Can high protein diet and completely low carbs in weeks can make someone lose body fa

Not necessarily.

There is much more to it than that.

A high protein diet includes more than just carbs and protein. You have fats and fibers to worry about as well.

With that said and this being a short response..
Yes, theoretically it can... But a high protein diet needs exercise.

Try it out, if it does work great, if not.. Look into carb cycling. That is a great way to shock the body!
 
JG93 said:
Not necessarily.

There is much more to it than that.

A high protein diet includes more than just carbs and protein. You have fats and fibers to worry about as well.

With that said and this being a short response..
Yes, theoretically it can... But a high protein diet needs exercise.

Try it out, if it does work great, if not.. Look into carb cycling. That is a great way to shock the body!
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Why would it "need" exercise
 
JG93 said:
Well a high protein diet has a fair amount of fats in it.
Jump on a high protein diet and do nothing.
It will most definitely lead to more weight
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You seem to enjoy making assumptions. Google "protein sparing modified fast" and get back to us.
 
toddmuelheim said:
You seem to enjoy making assumptions. Google "protein sparing modified fast" and get back to us.
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Eating protein does not make you gain weight. However, because protein-rich food isn't calorie-free, eating it in excess will lead to weight gain. To prevent that protein from settling as fat, monitor your total calorie intake and cut down if necessary.

So essentially; a high protein diet needs exercise to keep the process from happening. It is pretty much common sense. If you want to insinuate me making "assumption," spend a little more time doing research.

Me schooling you in how protein breaks down and or how it settles is not going to make much of a difference.
 
JG93 said:
Eating protein does not make you gain weight. However, because protein-rich food isn't calorie-free, eating it in excess will lead to weight gain. To prevent that protein from settling as fat, monitor your total calorie intake and cut down if necessary.

So essentially; a high protein diet needs exercise to keep the process from happening. It is pretty much common sense. If you want to insinuate me making "assumption," spend a little more time doing research.

Me schooling you in how protein breaks down and or how it settles is not going to make much of a difference.
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Each word you type makes you seem more ignorant. You could go on a psmf for a couple weeks, live a practically sedentary lifestyle and still lose weight. Idk why the mechanism by which protein breaks down is relevant to this conversation at all. But thank you for your contributions to the board and may you live a fruitful and blessed life.
 
Can high protein diet and completely low carbs in weeks can make someone lose...

toddmuelheim said:
Each word you type makes you seem more ignorant. You could go on a psmf for a couple weeks, live a practically sedentary lifestyle and still lose weight. Idk why the mechanism by which protein breaks down is relevant to this conversation at all. But thank you for your contributions to the board and may you live a fruitful and blessed life.
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Well I would say the way protein breaks down is pretty much what people need to understand in this case...
He isn't talking about a PSMF diet.
Not to mention, if you research the diet you are speaking of, there is more to it.

He is asking a cut and dry question. I assume you've been on the board long enough to realize, most people that ask questions in this nature.. Don't delve to deep into diets that ARENT cut and dry.

Your not wrong, I'm not saying that. But if you read his question, and give him logical information.. What I provided is factual, easy to understand, easy to research and follow.

I'm sorry I'm "ignorant" for providing useful information. I knew i must be ignorant when I started delving into nutrition. So dumb of me to get a bachelors...

On any hand, if you need help.. Don't hesitate to ask. I will most definitely give you ignorant answers!
 
Jonatan if you need any help or any answers let us know, I'm sorry I got off subject! Don't want to fill your thread with trash.
Good luck to you!
 
And my reference to psmf was for you, when you made a blanket statement that protein foods are inherently high in fat. I am proud of your accomplishments. We shall now join forces like pee wee Herman and large Marge and help our friend. Smile at the world today.
 
Turkey, chicken, tuna... Swimming in fat obviously. And don't get me started on those lard filled whey isolate protein powders :-P

Quick Google chicken breast - around 3.6 g fat to 31g protein.
 
A high protien diet needs to have a high amount of fats in it to replace some of the carb energy that's missing. Obviously a chicken breast or piece of tuna by itself wouldn't be high in fat on its own...
 
the amount of stupidity being spewed in this thread is nearing epic proportions...

OP, listed to toddmuelheim. a PSMF which is inherently low fat and carb (which is what you mentioned) is near guaranteed to cause pretty substantial weight loss, if no reason other than water and glycogen. Most likely it will cause a good deal of fat loss as well.
 
JG93 said:
Well a high protein diet has a fair amount of fats in it.
Jump on a high protein diet and do nothing.
It will most definitely lead to more weight
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Nope

A high protein intakes is actually less likely to result in weight gain
 
ryox82 said:
A high protien diet needs to have a high amount of fats in it to replace some of the carb energy that's missing. Obviously a chicken breast or piece of tuna by itself wouldn't be high in fat on its own...
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Huh??
 
