Donald Trump running for president

Oppressive ideologies create enemies. Which is why we need such a big military. Keep intervening in worldly affairs furthering the problem. Creating the problem. i.e. ISIS. You've been sold the notion that we need to fight wars to be "free" here at home. What a sham. We are slaves to this war. Sure people die in war, that goes without saying. And the people who go are brave enough to put their lives on the line, not me. But the idea that we need this to be free is the only way they'll get the martyrs to do it.
 
It cracks me up when people thats never been to war, say things like sending citizens to die in an endless war. It high lights the fact that they have no clue what they are talking about. War doesn't affect these people in a why that changes their daily life so they see no point in it. There are missions going on everyday overseas that do cost lives so that most Americans can stay home in their little bubble and not give a damn. progressive leaders look only to make the military smaller and weaker. They will keep doing this until a day comes we're not prepared for an attack and one will come. Which that would be something, might take something like a war on USA soil to stop retarded arguments between the parties. As for the race I don't think any of them are great choices. Livable wage, this will do nothing for no one. 15 bucks a hour to work at Mc D's is retarded, prices on every thing will shot up until that 15 dollars a hour does as little for you as what rate it is now. Low level entry jobs that don't pay much are not meant to be long term full time jobs for adults making a living for a family. I do agree a spot light needs to be put on corporate greed. RLTW!!!

It's a shame that you want to send more troops over to possibly die. You want more war, good for you. Im not anti military by any means I'm just anti bull**** wars. I'm also against "carpet bombing" an entire area to take out a select few. With the amount of money we give the military you'd think some kind of strategy would be used, not just "bomb the hell out of them".

You agree that we need to put a spotlight on corporate greed, but don't think our citizens working 40 hours a week deserve to not live in poverty. if they are so poor from working 40 hours a week and want more get an education, if you can't afford an education, get a loan, a lot of loans. No matter if you have a job post graduation or not gonna be laying off massive loans/interest. If you want "free" education go risk your life and go fight a bull**** war. Goes the same with "free" healthcare.

Let's keep allowing the corporations to keep rolling in billions and billions of dollars and snub the public while we watch our brothers and sisters starve.

But you're against corporate greed.
 
It cracks me up when people thats never been to war, say things like sending citizens to die in an endless war. It high lights the fact that they have no clue what they are talking about. War doesn't affect these people in a why that changes their daily life so they see no point in it. There are missions going on everyday overseas that do cost lives so that most Americans can stay home in their little bubble and not give a damn. progressive leaders look only to make the military smaller and weaker. They will keep doing this until a day comes we're not prepared for an attack and one will come. Which that would be something, might take something like a war on USA soil to stop retarded arguments between the parties. As for the race I don't think any of them are great choices. Livable wage, this will do nothing for no one. 15 bucks a hour to work at Mc D's is retarded, prices on every thing will shot up until that 15 dollars a hour does as little for you as what rate it is now. Low level entry jobs that don't pay much are not meant to be long term full time jobs for adults making a living for a family. I do agree a spot light needs to be put on corporate greed. RLTW!!!

Corporate greed would be the only reason prices would rise as a result of the implementation of a living wage.

So, people who have never served have no voice? Please.....
 
Oppressive ideologies create enemies. Which is why we need such a big military. Keep intervening in worldly affairs furthering the problem. Creating the problem. i.e. ISIS. You've been sold the notion that we need to fight wars to be "free" here at home. What a sham. We are slaves to this war. Sure people die in war, that goes without saying. And the people who go are brave enough to put their lives on the line, not me. But the idea that we need this to be free is the only way they'll get the martyrs to do it.

So next time a radical Islamist slams a plane into a building you propose we apologize to them for oppressing them into their idiotic ideology? Stop being politically correct and tolerating radical Islam. The military goes after bad guys it's what we do. You attack America or think about attacking America and the might of the US military will kick your door in in the middle of the night and take you out. I am proud to have done my two tours in Iraq. I did it gladly for the American people and if the time comes I will don my battle gear and do it all again for the American people. I love my country and what it stands for and yes in order to maintain our freedom we have to take out those who not feel we should be able to keep our freedom. So when you are at sleep at night in your bed and some soldier, sailor, or marine is kicking a door in remember he is there for you so that person doesn't come to us first.
 
