicago drop just like it did in Detroit.
Aleksandar37
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Aleksandar37
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A huge conflict that I see is a lot of the same people who are in favor of universal bathrooms like Target is doing are the same people that keep talking about rape culture. I'm not taking a side with this post. I just don't see how you can talk about rape culture and think that opening secluded spots like bathrooms up to everybody is a good idea.
Socalmk6gti
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How can I elaborate on how I haven't seen any privilege being white? I worked my ass off In high school, worked over 12 years construction; waking up at 3:30am at work by 5am and home by 3:30pm. Spent 6 years in the national guard and did a tour in Afghanistan as a Cav Scout providing over watch to the Air Force and Army for a joint task force. Went back to school and now work in Network Administration.
My color didn't get up every day for 12 years at 3:30am, my color didn't put his life on the line for his country, my color didn't give 110% in all schooling. My bills come to my name, not my color. I am honored to be where I am in life, but it didn't come easy and I have never once NEVER ONCE thought "damn life is good because of my white privileges". Oh and my wife was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. legally, put herself through school and became a citizen in 2011 and couldn't be more proud to be an American Citizen. I know what hard work looks like, and it doesn't have a color.
ax1
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Doesnt make sense to decriminalize men from going into womens rooms, then you get raging lunatics that take advantage of the situation like in Seattle the other day.
I am certainly for Gun laws and bathroom laws. If you use a gun illegally to hurt people of course they should be arrested along with sick freak perverts that want to go into a womens room for a cheap thrill.
ax1
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Here is a good law, go in a womens room and get shot legally if a women chooses too.
Thats the problem with predators, they know they are safe when they know they are alone with women in a gun free zone inside a room where men arent. Watch the issue dramatically decrease when government stop stripping women's 2nd amendment rights to defend themselves and predators start getting caps in their azz.
RegisterJr
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You really can't use bathroom incident stats over any amount of time to push the case having unisex bathrooms. In the past it's been very hard to not notice a male going into a women's restroom. Making it acceptable for males to go in opens that door up.
+1 for a restroom for penises and a restroom for vaginas. Poor Obama wouldn't know which one to choose...
+1 for a restroom for penises and a restroom for vaginas. Poor Obama wouldn't know which one to choose...
ax1
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Aleksandar37
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Adam's apples can get shaved down too lol. And women have one. It just doesn't tend to enlarge at puberty like ours.
ax1
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Damn....we need to think of something.
Have you ever seen Inglorious Bastards when that dude from Italy was going around catching and tattooing Nazi's in the forehead with a swastika?
I think I have a new hobby brewing, lol j/k
LiftWithDonuts
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How can I elaborate on how I haven't seen any privilege being white? I worked my ass off In high school, worked over 12 years construction; waking up at 3:30am at work by 5am and home by 3:30pm. Spent 6 years in the national guard and did a tour in Afghanistan as a Cav Scout providing over watch to the Air Force and Army for a joint task force. Went back to school and now work in Network Administration.
My color didn't get up every day for 12 years at 3:30am, my color didn't put his life on the line for his country, my color didn't give 110% in all schooling. My bills come to my name, not my color. I am honored to be where I am in life, but it didn't come easy and I have never once NEVER ONCE thought "damn life is good because of my white privileges". Oh and my wife was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. legally, put herself through school and became a citizen in 2011 and couldn't be more proud to be an American Citizen. I know what hard work looks like, and it doesn't have a color.
Thank you for serving, but all your saying is how you didn't personally deal with or care to notice any privilege and that's your case of why there is not white privilege in the US. You can either go to the link I'm about to post or choose to ignore that too. Invalid Link Removed
But hey it shouldn't be to much to understand how our country's history of discriminatory and racist laws has an effect of modern culture and society, Right?
Socalmk6gti
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I don't know you, and I hope we can continue to keep things civil but in the last few pages you have asked more questions without much contribution. I don't know your ethnicity and it doesn't really matter to me, but it feels like (from where I sit on my computer or phone, judging a persons opinion based on a text on a screen) that your goal is only to instigate. Your posts that I've read in here come across one sided and judgmental, so maybe you have experienced some racially fueled adversity. You're here and alive and you are making your own life, so I commend you (if that's the case) for taking control and not letting anyone keep you from your dreams. If you do have any resentment towards a race for possible discrimination, know that I'm not your enemy.
ax1
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This isnt the 1800's and 60's any more, time to move on.
ax1
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Life is hard but America is the least racist country on the planet. People need to stop race bating and unite, the government is tooling with all of us and fueling racial wars and fighting with our cops. These are all tools so we lose focus on who our real enemy is, and by that I dont mean everyone in government but those who tool and play with society like Obama and Hitlery.
ax1
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The big government policies you support give ownership of black people to government, its very hypocritical for you to even try to defend black people.
LiftWithDonuts
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I'm just a white dude who grew up poor in South Georgia. In no way do I have any resentment towards any race. It's just that I've seen the racial divide to much growing up to be able to say that there isn't any racial benefit to not being on the tail end of a racially influenced justice and economic system. Hey man, I started this thread, maybe I contribute some that you see as an instigation attempt but it keeps the thread alive and the diversity of conversation there. No conversation quite as boring as 10 people all agreeing with each other.
LiftWithDonuts
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Codster951
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Way to young
Socalmk6gti
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ax1
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Id list Obama as a successful black man, but he only half black and worse off cousins with Dick Cheney so that dont count.
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ax1
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I dont believe he is Kenyan though, I dont think that was his real father. Muslim possibly yes, hard to say but he probably picked that up when he was in Indonesia as a little boy.
I think that the reason he released that fake photoshopped birth certificate is to cover up who his real father is which is his mother's porno photographer "Frank" who he mentions as his mentor in his biography.
Frank Marshall Davis was a communist in Hawaii on a FBI watch list (think the cold war at that time) who also happened to move to Chicago and Obama mentions he moved to Chicago to be closer to his mentor and he specifically called him Frank.
Now, to make a long story short, Obama's grandfather was CIA and having some commie impregnate his daughter just didnt look good, so they used that Kenyan as a part of the cover up. Notice how that dude barely was in her life too.
Anyways Ill cut it there some food for thought, another time Ill get into his stepfather's life who was a Exxon executive and also a general for one of the most brutal dictators of the past 100 years and took part in genocid in East Timor,
But wow....Obama certainly has an extensive background, when I voted for him back in '08 (sorry about that, lol) I thought he just was some cool dude who started as a community organizer.
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Took me about 4-5 months in to realize he lied about all his campaign promises and that he was full of crap the entire time. Thats why Im so personal about him, that dude stole my vote, its my fault but what a used sleezy car salesman he is.