JudoJosh said:
I did.

You are wrong.... and continually moving the goal post, but wrong nonetheless
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I'm definitely not wrong.
Lol, your funny.

If you think a high protein diet... Will lead to increase weight loss, without proper excercise, you my friend... Are wrong.
The goalpost has not moved. It is very simple. Just as the question. He didn't elude to anything special, so I didn't either.
 
JG93 said:
I'm definitely not wrong.
Lol, your funny.

If you think a high protein diet... Will lead to increase weight loss, without proper excercise, you my friend... Are wrong.
The goalpost has not moved. It is very simple. Just as the question. He didn't elude to anything special, so I didn't either.
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Why does protein "need" exercise?
 
JG93 said:
Well a high protein diet has a fair amount of fats in it.
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- wrong
JG93 said:
Jump on a high protein diet and do nothing. It will most definitely lead to more weight
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- wrong. its been shown that high protein (protein only - which is what he asked about) will NOT lead to weight gain... AS YOU EVEN STATED YOURSELF BELOW!

JG93 said:
Eating protein does not make you gain weight.
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but then you went on to say this:
JG93 said:
However, because protein-rich food isn't calorie-free, eating it in excess will lead to weight gain. To prevent that protein from settling as fat, monitor your total calorie intake and cut down if necessary.
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which is directly opposite of the last sentence... So, you're making no sense

JG93 said:
So essentially; a high protein diet needs exercise to keep the process from happening.
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- This is also untrue and there's literally opposing proof.
JG93 said:
It is pretty much common sense.
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- apparently not, or you have no common sense.

JG93 said:
Me schooling you in how protein breaks down and or how it settles is not going to make much of a difference.
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- if only because you have no clue what you're talking about...
 
booneman77 said:
- wrong
- wrong. its been shown that high protein (protein only - which is what he asked about) will NOT lead to weight gain... AS YOU EVEN STATED YOURSELF BELOW!



but then you went on to say this:

which is directly opposite of the last sentence... So, you're making no sense

- This is also untrue and there's literally opposing proof.
- apparently not, or you have no common sense.

- if only because you have no clue what you're talking about...
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You quoted me wrong in one of those posts FYI.

If I'm wrong, science is wrong... Simple as that lol.
Look at how a high protein diet is set up. Then look at how protein DOES convert to fat if not used. THEN and ONLY then, go back and read my original statement.

I'm not gonna argue with naysayers because they are naysayers. I can provide factual proof and your still gonna tell me I'm wrong. Wasting my time arguing.
Hope you gentlemen have a wonderful day!
 
Ooh look -
healthyeating.sfgate.com/can-protein-cause-fat-6573.html
Hmm, can't post links, stick the htt... Bit I'm front.

"However, body fat increased uniformly across all test groups, which led researchers to conclude that excess calories are responsible for fat gain rather than excess protein."
 
And -
.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/protein-will-not-make-you-fat
Dubdubdub that one

"You can pretty much eat as much protein as you want and it won't turn to fat."
 
JG93 said:
You quoted me wrong in one of those posts FYI.

If I'm wrong, science is wrong... Simple as that lol.
Look at how a high protein diet is set up. Then look at how protein DOES convert to fat if not used. THEN and ONLY then, go back and read my original statement.

I'm not gonna argue with naysayers because they are naysayers. I can provide factual proof and your still gonna tell me I'm wrong. Wasting my time arguing.
Hope you gentlemen have a wonderful day!
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Not sure you actually know the science here

While a pathway does exist where fatty acis can be synthesized from aminos, there is a lacking of literature which would support the assertion that excess protein will result in increased fatty acid synthesis and storage.
 
And for the record, no "factual proof" was provided by you
 
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Recent paper that is relevant
 
lost doesnt fully describe this lol

one thing to remember, you might need to add some fiber
 
I skipped around this post and I'm tired but I hate talk about science and facts on topics that are individual to a persons response to what ever they do being training, diet or drugs ect. Op if you wanna find out if the diet is gonna work then start doing it and in a few weeks you will know the answer to your question.
 
Well we can't discuss the science of nutrition as each individual responds differently?
So that means we can't discuss science around exercise or supplements too right?

OK, close all threads except the 'what I did this weekend ' one.
 
Sorry wasn't trying to hurt anyone s feelings. My point was that ppl start a thread asking a simple question and then ppl respond with a bunch of stuff that does nothing for the op.
 
To be fair, op asked if a high protein low carb diet could be used to lose weight. There was then a 'discussion' about whether high protein diets were actually likely to cause a gain in fat.

Can't help that happening if we're not all in perfect agreement on the answer can you.

The odd insult or video stops the subject matter from becoming boring :-D
 
like to see what rich piano is doing
 
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