So next time a radical Islamist slams a plane into a building you propose we apologize to them for oppressing them into their idiotic ideology? Stop being politically correct and tolerating radical Islam. The military goes after bad guys it's what we do. You attack America or think about attacking America and the might of the US military will kick your door in in the middle of the night and take you out. I am proud to have done my two tours in Iraq. I did it gladly for the American people and if the time comes I will don my battle gear and do it all again for the American people. I love my country and what it stands for and yes in order to maintain our freedom we have to take out those who not feel we should be able to keep our freedom. So when you are at sleep at night in your bed and some soldier, sailor, or marine is kicking a door in remember he is there for you so that person doesn't come to us first.

Bro I'm about the most Islam hating Lib you'll ever meet. So don't cast your blanket over me dude.

Again, you missed the point.

Why do they want to do this to us???!!!!
 
So next time a radical Islamist slams a plane into a building you propose we apologize to them for oppressing them into their idiotic ideology? Stop being politically correct and tolerating radical Islam. The military goes after bad guys it's what we do. You attack America or think about attacking America and the might of the US military will kick your door in in the middle of the night and take you out. I am proud to have done my two tours in Iraq. I did it gladly for the American people and if the time comes I will don my battle gear and do it all again for the American people. I love my country and what it stands for and yes in order to maintain our freedom we have to take out those who not feel we should be able to keep our freedom. So when you are at sleep at night in your bed and some soldier, sailor, or marine is kicking a door in remember he is there for you so that person doesn't come to us first.

ax1 - you're needed here ;) gotta fill him in on what really happened
 
Bro I'm about the most Islam hating Lib you'll ever meet. So don't cast your blanket over me dude.

Again, you missed the point.

Why do they want to do this to us???!!!!

It's not Islam where you should be focusing your hate though, it's extremists.

I know many amazing Muslim people, I have Muslim friends. I know many amazing Christians, myself included. But extremists from any religion all need to disappear.
 
Bro I'm about the most Islam hating Lib you'll ever meet. So don't cast your blanket over me dude.

Again, you missed the point.

Why do they want to do this to us???!!!!

Not casting a blanket on you just responding to your statement that military action isn't keeping our freedom. I respect you for actually standing against Islam.
 
ax1 - you're needed here ;) gotta fill him in on what really happened

What did happen that I didn't see in two tours there other than countless Muslims trying to kill me and my brothers? Please educate me on something you must have caught on CNN that I missed from actually being there.
 
Not casting a blanket on you just responding to your statement that military action isn't keeping our freedom. I respect you for actually standing against Islam.

Standing against a whole religion because of the actions of a few? The f&*k is wrong with you mate.
Should we be anti-Christian because of the actions of homegrown Christian terrorists/extremists here in the US too? Use your brain for a minute and think about it.
 
What did happen that I didn't see in two tours there other than countless Muslims trying to kill me and my brothers? Please educate me on something you must have caught on CNN that I missed from actually being there.

ax1 has a huge thread about how it was an inside job. I personally don't believe that it was, but he has very strong feelings about this topic!
 
It's not Islam where you should be focusing your hate though, it's extremists.

I know many amazing Muslim people, I have Muslim friends. I know many amazing Christians, myself included. But extremists from any religion all need to disappear.

The religion itself fundamentally breeds extremists. Therefore it is a threat and a danger to this planet. Plenty of "non extreme" Muslims doing shiitty things.

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So I guess this wouldn't be considered "extreme" in the mainstream's eyes because why? Because there is no bomb involved. It's a crock of crap on humanity and human rights. Especially women. There are exceptions to every rule, but fundamentally it is dangerous.
 
ax1 - you're needed here ;) gotta fill him in on what really happened

Hahaha.....hopefully Trump will come out and release those 28 pages so America will know the financiers of 9/11 have been our friends and oil trading buddiees and those we destroy had nothing to do with 9/11.
 
