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Latest sleep/gh product?

hvactech

hvactech

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Tried a few.... BSL growth, prime sleep, ANS Diablo pm.... Anything new on the market that looks promising?
 
Growth Factor XT is solid.

I also use KSM-66 + Relora + ZMA when I'm not using Growth Factor XT. Tried and true. I throw l dopa in every so often
 
Growth Factor XT may be worth looking into if you haven't used it before.

I also like to use ZMA and Relora pre bed
 
SNS GROWTH FACTOR is legit! Find it here at NP!

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Try this one as its getting some good response
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IML's Dream N Grow is pretty good. There's some more info at the link below
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As far as "GH", only MK-677 will work (talking semi-easy obtainable orals) IMO. All the Safed Musli/L-Dopa combo products (et. al.) are going off of one extremely weak "study" where 2-4 of 15-17 (I forget the exact details) participants actually had an increase. Other data suggests that the body is stingy with GH as well - If you increase it with 3g of GABA pre-heavy-training (<- Yes, will work), the 24 hour AUC is less - the body compensates later in the day with smaller releases.
 
TruZMA +1g GABA +KSM66.

TAKE ALONG WITH MK677, and you will have the best sleep of your life
 
The_Old_Guy said:
As far as "GH", only MK-677 will work (talking semi-easy obtainable orals) IMO. All the Safed Musli/L-Dopa combo products (et. al.) are going off of one extremely weak "study" where 2-4 of 15-17 (I forget the exact details) participants actually had an increase. Other data suggests that the body is stingy with GH as well - If you increase it with 3g of GABA pre-heavy-training (<- Yes, will work), the 24 hour AUC is less - the body compensates later in the day with smaller releases.
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Trust me I know it doesn't actually increase gh levels but they do relax me and increase my sleep quality
 
Revivarant G from APS is wicked strong if you want to sleep for days
 
I'd go with Growth Factor XT!. MK677 would be overkill if all you want is better sleep. Plus whenever I've read about it, people are always saying it bloats you up really bad for some reason and lethargy is almost unbearable. It's not something I'd ever mess with. I'd be scared of something that knocks you out that hard too. Sometimes you have to wake up in the middle of the night. If you need to for some reason and don't, the results could be disastrous.
 
hvactech said:
Tried a few.... BSL growth, prime sleep, ANS Diablo pm.... Anything new on the market that looks promising?
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Are you a fan of Phenibut? I use Formutech Nutrition REM 8.0 a few times a week. Good stuff, but if you're not a Phenibut fan it's probably not for you.

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TexasLifter89 said:
Are you a fan of Phenibut? I use Formutech Nutrition REM 8.0 a few times a week. Good stuff, but if you're not a Phenibut fan it's probably not for you.

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I forgot about that one, I used pheni religiously at one point.. Hmmm REM sounds like a good log :)
 
hvactech said:
I forgot about that one, I used pheni religiously at one point.. Hmmm REM sounds like a good log :)
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Dude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Dude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
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We still do!
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Dude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
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Growth factor xt also has gotten some great feedback for sleep (sometimes even too much ha)
 
just picked up some I-gh-1 from lg sciences, I didn't even know they still made it, but that stuff was amazing....I'm weird with sleep supplements, a lot of them have the opposite effect on me and keep me awake
 
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I've read it's very very strong. Dosage tips, days on/off, just basically stuff that you may have picked up along the way.
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Yeah man it is very strong. Honestly I think I'd go with REM 8.0 and see how a single scoop treats you. I can talk about it all day because I love it :)

I typically use it only like 3 times a week to avoid tolerance and Phenibut sides. I dose 30-45 min pre-bed.
 
