alphamine clone?

ManuR

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Hi guys,

does any1 know the product "viper xtreme alphalean"?
it is a exact clone of pes alphamine

is it legit?

Thanks!
 
ManuR said:
Hi guys,

does any1 know the product "viper xtreme alphalean"?
it is a exact clone of pes alphamine

is it legit?

Thanks!
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It has pretty much the same ingredients, but never heard of the brand... why wouldnt you just stick to the tried and truth alphamine. KING OF THERMOGENIC POWDERS!
 
Sparta12 said:
It has pretty much the same ingredients, but never heard of the brand... why wouldnt you just stick to the tried and truth alphamine. KING OF THERMOGENIC POWDERS!
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because this is 30% cheaper (at least for us europeans)..
right now, im planning my diet from march-june, and i cant afford to pay 200€+ for alphamine alone.. :(
(i really love alphamine, it is great, but i dotn have the money..)
 
ManuR said:
because this is 30% cheaper (at least for us europeans)..
right now, im planning my diet from march-june, and i cant afford to pay 200€+ for alphamine alone.. :(
(i really love alphamine, it is great, but i dotn have the money..)
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Go for it and let us know :p
 
Wow, talk about a complete knockoff - from the name, label color and ingredients. Id be out for blood of I were PES haha
 
ManuR said:
they also copied VPX products (Meltdown and Meltdown v2)
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This my friends is what you call a talentless company
 
Jiigzz said:
This my friends is what you call a talentless company
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i know, its a poor move..
the problem is, it is hard for us europeans to get the Us version of alphamine and if you can
get it, the price is abormal high.
and the intl version is not good imo..
 
ManuR said:
i know, its a poor move..
the problem is, it is hard for us europeans to get the Us version of alphamine and if you can
get it, the price is abormal high.
and the intl version is not good imo..
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I get that, such is the nature of the supp industry.
 
Personally just for the fact that they copied products I would stick with alphamine even if you have to pay alittle more. I love alphamine, norcodrene and shift by pes.
 
ManuR, which country are you in? :)
 
Ameyer9 said:
I wouldn't even trust a company like that to meet label claims.
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Honestly this would be a big concern for me as well. Just because they copied everything superficially doesn't mean that what they put in there is even the same. ;)
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Bingo. The saying "you get what you pay for" is often quite true.
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people also say that generic drugs are just as good as name brands....I don't believe this, but sometimes settle for generic because of cost!!!

PES should be used to being copied by now, this for sure isn't the 1st time....but PES still has a faithful following, this speaks volumes!!!
 
thebigt said:
people also say that generic drugs are just as good as name brands....I don't believe this, but sometimes settle for generic because of cost!!!

PES should be used to being copied by now, this for sure isn't the 1st time....but PES still has a faithful following, this speaks volumes!!!
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Completely agree with the analogy to generic drugs and I understand that people do what they have to. I've done it myself. You just can't expect the same and need to ask why/how a product is cheaper.
 
thebigt said:
people also say that generic drugs are just as good as name brands....I don't believe this, but sometimes settle for generic because of cost!!!

PES should be used to being copied by now, this for sure isn't the 1st time....but PES still has a faithful following, this speaks volumes!!!
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Shouldn't be a concern with generic drugs. The company who owns the "patent" gets it for a period of time and then you are allowed to make generic copies of the drug at a cheaper rate.

It's done to allow the company who put the significant money into research for the drug to get approved to turn a profit off of it before other companies can make generic versions of it.

Just food for thought.
 
guys im also a fan from alphamine.
but the INTL version is not good (and i dont need ppl tell me it is, because it isnt)
i love the taste of alphamine and i also like its effects
 
Daycrawler said:
Shouldn't be a concern with generic drugs. The company who owns the "patent" gets it for a period of time and then you are allowed to make generic copies of the drug at a cheaper rate.

It's done to allow the company who put the significant money into research for the drug to get approved to turn a profit off of it before other companies can make generic versions of it.

Just food for thought.
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lol...that is not relevant to the point I was attempting to make!!!!!
 
thats funny
viper xtreme alphalean even has the similar label haha

People may read it and go OH that was what i used, not alphamine as its just an energy drink ,doh, must have been alphalean silly me
 
Toff said:
thats funny
viper xtreme alphalean even has the similar label haha

People may read it and go OH that was what i used, not alphamine as its just an energy drink ,doh, must have been alphalean silly me
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It's clearly infringement on our IP and will not be allowed.
 
Synapsin said:
It's clearly infringement on our IP and will not be allowed.
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i say yall go ahead and allow it, since yall can't stick to the rule that have been going on since the beginning of time ( im guessing ) if it ain't broken why the hell change/fix it.
but mind you completely have a different product.
so yeah I say go ahead and let folks enjoy it.
 
hamdysayed said:
i say yall go ahead and allow it, since yall can't stick to the rule that have been going on since the beginning of time ( im guessing ) if it ain't broken why the hell change/fix it.
but mind you completely have a different product.
so yeah I say go ahead and let folks enjoy it.
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You have to actively protect your IP or you lose the rights to it.
 