It's not Islam where you should be focusing your hate though, it's extremists.

I know many amazing Muslim people, I have Muslim friends. I know many amazing Christians, myself included. But extremists from any religion all need to disappear.

Religion just needs to disappear in general. It's all mindless fairy tales giving opportunity for misinterpretation and extremism. Humans have enough reasons to differ in opinion.

Are there good Muslims? Sure. Are there a **** ton of bad ones? Absolutely. There is enough bad ones that you can literally generalize the whole religion into a hateful one. It's an inhumane religion that even the peaceful ones put down women as next to animals. The symbol of the religion is a sword...where is the peace in that? And I firmly believe the only reason more Muslims don't go out and kill and harm innocent people is fear of incarceration or death. Otherwise they would all turn on you.

You ever been to the Middle East? You haven't lived till you have seen a guy with goats in the front seat of his truck and his wives riding in the back. You haven't lived until you have almost been killed by a kid before. You haven't lived until you have encountered a machine gun nest at a school full of children. Girls getting married at the first drop of blood often times being first cousins. If you honestly believe it is peaceful than you are blind and brainwashed.
 
The religion itself fundamentally breeds extremists. Therefore it is a threat and a danger to this planet. Plenty of "non extreme" Muslims doing shiitty things.

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So I guess this wouldn't be considered "extreme" in the mainstream's eyes because why? Because there is no bomb involved. It's a crock of crap on humanity and human rights. Especially women. There are exceptions to every rule, but fundamentally it is dangerous.

Wars over nothing breed extremists as well. "Hey bro...I heard those Americans murdered your 11 year old daughter by one of Obama's Drones of Compassion and Bombs of Love n' Freedom just because there was a suspected terrorist somewhere near by. How about you sign up with us and we will get them back and allah will do us right!"
 
Religion just needs to disappear in general. It's all mindless fairy tales giving opportunity for misinterpretation and extremism. Humans have enough reasons to differ in opinion.

Are there good Muslims? Sure. Are there a **** ton of bad ones? Absolutely. There is enough bad ones that you can literally generalize the whole religion into a hateful one. It's an inhumane religion that even the peaceful ones put down women as next to animals. The symbol of the religion is a sword...where is the peace in that? And I firmly believe the only reason more Muslims don't go out and kill and harm innocent people is fear of incarceration or death. Otherwise they would all turn on you.

You ever been to the Middle East? You haven't lived till you have seen a guy with goats in the front seat of his truck and his wives riding in the back. You haven't lived until you have almost been killed by a kid before. You haven't lived until you have encountered a machine gun nest at a school full of children. Girls getting married at the first drop of blood often times being first cousins. If you honestly believe it is peaceful than you are blind and brainwashed.

And looky here...we agree
 
Wars over nothing breed extremists as well. "Hey bro...I heard those Americans murdered your 11 year old daughter by one of Obama's Drones of Compassion and Bombs of Love n' Freedom just because there was a suspected terrorist somewhere near by. How about you sign up with us and we will get them back and allah will do us right!"

No brother, I say we get the fuk out and leave them alone. Evolve without them.
 
Religion just needs to disappear in general. It's all mindless fairy tales giving opportunity for misinterpretation and extremism. Humans have enough reasons to differ in opinion.

Are there good Muslims? Sure. Are there a **** ton of bad ones? Absolutely. There is enough bad ones that you can literally generalize the whole religion into a hateful one. It's an inhumane religion that even the peaceful ones put down women as next to animals. The symbol of the religion is a sword...where is the peace in that? And I firmly believe the only reason more Muslims don't go out and kill and harm innocent people is fear of incarceration or death. Otherwise they would all turn on you.

You ever been to the Middle East? You haven't lived till you have seen a guy with goats in the front seat of his truck and his wives riding in the back. You haven't lived until you have almost been killed by a kid before. You haven't lived until you have encountered a machine gun nest at a school full of children. Girls getting married at the first drop of blood often times being first cousins. If you honestly believe it is peaceful than you are blind and brainwashed.

Atheism needs in general needs to disappear too.