My go to has been Out Cold.. helps me fall asleep but it shines for me at keeping me asleep and making my 5-6 hours feel more like 7 hours of sleep.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Yeah man it is very strong. Honestly I think I'd go with REM 8.0 and see how a single scoop treats you. I can talk about it all day because I love it :)

I typically use it only like 3 times a week to avoid tolerance and Phenibut sides. I dose 30-45 min pre-bed.
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I agree. I use use it around once or twice a week. I only end up needing half a scoop or sometimes even less depending how long my day was. I recent did a youtube video last week. I use a sleep tracker app on my phone. 5/3/1 Bench day I bombed on my 1 rep set. I had a 70ish % sleep quality without REM that night. Next night I used a scoop of REM and woke up with a 98% sleep quality and I hit a 10lb Squat PR.
 
I just got done doing 30 days of 1-GH by Innovapharm (MK-677), and let me tell you, it BLEW my mind how great I slept and recovered. Super top-notch delivery system to set it apart from the other MK-677/Ibutamoren products on the market. I legitimately had multiple dreams every night I took it and woke up refreshed and recovered. It's a must try!
 
Growth factor XT

Ive seen people complaint that they sleep too much on it ( I didn't knew there was such a thing )
 
GQNemesis said:
Growth factor XT

Ive seen people complaint that they sleep too much on it ( I didn't knew there was such a thing )
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Omg too much sleep is horrible. Sometimes these things work too well for us folk lol
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Dude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
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Still do , love the stuff myself .. I use it when im not using Growth factorXT

Phenibut XT is one of my fav relaxing supplement
 
GQNemesis said:
Growth factor XT

Ive seen people complaint that they sleep too much on it ( I didn't knew there was such a thing )
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It's a bad thing when you work out in the morning......it's a tough battle. Man, I had such great sleep....but I missed a workout. Leaves me with mixed feelings.

Also, suggestions:
L-Theanine + 5-HTP + Relora
SNS Growth Factor XT
 
NurseGray said:
I agree. I use use it around once or twice a week. I only end up needing half a scoop or sometimes even less depending how long my day was. I recent did a youtube video last week. I use a sleep tracker app on my phone. 5/3/1 Bench day I bombed on my 1 rep set. I had a 70ish % sleep quality without REM that night. Next night I used a scoop of REM and woke up with a 98% sleep quality and I hit a 10lb Squat PR.
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Off topic but how does an iPhone app track your sleep. I'm assuming you have a Fitbit or the like?

Jiigzz said:
Growth Factor XT may be worth looking into if you haven't used it before.

I also like to use ZMA and Relora pre bed
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What dosage of Relora?
 
Woody said:
Off topic but how does an iPhone app track your sleep. I'm assuming you have a Fitbit or the like?
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Look up "Zeo Headband" - I hear that thing is nice. They went belly up (IP has been re-purchased) but can still be found on eBay, and Steve Gibson (computer security guy who is into sleep tracking) has some stuff for it.
 
I've been cutting pretty hard and, as usual around this point, my sleep quality has taken a nose dive. Usually I just suck it up, but I think this time I want to try and supp it up instead. (Sleep hygiene, meditation, etc., has not helped much)

Anybody know where I can find Sleephoria? Science and profile look amazing.

I'll likely try Growth Factor in the mean time. Though I'm concerned that two of my heaviest days, I'm training until 9pm, eat around 10, and get to bed aboot 11. Is a big post wo meal gonna muck with these?
 
I haven't tried IML Dream N Grow yet, but it's on my shopping list!


That Revivarant G sounds interesting too!
 
See if you can find anything stronger than this product. haha

- LGI Night Train
Knockout Punch

2-bromo melatonin 500mcg
Bioperine (absorption) 10mg
Safranal (saffron Extract) 50mg
5-Hydroxytryptophan 75mg
Kopsia haianensis 100mg
4(pyridine-3carbonylyamino) picamilon 150mg
Withania Somnifera extract 250mg
Valerian root 300mg
Magnolia bark extract 300mg
L-Tryptophan 500mg
Passion Flower 500mg
Phenibut 4-amino-3-phenylbutyric acid 500mg
macuna pruries extract (L-Dopa 98%) 730mg
gamma-Aminobutyric acid GABA 1000mg
 
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