Daycrawler said:
You have to actively protect your IP or you lose the rights to it.
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yeah I see , but if u gave up the product to begin with why would u care about it ?unless they just want royalties to the formula ?
I never used alphamine but I recommended to few friends based on formula and reviews, I just think if pes don't want to sell it let the ppl still enjoy it.
 
hamdysayed said:
i say yall go ahead and allow it, since yall can't stick to the rule that have been going on since the beginning of time ( im guessing ) if it ain't broken why the hell change/fix it.
but mind you completely have a different product.
so yeah I say go ahead and let folks enjoy it.
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This was probably myspaces motto as well.

Those that fail to adapt, fail to last
 
Jiigzz said:
This was probably myspaces motto as well.

Those that fail to adapt, fail to last
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nah my space just sucked a$$, plus you enhance a franchise you don't completely change it, like making mcdonalds sell tacos instead of burgers.
anyways
 
hamdysayed said:
i say yall go ahead and allow it, since yall can't stick to the rule that have been going on since the beginning of time ( im guessing ) if it ain't broken why the hell change/fix it.
but mind you completely have a different product.
so yeah I say go ahead and let folks enjoy it.
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The only thing they could possibly enforce, would be stuff like names, label art, etc... There's no "IP" for a bunch of raw ingredients that anyone can buy and combine in a jug - every pre-workout seller would be suing each other... especially a PROP BLEND LOL :D So, while your EU product may disappear because they were dumb enough to look and sound the same - I'm sure someone else will throw the same powders into a jug.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
The only thing they could possibly enforce, would be stuff like names, label art, etc... There's no "IP" for a bunch of raw ingredients that anyone can buy and combine in a jug - every pre-workout seller would be suing each other... especially a PROP BLEND LOL :D So, while your EU product may disappear because they were dumb enough to look and sound the same - I'm sure someone else will throw the same powders into a jug.
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Sounds like a very conservative view - May the best man win (they dont even make it anymore so ones mans junk...)

Welcome to Brexit
 
coffee does nothing but send me to sleep! literally get the opposite effect

Must be the warming sensation but after my morning coffee its downhill from there.

On the flip side, concentrated caffeine in drink or pill form and im in the room
 
Toff said:
coffee does nothing but send me to sleep! literally get the opposite effect

Must be the warming sensation but after my morning coffee its downhill from there.

On the flip side, concentrated caffeine in drink or pill form and im in the room
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Caffeine pills then bro. Spending more than .50$ on a caffeinated supp is absurd to me. Alphamine is great, but so is caffeine and yhcl or ephedrine
 
did people get bent out of shape when hi tech remade jack3d or oep? if a company isn't making it anymore or if they are using a prop blend then who cares, just hope they improve on those flavors
 
Young Gotti said:
did people get bent out of shape when hi tech remade jack3d or oep? if a company isn't making it anymore or if they are using a prop blend then who cares, just hope they improve on those flavors
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From a customer standpoint I feel you, but as a creator I completely understand why people don't want their innovation being mimicked. It's not right.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
From a customer standpoint I feel you, but as a creator I completely understand why people don't want their innovation being mimicked. It's not right.
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yeah but it's 2016....everything gets mimicked in one form or another

but also if apple doesn't want to use syri anymore because they invented something they feel is new or improved....why would they care if droid is using their left over technology
 
Young Gotti said:
did people get bent out of shape when hi tech remade jack3d or oep? if a company isn't making it anymore or if they are using a prop blend then who cares, just hope they improve on those flavors
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It doesn't even need to be a prop blend. Some stuff you just can't have exclusive rights to. Think of all the frozen pizza that is just dough, sauce, cheese and pepperoni - oh no! law suits! :D
 
Jiigzz said:
This was probably myspaces motto as well.

Those that fail to adapt, fail to last
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I'm a big fan of the phrase, adapt, migrate or die. Those are your only options in life.
 
To be fair, this company made an obvious attempt at a complete clone, (graphics and all), and did so wayyy before PES reformulated Alphamine (RIP)....so it's not quite the same thing as Hi-Tech re-introducing old formulas in completely different packaging months/years after they've been discontinued.

I dunno. Just rubs me the wrong way.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
It doesn't even need to be a prop blend. Some stuff you just can't have exclusive rights to. Think of all the frozen pizza that is just dough, sauce, cheese and pepperoni - oh no! law suits! :D
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See what happens when you google for it:

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In your scenario, someone couldn't open "Papa Hons" and advertise "Exact pizza as Papa Johns".
 
Does it matter chaps?

Just buy it, end of, if PES were bothered they'd still make it. no lost earning other than company direction.
 
Daycrawler said:
See what happens when you google for it:

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In your scenario, someone couldn't open "Papa Hons" and advertise "Exact pizza as Papa Johns".
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I never said anything about names, logos, etc... 'Monster Cable' used to sue stadium owners and job seeking companies - I get it. I was specifically talking about how a bunch of powders in a jug can't be protected.
 
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