There is also alot of bad athiests as well. Two of the worlds greatest murders are Mao Tse Tung and Stalin and they were both athiests. I think we need to rid of athiests as well. Are there good athiests? Absolutely, but there are enough bad athiests that you can literally generalize the whole thought process as a hateful one.
 
Standing against a whole religion because of the actions of a few? The f&*k is wrong with you mate.
Should we be anti-Christian because of the actions of homegrown Christian terrorists/extremists here in the US too? Use your brain for a minute and think about it.

Short answer, Yes
 
No brother, I say we get the fuk out and leave them alone. Evolve without them.

Word....and thats why none of these candidates will ever get my vote. All war mongering murders.

How the hell do you declare a war on a tactic? lol Thats what Ron Paul always used to say.
 
Atheism needs in general needs to disappear too.

There is also alot of bad athiests as well. Two of the worlds greatest murders are Mao Tse Tung and Stalin and they were both athiests. I think we need to rid of athiests as well. Are there good athiests? Absolutely, but there are enough bad athiests that you can literally generalize the whole thought process as a hateful one.

This is a silly statement.
 
We would probably agree on a lot. I am a firm believer in equal rights. I am not, however, in belief that one group should matter any more than another. I believe gays should have equal rights but again not anymore than others. I believe in a strong military. I do not believe in socialism. I do not believe in being politically correct especially on topics related to Islam. I believe in patriotism and love our military.
 
What did happen that I didn't see in two tours there other than countless Muslims trying to kill me and my brothers? Please educate me on something you must have caught on CNN that I missed from actually being there.

There were 3 towers....one didnt get hit by anything, was made out of steel and well constructed to house the CIA and FBI and it collapsed into free fall speed into oblivion. How did Osama Omama pull that one off? lol
 
every 4 years the office of president is up for grabs. the American people have primary elections to determine who the candidate for each of the 2 parties will be. once the 2 candidates for each party are voted on then there is a general election in which the American people casts votes for their candidate. after the election either the sitting president continues for 4 more years[with a limit of 2 terms[8years]...if a new president is elected there is a peaceful turnover of the office of president and a new president steps in for 4 years and then the process is repeated.

this is how the American system has worked [to the best of my knowledge] since after George Washington was nominated to be the 1st president.

I have not always agreed with the American people's choices for candidates or who the voters have elected, but none the less I have accepted them as the voters choice to be president.

this method of peacefully turning over power is what the American government is supposedly representing across the globe-peaceful elections.
 
Atheism needs in general needs to disappear too.

There is also alot of bad athiests as well. Two of the worlds greatest murders are Mao Tse Tung and Stalin and they were both athiests. I think we need to rid of athiests as well. Are there good athiests? Absolutely, but there are enough bad athiests that you can literally generalize the whole thought process as a hateful one.

You can pick any religion in the world or lack of religion for that matter and find a tyrant. This is nothing new. But I guarantee you find a lot more tyrants that are religious than those that are not.
 
This is a silly statement.

I know...I was just trying to make a point.

I only believe in fair due process and not attacking any race, group or religion, philosophy as a whole no matter what their ideology/beliefs are. Commit a crime, that single person needs to face his charges.
 
I have no problem with atheists. Some of my best friends are atheists. But I have a problem with blanket statements that generalize a whole group of people. This is dangerous rhetoric. People are free to practice their religion/beliefs in a peaceful way. Punish the extremist a$$holes, but not the whole group. This belief is essentially like carpet bombing a city/neighborhood to get a few people.
 
You can pick any religion in the world or lack of religion for that matter and find a tyrant. This is nothing new. But I guarantee you find a lot more tyrants that are religious than those that are not.

No, look at communist China and their atheistic past. Ill tell you, at that time there were a hell of alot more tyrants than all the religious combined for example.
 
I have no problem with atheists. Some of my best friends are atheists. But I have a problem with blanket statements that generalize a whole group of people. This is dangerous rhetoric. People are free to practice their religion/beliefs in a peaceful way. Punish the extremist a$$holes, but not the whole group. This belief is essentially like carpet bombing a city/neighborhood to get a few people.

Awesome post my man!
 
I know...I was just trying to make a point.

I only believe in fair due process and not attacking any race, group or religion, philosophy as a whole no matter what their ideology/beliefs are. Commit a crime, that single person needs to face his charges.

100% agree with you here
 
I have no problem with atheists. Some of my best friends are atheists. But I have a problem with blanket statements that generalize a whole group of people. This is dangerous rhetoric. People are free to practice their religion/beliefs in a peaceful way. Punish the extremist a$$holes, but not the whole group. This belief is essentially like carpet bombing a city/neighborhood to get a few people.

but you have been generalizing with a blanket statement the whole group of people voting for trump, haven't you?
 
but you have been generalizing with a blanket statement the whole group of people voting for trump, haven't you?

Mostly trolling in this thread in general, with occasional seriousness like today's posts :)

I honestly feel like half of Trump's supporters are as a$$ backwards as I've been posting about, and the other half are just very angry at our system, and so they connect with him on that anger. But it is misdirected anger.
 
Mostly trolling in this thread in general, with occasional seriousness like today's posts :)

I honestly feel like half of Trump's supporters are as a$$ backwards as I've been posting about, and the other half are just very angry at our system, and so they connect with him on that anger. But it is misdirected anger.

If there is one thing that really bothers me about Trump supporters is something that I experienced back in 08 when Obama went to take power. I was sucked into a hypnotic trance worshipping a cult personality and it thwarted my critical thinking. I was fooled. Anyways nothing wrong with supporting the dude, but there are alot of Trump supporters acting like Obama supporters did back in 08 and its a little worrisome.
 
Mostly trolling in this thread in general, with occasional seriousness like today's posts :)

I honestly feel like half of Trump's supporters are as a$$ backwards as I've been posting about, and the other half are just very angry at our system, and so they connect with him on that anger. But it is misdirected anger.

Until we revolt against the media, it will only get worse. They are the enemy. Left and Right alike. But they of course are simply a tool of the system to get exactly what they want, distraction and division. Works so well.
 
Mostly trolling in this thread in general, with occasional seriousness like today's posts :)

I honestly feel like half of Trump's supporters are as a$$ backwards as I've been posting about, and the other half are just very angry at our system, and so they connect with him on that anger. But it is misdirected anger.
do you agree it is their right to vote for whomever they please, for whatever reason they choose?
 
Until we revolt against the media, it will only get worse. They are the enemy. Left and Right alike. But they of course are simply a tool of the system to get exactly what they want, distraction and division. Works so well.

I agree with what you are saying...but we have to tread lightly here-the media is owned by corporate America and many believe the government is controlled by corporate America...

I wonder...does it ever occur to any of the anti-trump people that the reason why trump is so popular is because he is self funding his campaign and not accepting corporate funding? this is what I find appealing about trump!!!
 
I agree with what you are saying...but we have to tread lightly here-the media is owned by corporate America and many believe the government is controlled by corporate America...

I wonder...does it ever occur to any of the anti-trump people that the reason why trump is so popular is because he is self funding his campaign and not accepting corporate funding? this is what I find appealing about trump!!!

Same could be said about Bernie Sanders
 
Same could be said about Bernie Sanders

exactly...and both the dems and repubs establishment people are doing everything they can to insure that Bernie and trump are not the nominees...fascinating, huh!!!
 
do you agree it is their right to vote for whomever they please, for whatever reason they choose?

Yes, for sure. We're in a democracy. But it's a bit scary this year. Moreso than any other year I can think of. I'd rather have Bush back in power instead of Trump.
 
Yes, for sure. We're in a democracy. But it's a bit scary this year. Moreso than any other year I can think of. I'd rather have Bush back in power instead of Trump.

lol...I would have rather had mitt romney than Obama!!!
 
Bro I'm about the most Islam hating Lib you'll ever meet. So don't cast your blanket over me dude.

Again, you missed the point.

Why do they want to do this to us???!!!!

Because the prophet Muhammed teaches in the Hadith to kill all non believers and establish a caliphate by conquering the world.
 
Atheism needs in general needs to disappear too.

There is also alot of bad athiests as well. Two of the worlds greatest murders are Mao Tse Tung and Stalin and they were both athiests. I think we need to rid of athiests as well. Are there good athiests? Absolutely, but there are enough bad athiests that you can literally generalize the whole thought process as a hateful one.

No, look at communist China and their atheistic past. Ill tell you, at that time there were a hell of alot more tyrants than all the religious combined for example.

Meh. When a dictator like Mao or Stalin killed people, he didn't do it in the name of atheism, he did it because he could.
When a christian leader bombs the middle east, does he do it because of his faith?

What it boils down to is, no matter what religion anyone has, you still can be an azzhole.
Former "militant atheist" here, now only atheist, I got wiser.
 
Because the prophet Muhammed teaches in the Hadith to kill all non believers and establish a caliphate by conquering the world.

And the Holy Bible teaches to murder (stone) people for stealing bread. The F&**K is your point. Grown a brain :)

The most holy men know that these books were written for interpretation, and were written in the words of their time, with events of their time.

The Muslims I know do not want to take over the world. You're f^&*king ignorant man. There's no place for fundamentalists in this world.
 
And the Holy Bible teaches to murder (stone) people for stealing bread. The F&**K is your point. Grown a brain :)

The most holy men know that these books were written for interpretation, and were written in the words of their time, with events of their time.

The Muslims I know do not want to take over the world. You're f^&*king ignorant man. There's no place for fundamentalists in this world.

when was the last time you saw Christians stoning someone?

on the other hand there are more than a few videos going around of muslims beheading detractors.

I am not saying all muslims are bad...I just find it odd that you seem so eager to condemn christians while always defending muslims, this seems to be a pattern you have established-particularly odd since you are a self described Christian, lol.
 
I have no problem with atheists. Some of my best friends are atheists. But I have a problem with blanket statements that generalize a whole group of people. This is dangerous rhetoric. People are free to practice their religion/beliefs in a peaceful way. Punish the extremist a$$holes, but not the whole group. This belief is essentially like carpet bombing a city/neighborhood to get a few people.

Then why do you make blanket statements about Trumps supporters being racist kkk members?
 
Because the prophet Muhammed teaches in the Hadith to kill all non believers and establish a caliphate by conquering the world.
SMH-

so now you know and arent misguided-

The verse does not say infidels it says idolaters. (9:5) And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

This verse, chapter 9 verse 5, is often used as evidence that Islam allows killing of non-Muslims, but what is not recognized is the context and history behind these verses. The history of this verse is that when Prophet Muhammadsa began preaching the unity of God he was persecuted for 13 years, much as Prophets Abraham and Jesus were. Since Muslims who are being persecuted are encouraged to leave for safer areas, rather than create disorder, Muhammadsa and his followers migrated to Medina. After they left, the Meccans attacked them in Medina on and off for a period of nine years until Chapter 9 was revealed.

Looking at the context of the verses, it becomes obvious that the commandment of this verse only relates to those tribes who continued hostilities against the Muslims even after they had migrated. In particular, reference is made to 5 tribes (‘Banu Khuza’ah, Banu Mudlij, Banu Bakr, Banu Damrah, and Banu Sulaiim) that did not honor the treaties they made with Muslims. It is also important to remember that the preceding verses give these people respite for 4 months to reconsider their behavior and cease hostilities. Sadly after 4 months passed, the enemies of Islam continued their hostilities against the Muslims. Only then was Prophet Muhammadsa commanded by God to meet them in battle to defend Muslims and the religion of Islam.
 
And the Holy Bible teaches to murder (stone) people for stealing bread. The F&**K is your point. Grown a brain :)

The most holy men know that these books were written for interpretation, and were written in the words of their time, with events of their time.

The Muslims I know do not want to take over the world. You're f^&*king ignorant man. There's no place for fundamentalists in this world.

Christians don't preach to stone someone for stealing in today's world though, Muslim imams do. That's the difference. Learn some grammer.
Grown a brain
 
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